Any chance Garrett gets fired? Who would you hire?

[Dale]

Originally Posted by Chocolate Lab

DC and Dale -- Agree, I'm not sure about Gruden. At first glance I have the same feeling that he's more about the Chuckie persona than a great coach. Then I remember that he won a Superbowl with Brad Johnson and was a Tuck Rule away from beating the first SB Patriot team with Rich Gannon... And that while working for a bigger loon than Jerry. He didn't seem that good at Tampa after the SB, but then he had total garbage at QB, too. (Bruce Gradkowski, really?)

The interesting thing is that Galloway claimed the day after that Peter King mention in MMQB that King has better access to Jerry than any journalist in the country -- even any the local guys -- and for a name previously unassociated with Jerry to come out of the blue like that might really mean something.

[View Full Quote]I still like Holmgren because he's very good friends with Jerry and supposedly wants the job. I remember the pregame show when Jerry was asked about the report that Holmgren wanted to be here, and Jerry said Mike was very complimentary of the talent here and thought it was plenty good enough to win with. Holmgren got Matt Hasselbeck to a SB and should have won it if not for the crookedest officiating I've ever seen. Matt Hasselbeck!

Interesting stuff on Peter King's take on Gruden. Tomorrow will be interesting to say the least, be it for watching whether Garrett gets axed to monitoring any of the potential replacement candidates that might be mentioned in the event he does get fired.

Honestly, I wouldn't complain with either over Garrett at this point. I'd settle merely for a coach familiar with the big stage who previously has shown competent leading an organization.

I like Garrett as a person and love his back story, what with him having been a Cowboy and all. But it's just not a good fit, and we're wasting away while we try to wait it out.

[Dale]

Originally Posted by rocyaice

I see what you're saying but are you sitting here thinking we underachieved? Because I honestly feel this coaching staff got the best of these players. IMO, we were a 6-10 team that had a chance to win 9 games and win this division. Sometimes the better team wins. Deadskins were at home and they were a better team than us at this point. There's no shame at losing to the hottest team in football.

While I agree that Garrett isn't perfect by any means, i've seen enough progress from him and this team to warrant another year. I'd rather see him than Gruden or Andy Reid at this point.

You certainly make a valid point. It's funny because I think my stock prediction at the start of the season was 8-8, and that was before the rash of injuries. By that standard, I certainly don't have much to complain about.

I think my issue lies not so much within how these past two seasons ended, but in the fact that I see deficiencies in his coaching style that lead me to believe he isn't the right man even with the right roster. Winning today would have put a bandaid on the situation, but even then those same deficiencies would have remained and likely reared their ugly head in the future.

[UncFelix28]

News of Jason Garrett being fired tomorrow would make this week a little easier, and at least show me that even Jerry saw the light that his HC in waiting behind Wade was a bad idea... I think Jason Garrett is a very good man & knows how to command a room & keeps his players playing hard all 4 quarters, but he just isn't a great x's & o's guy & isn't very creative

[Gemini Dolly]

Jerry has to ask himself. Is Garrett a better coach than Romo is Qb?

Either fire Garrett or move on from Romo. Because together, they are a match made of misery.

Unfortuately, I dont think Jerry does anything drastic. They will BOTH be back together next season.

But maybe the year after that??

[rocyaice]

Originally Posted by Dale

You certainly make a valid point. It's funny because I think my stock prediction at the start of the season was 8-8, and that was before the rash of injuries. By that standard, I certainly don't have much to complain about.

I think my issue lies not so much within how these past two seasons ended, but in the fact that I see deficiencies in his coaching style that lead me to believe he isn't the right man even with the right roster. Winning today would have put a bandaid on the situation, but even then those same deficiencies would have remained and likely reared their ugly head in the future.

I agree with you. You surely have a right to feel the way you do.

I think first thing this organization should do when evaluating the talent and coaching staff on this team they should ask themselves a few things. In regards to coaching, do you feel (insert coach here) underachieved? Or do you feel they coached up their players? In regards to players, do you feel (insert player here) performed to his capabilities? If you can't say yes then you really need to look at replacing that player or coach. I just can't say that about Garrett or Rob Ryan at this point.

[rocyaice]

Originally Posted by Gemini Dolly

Jerry has to ask himself. Is Garrett a better coach than Romo is Qb?

Either fire Garrett or move on from Romo. Because together, they are a match made of misery.

Unfortuately, I dont think Jerry does anything drastic. They will BOTH be back together next season.

But maybe the year after that??

