MacMahon: Jerry Jones ignoring the real issue

[Sasquatch]

I think Jerry would do well to heed the sagacious advice of another famous surgically-altered individual.

[Risen Star]

Originally Posted by wileedog

Like any addict, Jerry needs to hit rock bottom again. So I think it will take 1 or 2 abysmal 2009 type drafts and couple of 4-10, 5-11 seasons to make that happen. Considering the media has already turned on Jerry pretty badly the past few seasons, I think the heat may get ratcheted up enough at that point for him to look in the mirror again.

But don't forget, most people speculate the only reason he stepped back for Parcells was to get his palace/stadium approved and built. He's already got that now.

He's got the stadium built but he's also got father time working against him. At some point I have to believe he gets desperate enough, knowing he's not for long, to bring in some sanity. Of course he'll still be the GM and all that but the head coach will have the power Parcells had.

Frankly, if it meant landing Payton or Holmgren this offseason, I think he would do that now.

I look at it like we can win with Jerry, we just can't ever win because of him. He's got to be dragged there by his subordinates. Which is why he's such a terrible GM.

[AKATheRake]

Originally Posted by FLcowboy

If I remember, Parcells was going through a nasty divorce at the time, and needed the ready cash to maintaiin his style of living.

Despite all the responses there is some serious truth to this.

[AKATheRake]

Originally Posted by Sasquatch

I think Jerry would do well to heed the sagacious advice of another famous surgically-altered individual.

Any more losing and he might promote Red to GM.

The more we lose, the more the guy gets promoted.

[dadymat]

another creative Lil Timmy joint

[ravidubey]

Originally Posted by Risen Star

You seem to be saying you don't think we can win as long as Jerry's here. As negative as I am about him I don't agree with that. I think we can. It's just going to take the right coach. Someone who commands a lot of respect, has a good eye for talent and is capable of working around Jerry.

I don't see anyone not currently working for the Patriots who could be that guy.

Holmgren maybe.

But Jerry is in love with both himself and his current puppet, leaving Dallas with only a puncher's chance to win.

I actually believe Dallas can edge into the playoffs this season because the Jones family will be forced to upgrade both offensive and defensive lines, something they've let rot for years now.

[T-RO]

The post-Jimmy 128-128 record is very deceptive, IMO. In reality Jerry has been much worse than that.

Here are 3 things, obscuring the truth.

-There were several years where the Cowboys were riding the residue of a dominant team that Jimmy built. They stacked up some wins in those 3 years after Jimmy left.

-Parcells seasons were winning years...but they were temporary as Jerry was only ceding control to manipulate the metroplex into helping fund his staydyim. (by his own confession)

-Romo. Whether or not Tony can win the big one is a valid debate. Whether Tony's talent has masked the weakness of these teams over the past 5 years, and win a surprising number of games... is not really much to debate. Valley Ranch completely lucked out in acquiring T-Ro.

[DavidS]

Why would anyone read that morons articles is beyond me...

[Risen Star]

Originally Posted by T-RO

The post-Jimmy 128-128 record is very deceptive, IMO. In reality Jerry has been much worse than that.

Here are 3 things, obscuring the truth.

-There were several years where the Cowboys were riding the residue of a dominant team that Jimmy built. They stacked up some wins in those 3 years after Jimmy left.

-Parcells seasons were winning years...but they were temporary as Jerry was only ceding control to manipulate the metroplex into helping fund his staydyim. (by his own confession)

-Romo. Whether or not Tony can win the big one is a valid debate. Whether Tony's talent has masked the weakness of these teams over the past 5 years, and win a surprising number of games... is not really much to debate. Valley Ranch completely lucked out in acquiring T-Ro.

Outstanding post. You are very right.

Of course people will say Jerry made the decision to hire Jimmy and Parcells, but the truth of the matter is when he's left to act as GM on his own, he's much worse than a .500 type GM. Much worse.

That's important now because there isn't a Jimmy or Parcells in the room. It's Jerry. And Stephen. The same geniuses that gave you the Campo years.

That's what's been so alarming to me with what we seem to be doing now. I don't know if Jason Garrett can build a team or not, but I do know the Jones' can't. So if the approach is more of them and less of Garrett, well.....starting thinking about a top 10 pick in the 2014 draft.

[silver]

Originally Posted by BrAinPaiNt

Whether or not Garrett is a puppet or not is not the important issue.

The important issue, as McMahon points out, is that everyone over the years has been accountable except for the GM. 128-128 record with different players, coaches, schemes, scouts...same GM and Ownership.

THAT is the problem.

And people can drone on and on about how Jerry just takes the info he is given and decides from there.

Well when you know the guy owns the team and is the GM...Chances are if you want to keep your job you are going to start catering to what that guy wants...even if it is a slight lean towards things he prefers in players, coaches, attitudes or schemes or anything else. Sad thing is in the end after catering to what the boss wants...it is you who gets fired for doing what he wants.

