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Old 12-31-2012   #16
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I wish Romo could win a season defining game like that with 100 yards passing and a 50% completion percentage.
Yes, but Griffin didn't throw 3 picks ... 1 of them with the game on the line.
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Old 12-31-2012   #17
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I bet if you give Romo a 200 yard rusher with 3 TDs and over 250 rushing yards total he'd probably win too.

Romo might have one but we'll never know I'm afraid. JG seems bound and determined to run a down field passing attack no matter what, even when they are getting the snot blitzed out of them.

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Romo had "it" in 2006 and 2007. He was magical. But since then...he's lost it
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Old 12-31-2012   #19
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Yes, but Griffin didn't throw 3 picks ... 1 of them with the game on the line.
Agreed. Romo has to own that. All three seemed to come from bad throws or bad decisions. This team, particularly the patchwork defense, can't overcome those types of mistakes.

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Old 12-31-2012   #20
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Yep.

Shanahan went 10-6, 10-6, 13-3, and 9-7 with Jake Plummer at QB. Jake. Freaking. Plummer.

Says all you need to know about their coaching versus ours.
Shanahan's playoff record after Elway: 1-4. Fired after three consecutive mediocre seasons, exacerbated by some really awful draft and personel decisions. Including the decision to HAVE Jake Plummer at QB.

That said, this season he has done a tremendous job, especially considering Mara's salary cap crookedness. The Redskins had a willing horse, and they rode him another mile. And it was still a close run thing.
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Coulda, woulda, shoulda.

RG3 didn't have it last night at all, his passing performance was simply not good enough. However he didn't lose the game with any bonehead plays. On nights like last night where Alfred Morris was unstoppable that is all you need out of the QB.

Trust me, had you said RG3 would be 9 of 18 for 100 yards passing, I'd think we lose badly.

To me its a good thing though, QB has a subpar game and we still find a way to win. Shows me signs of a complete team being built, which is how you win in the NFL.
I am not even going to sit here and bash RG3 because he 'doesn't' play for cowboys. He is as dynamic of QB I have seen in very long time. Dallas needs to focus on being better in other areas. Not sure Murray is long term solution as Morris looked oddles better. I am even thinking Dallas might need to implement west coast variation and go with shorter throws to eat up clock and keep RG3 off field. I would expand Hannah playing time.
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"Romo just doesn't have it"

If "IT" is an offensive line that isn't a complete disaster, then yeah, he certainly doesn't.

I'd like to see any QB that ever played have success behind this mess.

Although I will admit that Romo was awful defending the run last night.

Unreal.
you forgot about having a HC that can effectively manage games and an OC that can prepare for incessant blitzing with shorter, quicker routes, and quick ball releases
Still left to accomplish:
sign OT Winston or G Moore
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Romo had "it" in 2006 and 2007. He was magical. But since then...he's lost it
Actually, his best year when considering TD to Int ratio was last year. 31 TDs to 10 interceptions. We still managed to go... 8-8.
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Yep.

Shanahan went 10-6, 10-6, 13-3, and 9-7 with Jake Plummer at QB. Jake. Freaking. Plummer.

Says all you need to know about their coaching versus ours.
That definitely puts it in perspective.
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Coulda, woulda, shoulda.

RG3 didn't have it last night at all, his passing performance was simply not good enough. However he didn't lose the game with any bonehead plays. On nights like last night where Alfred Morris was unstoppable that is all you need out of the QB.

Trust me, had you said RG3 would be 9 of 18 for 100 yards passing, I'd think we lose badly.

To me its a good thing though, QB has a subpar game and we still find a way to win. Shows me signs of a complete team being built, which is how you win in the NFL.
That does nothing to discredit my point on why this thread's premise is flawed.

Romo can't win like that because he doesn't have the supporting cast. Griffin can because he does.

So Griffin didn't remind us about anything concerning Romo. He was carried to the win by his teammates.

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I am not even going to sit here and bash RG3 because he 'doesn't' play for cowboys. He is as dynamic of QB I have seen in very long time. Dallas needs to focus on being better in other areas. Not sure Murray is long term solution as Morris looked oddles better. I am even thinking Dallas might need to implement west coast variation and go with shorter throws to eat up clock and keep RG3 off field. I would expand Hannah playing time.
Yes. I want to keep Griffin off the field more. Otherwise he's liable to throw for 125 yards on a 50% completion percentage.

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Coulda, woulda, shoulda.

RG3 didn't have it last night at all, his passing performance was simply not good enough. However he didn't lose the game with any bonehead plays. On nights like last night where Alfred Morris was unstoppable that is all you need out of the QB.

Trust me, had you said RG3 would be 9 of 18 for 100 yards passing, I'd think we lose badly.

To me its a good thing though, QB has a subpar game and we still find a way to win. Shows me signs of a complete team being built, which is how you win in the NFL.
I agree but I believe the point some were trying to make was missed. If the Cowboys defense played to the par the Skins defense played, RG3 would have most likely turned the ball over on one of his many off the mark throws. The difference between the two QBs? Romo has to be perfect to insure success for his team, RG3 has the luxury of putting up dreadful numbers and his team can still easily win football games. Its not a gripe, its reality and kudos to your coaching staff for structuring it that way. I do, however, get tired of the praise being heaped upon a man that did next to nothing to win the game last night aside from handing the ball to the RB and Morris not getting the credit of handling 90% of that gameplan.
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I have no issues with RGIII, I think he's a very well grounded kid. I just do not see this superstar QB that a lot of the press is seeing. Will be very interesting following his career, but next year coordinators will be ready...He better be at the top of his passing game, last night he sure was not.

Morris I am not that impressed with, to me he seems slow and really has to gear it down to make cuts. Maybe the Hogs have a better OL, I think Murray is the better back + he is most definitely better as a receiver...Murray just needs to stay healthy and run behing a better OL.
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I agree but I believe the point some were trying to make was missed. If the Cowboys defense played to the par the Skins defense played, RG3 would have most likely turned the ball over on one of his many off the mark throws. The difference between the two QBs? Romo has to be perfect to insure success for his team, RG3 has the luxury of putting up dreadful numbers and his team can still easily win football games. Its not a gripe, its reality and kudos to your coaching staff for structuring it that way. I do, however, get tired of the praise being heaped upon a man that did next to nothing to win the game last night aside from handing the ball to the RB and Morris not getting the credit of handling 90% of that gameplan.
It wasn't like the Cowboy DB's were dropping INT's. RG3 had 2 big drops by his WRs.

I would love if Griffin put up passing numbers like he did on Thanksgiving every week. That would be fantastic. Luckily though Mike Shanahan believes in building a complete team and its clear that the Redskins do not need a Thanksgiving performance out of RG3 every week to win.

I think Morris got lots of credit today, certainly in the DC area. Its exciting to me to win in the fashion we did last night, a good old fashion run the ball down your throats and try and stop us type way. 1980s football. Loved it
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That's complete BS. RG3 threw at least 2 passes that could have been picked. Just cuz our D is too incompetent to pick off a pass doesn't make RG3 great all of the sudden. He stunk the joint up. Romo did too, but the SKins D actually caught Romo's bad passes.
Romo actually had at least two more passes that could/should have been picked
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