Is Average in Big D the 'new normal'

[panther1012]

Originally Posted by Everlastingxxx

I think many fans have grown to have a defeatist attitude with regards to the Cowboys. They have accepted mediocrity and fear raising their expectations because they don’t want to get hurt anymore. It’s like a parent being content with their child making “Cs” on their report card and not expecting them to make “As”.

I agree with you. That is exactly what I'm talking about. Some of these fans just want folks like me to just shut up and quit complaining. They say, "accept the new normal and step dwelling on the excellence of the 90's that none of us have seen". I reserve the right to vent at our average performance year over year and at our gambler QB !!

[Idgit]

Originally Posted by panther1012

I agree with you. That is exactly what I'm talking about. Some of these fans just want folks like me to just shut up and quit complaining. They say, "accept the new normal and step dwelling on the excellence of the 90's that none of us have seen". I reserve the right to vent at our average performance year over year and at our gambler QB !!

There's a third option, you know: being unsatisfied with 8-8, and still *not* complaining about it a week after the season ended.

There's a world of things to talk about above and beyond how disappointed you are. And not all of them need to start with "Jerry's a moron, and Jason's an idiot."

[Idgit]

Originally Posted by Everlastingxxx

I think many fans have grown to have a defeatist attitude with regards to the Cowboys. They have accepted mediocrity and fear raising their expectations because they don’t want to get hurt anymore. It’s like a parent being content with their child making “Cs” on their report card and not expecting them to make “As”.

I challenge you to find a single fan who doesn't think this team needs to improve and who doesn't have a list of ways they can or should. You believe there are many, but I'd be impressed if you could find a single one. Don't give up on it, just see what you can do. Good luck!

[Doomsay]

There is no honor in supporting the failed management that has delivered a mediocre team for the better part of two decades just so that the owner can prove that "anybody can coach the Cowboys." That is weak beyond belief.

[Super_Kazuya]

In the Garrett/Romo era the Cowboys have played meaningful games in Week 17 I think every season except one. I would imagine that at least 15 teams can't say that. It's not the best results but at least every game has been meaningful and we have something to look forward to every week. Try being eliminated for all intents and purposes in Week 6 with basically meaningless games to watch every week like the really bad teams.

You're not entitled to a winning team just because your Great Grandpappy watched Staubach in the Super Bowls. As a matter of fact, you're not entitled to anything. Some of you act like you're stock holders in the Cowboys, when in reality you sit on the couch and contribute next to nothing to the Cowboys organization. But yet you won't "accept" mediocrity. Who cares what you will or won't accept?

I suppose if you are a season ticket holder for 30 years then you might be a LITTLE more vested but even then I'm pretty sure those tickets don't have anything guaranteeing victories on the back in small print. Go to the game to have a good time. If you don't have a good time and you still keep buying tickets, then go look in the mirror. There's an idiot staring back. Stop expecting things and go back and sit down on the couch. You're not entitled to anything.

[LatinMind]

Originally Posted by panther1012

I agree with you. That is exactly what I'm talking about. Some of these fans just want folks like me to just shut up and quit complaining. They say, "accept the new normal and step dwelling on the excellence of the 90's that none of us have seen". I reserve the right to vent at our average performance year over year and at our gambler QB !!

Its everybodys right to complain. But after seeing the same complaint post in every thread its just time to give it a break dont you think?

Thats borderline trolling

[M'Kevon]

Originally Posted by panther1012

I agree with you. That is exactly what I'm talking about. Some of these fans just want folks like me to just shut up and quit complaining. They say, "accept the new normal and step dwelling on the excellence of the 90's that none of us have seen". I reserve the right to vent at our average performance year over year and at our gambler QB !!

No, there is a difference between complaining with a legitimate argument, and whining.

[M'Kevon]

Originally Posted by Doomsay

There is no honor in supporting the failed management that has delivered a mediocre team for the better part of two decades just so that the owner can prove that "anybody can coach the Cowboys." That is weak beyond belief.

Really? You're using a quote from almost 20 years ago now?

