What Kiffin Won't Do

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[CATCH17]

Originally Posted by Risen Star

We could have hired Captain Kangaroo as the new DC and half this board would be high fiving themselves.

Ain't that the truth.

Evidently the only guy that would've been a bad hire was Dave Wannstedt.

[TwoDeep3]

Originally Posted by gimmesix

Or how about San Francisco last year in their first with a new head coach and defensive coordinator?

Just because it took Rob two years to implement his defense does not mean good coordinators can't do it quicker.

Kiffin's defense is a bend don't break defense. They play for turn-overs and sacrifice run after the catch to try and break on the ball, or strip the ball carrier.

Between the twenties he doesn't care.

And truthfully yards given up don't matter. it is points allowed. That is why all these stat gurus on this board who argue yards and such miss the point.

If your defense is giving up 15 points a game, then why should you care that they give up 350 yards per game. Just score 16 consistently and you will win.

This is a feast or famine type of defense, and it is expected that he will step in and transform them into a turn over machine.

But personnel is what makes schemes work. And if this personnel doesn't fit the scheme, and because of cap, and talent acquisition Dallas cannot put those players on the field the first year or two, then the expectations of the Kiffin Krowd will be a little pie in the sky.

He is a good coach. But a mechanic is only as good as his tools.

[187beatdown]

Originally Posted by Risen Star

We could have hired Captain Kangaroo as the new DC and half this board would be high fiving themselves.

On the flip side we could have hired the reanimated corpse of Tom Landry to coach the defense and people would complain it was a Jerry move.

[fishspill]

My only fear, and I don't think I'm alone here, is that this is yet another instance of Jerry buying two more years to sell the product "Hope" instead of the product "Success."

[Dash28]

Originally Posted by Risen Star

We could have hired Captain Kangaroo as the new DC and half this board would be high fiving themselves.

That's false.

I'd guess about 70% of this forum is negative on most things.

[gimmesix]

Originally Posted by TwoDeep3

But personnel is what makes schemes work. And if this personnel doesn't fit the scheme, and because of cap, and talent acquisition Dallas cannot put those players on the field the first year or two, then the expectations of the Kiffin Krowd will be a little pie in the sky.

He is a good coach. But a mechanic is only as good as his tools.

From what I can see, most of the tools are a good fit. And there are a few I'm unsure of who could prove to be fine fits as well and shore up the questionable spots.

[newlander]

Originally Posted by Risen Star

We could have hired Captain Kangaroo as the new DC and half this board would be high fiving themselves.

....because it's so true.

[CATCH17]

Originally Posted by Dash28

That's false.

I'd guess about 70% of this forum is negative on most things.

Id say 60% of this board is objective and the other 40% have an agenda one way or the other.

Most of it is coming off as negative though because the Cowboys don't give us much to be positive about.

[gimmesix]

Originally Posted by gimmesix

From what I can see, most of the tools are a good fit. And there are a few I'm unsure of who could prove to be fine fits as well and shore up the questionable spots.

According to Rick Gosselin, Tony Dungy says three dynamic pieces are needed for this scheme:

a tackle who can command double teams and create havoc inside;

a weakside linebacker who can run, tackle in the open field, cover and make plays in the passing game;

a take-charge safety who can make the defensive calls, get everyone line up in the right spots, move up into the box to be a run player but also has the skill and speed to play half the field in the Cover-2 zone scheme.

The first one is Ratliff, if healthy, but Dallas probably needs to hedge its bets there.

The second one is Carter.

The third one could be Church, but again, Dallas needs to cover itself there.

I look forward, BTW, to Ware not having to drop into coverage anymore. To me, there's always been something wrong with a scheme that takes your best pass-rusher and doesn't always give him the opportunity to rush the passer.

[Gameover]

Originally Posted by CowboyMcCoy

This move is retarded. Our scheme was fine this year and our defensive coach did an outstanding job. He was right when he said, "When you play that way for the first 10 games, you're supposed to be 9-1 and or 10-0." "We were 5-5."

Why are you saying bye to me?

[TwoDeep3]

The Tampa 2 is predicated on pressure by the defensive line. Period.

Now ask yourself why it was that the Redskins pushed Dallas all over the field in their running and passing game.

The answer is Dallas does not have a smash mouth defensive front. Think of the last time Dallas actually manhandled a team with their front seven.

So, Dallas will take these same players and try to get pressure where they have not before to the extent of running the Tampa 2.

This defense is about stout defensive tackles that can maintain the middle and stop the run. Because when the middle linebacker, and that will be Bruce because of his size and speed will vacate to cover the middle of the field offering what essentially is the Tampa 3, with the middle linebacker guarding the middle of the field, that puts the tackles on islands with the running game.

So if you do not have defensive tackles that can hold their ground and prevent the run, then you will be gashed.

Since Dallas hasn't shown it can put on pressure, then it is my contention unless they draft the right people and come away in FA with the right defensive front, this will not transition as well as some think.

I am not knocking Kiffin, but the idea that this team has the components as it stands to play this defense. It takes two solid tackles and pressure.

Another aspect of this defense is that two TE sets with athletic TEs press the seams and force decisions by the weakside linebacker and safeties. This is where the mismatch will come.

Last is this defense does not care how many yards it gives up between the twenties. It is predicated on sacks and turnovers. The scheme does not do all the generating of these important aspects of the defense.

It takes the right players.

Now Kiffin may be able to tweak the defense and make it shine. But there will need to be a drastic change in the interior defensive line to play this defense. And pressure from the outside.

Because if you do not put on pressure, the DB's are in trouble.

[kirkjrk]

Originally Posted by Risen Star

We could have hired Captain Kangaroo as the new DC and half this board would be high fiving themselves.

Only if Mr. Greenjeans was his Asst. Anyone on this board old enough to know who that was.

[Falcon554]

Originally Posted by JustDezIt

is age the only thing detrimental in your opinion?

Nope but your telling me they only DC they could find is older then Jerry? Im sorry I dont care how well he did with Tampa, can he handle what it is going to take to fix this D? I have my doubts.

[OklahomaCowboy88]

You're one of the best reads on this forum TwoDeep, but I disagree entirely that it'll take long to get the playeres in. Ware is a pressure player. Hatcher and Ratliff get pressure up the middle. Lets not forget Brian Price who drew comparisons to Sapp pre-draft. So we need another DE. We already have fast linebackers. Our corners can play any scheme. Safety is a concern. So a DE and a S or two. Not that big a deal.