You also have to be realistic as well. Do you feel Garrett is underachieving? Do you feel Romo is? If so, what other quarterbacks do you feel could've done what Romo did this year with this offensive line? Rodgers? I can't think of too many mobile guys who can throw against players coming in untouched from the guard and right tackle position.

[Leadbelly]

Originally Posted by Gameover

If Jerry feels that Garrett isn't "Romo friendly", he'll fire Jason in a heart beat!

Ask Chan Gailey?Jerry is all about the quarterback.And for better a worse he seems to be all in with Tony Romo(unless this game changed it).

If he does fire Jason, I hope we get a sweep of the entire coaching staff.

Take all the Garrett's away.

Jon Gruden is a good football coach.He won 11 games with Crissy Sims for god sake.And people act as if his time in TB was a waste.

Same with Shanny...He never won w/o Elway nosense...How many Lombardi's did Elway win w/o Rat?

The Cowboys would be LUCKY to have Jon Gruden!

One thing with Gruden:Gruden likes to churn the roster.The entire roster.Jerry likes to sit on players, forever.It would be interesting if Gruden would like to move on from say a Ware and Ratliff...Not sure if Jerry is ready for that.

The problem might be a HC who's too Romo-friendly and Romo kind of gets to do what Romo wants -- sling it around, audible out of runs, throw for a lot of yards, run the clock down to 0:01 and have pre-snap fits like Peyton Manning, etc.

I think it would help Romo most if the GM were more Romo-friendly. OL, OL, and OL. Maybe a 3rd WR who isn't an imbecile instead of picking from a pool of undrafted free agents.

I'll never put anything past Jerry though. I'm sure he's still ticked about being locked out of the locker room weeks ago. He'll be changing something this off-season...some how, some way.

[Sarge]

Originally Posted by Dale

I think my issue lies not so much within how these past two seasons ended, but in the fact that I see deficiencies in his coaching style that lead me to believe he isn't the right man even with the right roster. Winning today would have put a bandaid on the situation, but even then those same deficiencies would have remained and likely reared their ugly head in the future.

[sacase]

I wouldn't be suprised if we got Reid. He's a great offensive mind. I think Reid and Ryan would be a good combo and could be dangerous. Jerry's interview was VERY interesting. What he didn't say was as interesting as what he did. I think there are going to be some deep cuts this year. Maybe even a few suprises. I bet we get faster on D and a New coordinator/Head Coach.

[Beast_from_East]

Originally Posted by UncFelix28

I hope he is canned.. Guy has been here since 2007 & still has no clue how to adjust to defenses & fails time and time again to come out of the gate ready to play.

Well, Garrett's incompetence is getting to be so obvious that even traditional homers like AdamJT are calling him a COWARD in the other thread.


So I think it is safe to say that the natives are indeed restless and Jerry has to do something to give the fans some hope for next season.

[Beast_from_East]

Originally Posted by rocyaice

Why would you fire Garrett at this point after having his team play at a chance at the NFC East title after going 3-5?

Because back to back 8-8 seasons are not acceptable, this aint Tennessee.


Going 8-8 every year is not going to cut it. Besides, virtually everybody agrees that Garrett was totally outcoached tonight, you got AdamJT calling him a COWARD in the other thread for the way he called the game tonight and he is the smartest guy on this entire board.


I think other than Hostile, virtually nobody thinks Garrett is anything other than a .500 coach at this point. Now if you like going .500 every year, then keep him, but dont expect much support from the fan base.

[Beast_from_East]

Originally Posted by Dash28

I know it would never happen but what would be your thoughts on bringing in Bill Polian if Jerry stepped down after sleeping at a Holiday Inn?

Also, between the coaches mentioned above, who do you guys prefer if a move is made?

I think Holmgreen is the obvious choice at this point.

[ghst187]

Originally Posted by rocyaice

Why would you fire Garrett at this point after having his team play at a chance at the NFC East title after going 3-5?

because the team rarely looks ready to play, the game management is around the worst in the league, and the play calling and structure is terrible

[HoustonFrog]

Honestly I'd welcome the change and this us all teed up for Holmgren. He and Jerry are tight and already have a working relationship from the competition committee. He wants to coach, not GM and took 2 teams to SBs. There is no guarantee he is available next year. So that's my call.

My wish is that he talked to Cowher behind the scenes because he had no NFL contract and that there is a New Years miracle but its not happening as the guy is sitting pretty in the studio and wouldn't work for Jerry.

[HoustonFrog]

Originally Posted by rocyaice

Why would you fire Garrett at this point after having his team play at a chance at the NFC East title after going 3-5?

Because you're still 8-8 at the end of the day and started 3-5.