[View Full Quote]So even if for some reason Jerry makes a good call...it will just be seen as the same old Jerry messing with things. You can't hold everyone else accountable without holding yourself accountable when you have a 128-128 record. There should come a time when you realize you are either the problem or a major part of the problem.

I wonder if Jerry has realized that and just thinks he can change it or turn it around without stepping down...or I wonder if he really does not realize he is part of the problem.

Either one is disturbing.

“There's an old saying in Tennessee — I know it's in Texas, probably in Tennessee — that says, fool me once, shame on — shame on you. Fool me — you can't get fooled again.”
― George W. Bush

[tyke1doe]

Originally Posted by BrAinPaiNt

Whether or not Garrett is a puppet or not is not the important issue.

The important issue, as McMahon points out, is that everyone over the years has been accountable except for the GM. 128-128 record with different players, coaches, schemes, scouts...same GM and Ownership.

THAT is the problem.

And people can drone on and on about how Jerry just takes the info he is given and decides from there.

Well when you know the guy owns the team and is the GM...Chances are if you want to keep your job you are going to start catering to what that guy wants...even if it is a slight lean towards things he prefers in players, coaches, attitudes or schemes or anything else. Sad thing is in the end after catering to what the boss wants...it is you who gets fired for doing what he wants.

[View Full Quote]So even if for some reason Jerry makes a good call...it will just be seen as the same old Jerry messing with things. You can't hold everyone else accountable without holding yourself accountable when you have a 128-128 record. There should come a time when you realize you are either the problem or a major part of the problem.

I wonder if Jerry has realized that and just thinks he can change it or turn it around without stepping down...or I wonder if he really does not realize he is part of the problem.

Either one is disturbing.

[Double Trouble]

Originally Posted by T-RO

The post-Jimmy 128-128 record is very deceptive, IMO. In reality Jerry has been much worse than that.

Here are 3 things, obscuring the truth.

-There were several years where the Cowboys were riding the residue of a dominant team that Jimmy built. They stacked up some wins in those 3 years after Jimmy left.

-Parcells seasons were winning years...but they were temporary as Jerry was only ceding control to manipulate the metroplex into helping fund his staydyim. (by his own confession)

-Romo. Whether or not Tony can win the big one is a valid debate. Whether Tony's talent has masked the weakness of these teams over the past 5 years, and win a surprising number of games... is not really much to debate. Valley Ranch completely lucked out in acquiring T-Ro.

There's another thing that obscures how bad it has been.

The Cowboys have an enormous financial advantage over most of the league, especially now with the new stadium. Jerry as a businessman has done a fantastic job - with Parcells' and the city of Arlington's aid - in giving him hundreds of million$$ to play with as a GM.

If Jones has to eat a contract with a huge signing bonus because he misses on a free agent, the biggest worry for him is renegotiating someone else's contract to lessen the cap hit. If a team like Buffalo or Cincinnati has to do that, it's a crippling blow. Those kind of teams have only a fraction of the $$ avaliable to spend that Jones does. Considering Jones' almost limitless resources as a GM, it's pathetic that he could go 15 years with a .500 record in spite of such an enormous advantage.

[Wolfpack]

The Ring Master strikes again. He can not GM a team past .500 but he can make headlines.

Look what Jerry has articulated since going 8-8 a week ago...he has kept Dallas in the spotlight and diverted all the negative talk to positive spin.

He panicked again and went after the biggest name he could find in hopes of diverting the blame into a shinny new beginning.

Dallas ran a 4-3 Tampa 2 under Mike Zimmer in 2002. Then it was a 3-4 a la Bill P. Then it was the 3-4 under of Wade, then Wade personally had to run the defense because it didn't deliver. Then it was Ryan's 3-4. Now ten years later, its back to the 4-3 Tampa and 4 Head Coaches later, 5 Defensive Coordinators later and 4 defensive schemes. All that in 10 years. Its a rudderless ship in terms of team identity and personal but Jerry can always sing "Tomorrow".

[rickjameschinaclub]

The same Jerry Jones that brought back Dave Campo is the same Jerry Jones that hired Garrett. The Garrett homers just don't want to admit that the same rules of 'foolishness' that apply to other coaches is the same' foolishness' that went into the hire of Garrett. Instead, they make all sorts of excuses for Garrett, such that he is 'hamstrung' and is being held back, despite his whole family being in this organization.

I mean Jason Garrett's spin of 'process' and 'continuity' can further be cemented as just another huge excuse for his ineptitude. Injuries to Ryan's defense were not an excuses, but during the season, JG was high and mighty about how the loss of Murray was hurting the offensive production.

[DOUBLE WING]

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