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Old 01-04-2013   #31
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So they are looking at Holmgren and Carmichael?
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Old 01-04-2013   #32
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The one chink in Holmgren's armor has been his personnel work. He was a failure in Seattle as Head Coach/GM. Getting him involved in our personnel process doesn't really excite me.
I think "chink in the armor" understates it a bit. I cannot get behind the hiring of a personnel man who was responsible for picking Brandon Weeden last year.
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Old 01-04-2013   #33
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Wow.

So what aspect is actually left to Garrett?

Press conferences.

Might as well just come out and admit that Jerry has so much faith in Garrett that he's willing to actually hire people to teach him.
Right? This is very similar to what we saw with Campo before he was replaced.
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Old 01-04-2013   #34
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Old 01-04-2013   #35
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It doesnt matter what jerry does or is rumored to do. Some fans just want to find something to complain about.
Well if we didnt constantly lose then there wouldn't be anything to complain about.
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Old 01-04-2013   #36
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All I care is that we get someone who will help us avoid the Jenkins, Felix's, Spears, Carps, Bennett's and Jacob Rogers's of the draft.

I know our last three drafts have been better, and I know everyone misses on occasion, but I'd like us to hit on a 85-95% of our first/second round picks from here on out.
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Jeff Sullivan ‏@SullyBaldHead There are talks of not only bringing in an offensive coordinator, but a consultant, much in the way Dan Reeves was supposed to be in 2009.
If I were going to bring in a consultant to fix the offense, I would try to find a defensive coordinator that coached against Garrett. He would know all of Garrett's weaknesses.

You don’t know what you don’t know.

Half of the population has below average intelligence.
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....IS THAT LIKE THE FOOTBALL EQUIVALENT OF A TUTOR? ....THIS IS A FULL FLEDGED CLOWN SHOW........MUCH THANKS JERRAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!! [View Full Quote]

Hey Jason,

The offense you handcrafted over the last half dozen years sucks so we're bringing a team of experts in to fix it.

We want you to stick around to give inspirational pregame speeches, encourage playes on the practice field and say nothing during press conferences though.



Yup. That should work well.
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We wont get a 'real' OC. We will get one tht has been neutered.
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Maybe Garrett's ego is not as fragile as some here would like to think?

There is something called a "growth mindset" that welcomes challenge, fialure, and opportunities to learn from others in order to grow and develop your own skills beyond their current limits.

I know it sounds crazy, but IF this scenario were to play out, perhaps he wouldn't see it as totally emasculating him as some here seem to think.

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The one chink in Holmgren's armor has been his personnel work. He was a failure in Seattle as Head Coach/GM. Getting him involved in our personnel process doesn't really excite me.
I wonder your impression of Garrett if your standards are so high.

Holmgren has only like 3 losing seasons as a HC. And is one of like 5-6 guys who have HC'd two different Super Bowl participant Franchises.

He failed at President of Browns, but to be fair even Belichik sucked there...
All Process and No Progress.
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If I were going to bring in a consultant to fix the offense, I would try to find a defensive coordinator that coached against Garrett. He would know all of Garrett's weaknesses.
it'll be a LOOOONNNGGG meeting
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I think, knowing Jerry's ego, the "consultant" would be the defacto GM. He will tell Jerry how to run the show, Jerry will run the show that way, and then take the credit because after all, he is still GM.

And frankly, if the "consultant" is okay with that, I am all for it. Whatever it takes to get Jerry to stop playing Madden with our team.
I think something along the lines of Parcells in Miami, I read an article earlier maybe it was on here, but it said that JJ was real impressionable when it came to listening to other people, maybe now you have a filter when it comes to information that filters up to JJ, and you won't have so many people in his ear. I give JJ more credit than most on here, a person that is as successful as he is and as passionate does most everything with good intentions. I think he listens to those who he trusts, but as we all know everyone has different opinions, that is obvious from reading these boards.
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I wonder your impression of Garrett if your standards are so high.

Holmgren has only like 3 losing seasons as a HC. And is one of like 5-6 guys who have HC'd two different Super Bowl participant Franchises.

He failed at President of Browns, but to be fair even Belichik sucked there...
Did I say anything about Holmgren as a Head Coach? I think he's a great coach. I just don't think he's good at picking players.
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Hopefully Jerry doesn't ask the consultant to clock in.
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