Are Carter, Lee, and Murray busts?

[JoeyBoy718]

I don't know if you read my posts from yesterday but I was bringing up these 3 guys when trying to defend Mike Jenkins. The fans have been hating on Jenkins the majority of his career. Aside from some character issues and that one bad season when the whole team quit, Jenkins has been very similar to Lee, Carter and Murray. They're all good players who have injury concerns.

If the Cowboys were confident that Jenkins would stay healthy, they wouldn't have went out and got both Carr and Claiborne. Jenkins is a starting CB on any team in the league. But I agree with the Cowboys' decision to move on from Jenkins and get starting CBs they can rely on.

So what's to say we shouldn't treat Lee, Carter and Murray the same way? If Lee misses 8 games next season and his contract expires, do you really want to sign him to a massive contract? What about if Carter and Murray continue to miss games throughout the rest of their contracts?

I just don't like how people show a hatred toward Mike Jenkins and never say anything wrong about Lee, Carter and Murray when they're all eerily similar. Cowboys fans tend to overrate their players. Sean Lee has shown potential to be a top 5-ish ILB in the league. Carter has really only played about a half a season in his first 2 years. And Murray showed glimpses of brilliance but so did Felix and Julius Jones.

[JoeyBoy718]

Originally Posted by AMERICAS_FAN

They're much more likely to be "busts" in Canton than the kind of "busts" you're thinking about.

Don't get ahead of yourself. I'll give you Sean Lee. Lee still hasn't shown he is a Patrick Willis LB, but he has shown potential to be a top 5-ish LB in the league. Carter hasn't done much to be treated like a superstar. He started about half a season in 2 years. He looked good but so did Anthony Spencer his 2nd season and look how people treat Spencer. Murray hasn't really done anything. RBs come and go. Murray has never broken 1,000 yards in a season. Don't use the word "Canton" when referring to Murray.

[DFWJC]

Originally Posted by perrykemp

Not busts -- in fact all three are supremely talented.

If, however, they end up playing a similar number of snaps in 2013 as they did in 2012, it's hard seeing the Cowboys improving a lot.

This *3

[FiveRings]

All 53 players on our roster are injury prone. It's football and it happens. Jerry is an aggressive drafter, sometimes that bites us in the butt and sometimes it pays off.

[cowboy_ron]

[TwoDeep3]

Originally Posted by Fletch

Don't even need to reply to this.

And yet, you did.

[Risen Star]

I don't consider any of the three as proven players yet.

But clearly if they stay on the field they are very good.

[arglebargle]

If the players aren't getting the same sort of injuries that they had in college, this is just blather.

If the player only had a single injury in college, he's not proven to be injury prone.

And even when this all lines up properly (ie, someone like Frank Gore), he can still be worth it.

Blather thread, full of blather, that I will not blather on about anymore.

[Kangaroo]

Originally Posted by PA Cowboy Fan

When 3 of your best players can't stay healthy, it's a problem.

Once again people making up stuff about Carter being injury prone. He missed 1 freaking game in college due to injury. His knee was injured in the second to the last game of the season his senior year that is why he barely played his first year in Dallas the knee injury happened so late his senior in college career. He had one injury with 4 years starting in college

[Aven8]

If healthy this is your new core. Add in Claiborne and Dez as well. That's who we should build around.

[Shinywalrus]

I get the point of the thread - the title is provocative, but the underlying point is a fair one: how much time can a player miss with injury before we consider them an unproductive use of resources and roster spots? Put into context, NaVorro Bowman and Daryl Washington both played nearly as much this season alone as Sean Lee has in his career. Arian Foster played about as many snaps this season as Demarco has over his career.

Totally different from picking bad players, so I get why people are rolling their eyes at the "bust" notion, but stop pretending like you didn't get what the OP was saying.

[TheDallasDon]

A serious question......do you know what bust means?

[Apollo Creed]

There is a reason a lot of these guys slipped by a lot of teams.

You can't help the team if you aren't on the field.

But like many have said, when healthy - they all have pro bowl potential.

[SilverStarCowboy]

Originally Posted by TX Cowboy

By virtue of the fact they can't manage to stay healthy?? then yes they are
busts, now that may rub folks the wrong way here, but Dallas doesn't need
guys who can't go the distance during the season, they all so can not go
with out some sort of quality depth/rotation another issue where they're
all ways failing to get it done

[LUVDABOYS]

Improve the Big boys up front (ecsp. the NT) and you'll see less injuries to our inside LBers.