Nothing better (or legitmate) than that. Shame.

[john van brocklin]

Originally Posted by panther1012

For the last few years I have often wondered how and why the Cowboy organization has seemed to just accept average performance. We have not made the playoffs in three years, or record since the late 90's is about .500 and we have a fan base that has resorted to defense of one guy or the other on these boards. What happened to this organization over the years? Folks, we have seen the 49's, Redskins and other teams rebound from below .500 records to make it back to the tournament. In other words, these teams have completed the rebuilding process and we , during this same period, seem to be stuck in neutral. I don't know about you but I'm not happy with this team since the 90's. I have sometimes hoped for a complete collapse of a season because it may be the only thing that humbles Jerry to his senses about moving to the backstage and getting a FULL-TIME GM in here.


[View Full Quote]As for Romo, it is now clear to any honest observer that he really struggles with big time moments and his decisions are really very similar to his idol, Bret Favre; who was a big time gambler and risk taker. However, Romo has not had the luck of Mr. Favre. In big moments, I'm always wondering when Romo is going to blow it. I have that feeling because of what he has done over the years. I don't want to and can't defend the reality of the situation with our QB; his history and reputation is of his own making. Only he can change it but until he does he will be judged as a guy who is an above average QB but struggles under pressure and if pressured will sometime take that risky bet that us fans have become all too familiar with.

I mean come on guys; we have not won anything since the mid 90's. If I was Jerry Jones, I would be frustrated too. I tell you one thing, Red will not survive another non-playoff appearance next year with his job intact. I love this team but I'm just tired over losing and not getting close to 'the show' anymore. Man, those 90's were an Awesome time; I should have enjoyed them more

Feel your pain, bro

[Reverend Conehead]

I think very few fans accept the mediocrity. Most of us scream about it on boards like this one and on radio talk shows, etc., but that's really all we can do since we're not the owner or GM or any kind of coach.

[Idgit]

Originally Posted by Reverend Conehead

I think very few fans accept the mediocrity. Most of us scream about it on boards like this one and on radio talk shows, etc., but that's really all we can do since we're not the owner or GM or any kind of coach.

Yep. i've yet to see one that does.

[visionary]

Originally Posted by Everlastingxxx

I think many fans have grown to have a defeatist attitude with regards to the Cowboys. They have accepted mediocrity and fear raising their expectations because they don’t want to get hurt anymore. It’s like a parent being content with their child making “Cs” on their report card and not expecting them to make “As”.

Great post
See examples of what you are saying in this very thread

It is lowered expectations out of fear, partly also the "look at me I am a real fan", and also the need for acceptance

[DatWin]

I know plenty of people who are fans of other teams and a lot of them are able to look at their teams at face value. It seems like Cowboys fans can never do that. It could be the media talking about how "talented" this team is or how this year could finally be "THE" year for the Cowboys.

If we just take a step back and look at the Cowboys honestly, with all the "Americas Team" and "Cowboys brand" aside, this is just another average football team. However, since we're the Cowboys (the Yankees of the NFL) there are always high expectations for this team regardless of the talent level and it has an effect on the fans who constantly expect greatness.

This team and core group of players has done nothing to show fans that they're capable of that kind of greatness. Do we have great players? Yes, but we're certainly not a "whole is greater than the sum of it's parts" kind of team.

If we looked at another team who consistently blows chances to make the playoffs and had 1 playoff victory under its belt since 1996, then would we HONESTLY look at that team and see greatness, or anything other than average? The Cowboys are who they are; a mediocre football team who can't win in crunch time. It's who they've been for a long time now.

[Seven]

New? That's funny right there. It's beyond mediocre. Fans celebrate the loss of a division rival like it's our Super Bowl. That's what Jerry and the gang have given us. Pathetic.

[Seven]

Originally Posted by M'Kevon

Really? You're using a quote from almost 20 years ago now?

Nothing better (or legitmate) than that. Shame.

Really? We're still waiting. You hit it out of the ball park and don't even realize it. Thanks.