What exactly do people want?

[newlander]

Originally Posted by Risen Star

Well I ultimately want real personnel men running this team.

But short of that, I want the GM to decide if he wants to retain the coach or not. Either keep him or replace him. Then I want the head coach to decide the staff and play calling. The GM can worry about personnel. He has no business telling the head coach how to run his team. None whatsoever. If he doesn't like how he's running it, fire him. Don't make him a powerless figurehead. You can't win that way.

I basically want the Cowboys to run like a successful disciplined team. I don't think it's too much to ask.

.......exactly, and it's not like RS is the lone ranger here: MILLIONS of cowboys fans feel this way and JJ is doing a perfect Al Davis impersonation: he won't relent, won't change his ways and simply won't adapt. So...we'll continue to slog through 6-9 win seasons until he is gone.

[Reality]

Originally Posted by Rynie

Garrett gone. That's what I want.

And that is what all of the whining is about. It's not really anything other than the fact some people want Garrett gone so any move made that is not firing Garrett will be a chance to insult Jerry Jones.

I guess I get to have a low stress offseason since I can live with or without Garrett.

/reality

[Reality]

Originally Posted by newlander

.......exactly, and it's not like RS is the lone ranger here: MILLIONS of cowboys fans feel this way and JJ is doing a perfect Al Davis impersonation: he won't relent, won't change his ways and simply won't adapt. So...we'll continue to slog through 6-9 win seasons until he is gone.

Millions huh?

/reality

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Originally Posted by Risen Star

Well I ultimately want real personnel men running this team.

But short of that, I want the GM to decide if he wants to retain the coach or not. Either keep him or replace him. Then I want the head coach to decide the staff and play calling. The GM can worry about personnel. He has no business telling the head coach how to run his team. None whatsoever. If he doesn't like how he's running it, fire him. Don't make him a powerless figurehead. You can't win that way.

I basically want the Cowboys to run like a successful disciplined team. I don't think it's too much to ask.

When you have to characterize the relationship between the coach and the team as 'his team' then you are just creating a circular argument. You define the conclusion in the premise.

The thing is that this is not 'his team.' In very few cases is that situation remotely accurate. Most places like say the Colts or Patriots with Pioli, it is a joint venture. It is 'their team.'

Some coaches that have been successful in 'their' situations fall short when they get 'his team.' Parcells on one end and Pioli on the other. What I want is a well run front office which is all of the above. We don't have that but just like your notion that its all about the trenches to the point of everything else being insignificant, it's an oversimplification.

[newlander]

Originally Posted by Reality

And that is what all of the whining is about. It's not really anything other than the fact some people want Garrett gone so any move made that is not firing Garrett will be a chance to insult Jerry Jones.

I guess I get to have a low stress offseason since I can live with or without Garrett.

/reality

.....I've NEVER been a Red basher: more like a JJ basher because he's CLUELESS...yes, millions of cowboys fans think he is a dolt and should step aside and hire someone that knows what theyr'e doing: educated guess!

[SWG9]

You know what would make me happy?

Jerry Jones holding a press conference where he makes it clear that he's behind Garrett 100% and fully committed to him for the long term.

Jones and Garrett putting every player on notice, from Romo on down, that the last few seasons of mediocrity have been unacceptable and that it falls on them to get better.

An honest and brutal evaluation of every player on the roster and a significant roster shake up headed into 2013.

Competition at almost every position.

In short, a total end to the country club atmosphere that's destroyed this franchise.

But hey, I guess when Jerry said it was going to be "uncomfortable", he meant uncomfortable for the coaches, not the players. You know, God forbid we put any pressure on the same core that's underachieved for three different coaches so far (and soon to be four if things don't drastically get better)

[WV Cowboy]

Originally Posted by newlander

.......exactly, and it's not like RS is the lone ranger here:

That's right, I am the Lone Ranger here, .. and have been for a long time.

(see avatar)

[Vinnie2u]

I would like Dallas to get really good at one thing. I don't care if its offense or defense and build from there. Build some type of identity.

[Gemini Dolly]

Garrett to get stripped off play calling. The defense didnt need to send Rob packing, IMO.

[RS12]

What exactly do people want?

I want to have hope that this team can compete for championships. Havent had that in a long time.

[cowboyeric8]

Originally Posted by Gemini Dolly

Garrett to get stripped off play calling. The defense didnt need to send Rob packing, IMO.

Anyone who doesn't show up for meetings deserves to be fired IMO.

[Rynie]

Originally Posted by cowboyeric8

To whine and moan regardless of what happens.

Just like you whine and moan about other posters. These are my favorite types of posts because Y'all never see the irony in it.

[CowboysYanksLakers]

Originally Posted by cowboyeric8

Anyone who doesn't show up for meetings deserves to be fired IMO.

Wow Rob Ryan didn't show up to meetings????

[Alexander]

Originally Posted by Vinnie2u

I would like Dallas to get really good at one thing. I don't care if its offense or defense and build from there. Build some type of identity.

Very insightful.

Besides our imbecile Owner/GM, that is the biggest problem this franchise has.

[Soth]

Originally Posted by Reality

And that is what all of the whining is about. It's not really anything other than the fact some people want Garrett gone so any move made that is not firing Garrett will be a chance to insult Jerry Jones.

I guess I get to have a low stress offseason since I can live with or without Garrett.

/reality

It's not personal. Not everyone wants Garrett gone. It's not about Garrett, it is about the failures of this team in the last 15+ years. No playoffs in the last 3 years. Someone posted the Jacksonville playoff record in the last 15 years and it is better than ours.

I think a lot of people have lost their patience with Jerry. I used to support him and I liked the fact that he really wanted to win. Now? I can't wait for him to step-down or retire. We all second guess every decision this team makes because they continue to fail year after year. We all love this team and it is difficult to watch them become such a mediocre franchise.

I have absolutely no confidence in Jerry and any decision he makes. In my opinion, he has lost touch with reality and is unable to understand the mistake s he makes.