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01-19-2013
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Right Kind of Guy
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Originally Posted by NinePointOh
The evidence is pretty overwhelming over the last several years that you can get decent backup RBs very cheaply, late in the draft.
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Echo this. RB is one position where I'd rather never have to go with someone else's retread. Get fresh legs.
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01-19-2013
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#17
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he would be a good option, not much tread worn on him .
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01-19-2013
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#18
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Originally Posted by Hostile
Echo this. RB is one position where I'd rather never have to go with someone else's retread. Get fresh legs.
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I think if he comes cheap he's a good option to have as he has experience in the back field at this level of competition and he actually should have relatively fresh legs. With that being said, if you add a vet back like him, I don't think it prevents the team from drafting a back, ad they still should. If he does well in a reserve role you can hopefully unload him for a low pick or mid round at the most.
If you build it, he will run...
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01-19-2013
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#19
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I suggested him to the Cowboys a few days ago. His running style evokes memories of Eric Dickerson, to me. But as others here have suggested, if he can be had for a relatively fair price, yes.
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01-19-2013
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#20
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THE BIG DOG
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Originally Posted by TheCount
Pretty much all the Saints RB do pretty well behind their o-line, so it won't matter if comes here and we can't block.
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It won't matter who comes here if we can't block.
This is a team who is battling several major injuries to
key players including Pro Bowl talents like Lee, Austin, Jenkins, Murray,
Carter and Ratliff. Other key starters missing include Costa, Smith, Church and
Coleman. That is 11 key players - that's half the starting lineup. Yet we still went 8-8.
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01-19-2013
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#21
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1st Round Pick
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Originally Posted by big dog cowboy
It won't matter who comes here if we can't block.
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And it won't help with Garrett congesting defenses in the middle of the field with run heavy formations.
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01-19-2013
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#22
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Originally Posted by montgod
I think Thomas is a FA and won't be resigned so high probability that they tender an offer to keep Ivory
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Two more years on Thomas contract.
You don’t know what you don’t know.
Half of the population has below average intelligence.
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01-19-2013
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#23
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I always liked Ivory, tough runner, seems to have passion for the game. I wouldn't mind is we could get him cheap.
I Want to Believe, but this team hasn't given me anything to Believe in.
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01-19-2013
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Originally Posted by da_whiz_kid
Chris Ivory RFA Lookout
How does everybody feel about Chris Ivory being acquired by Dallas to come in and play behind Demarco Murray. He was undrafted, so I don't think picks would be used to acquire him. I'm still a little iffy about how restricted free agents work, but I believe NO would have to match whatever we offer him if they want to keep him.
From the limited times he came in and played, he always made something happened. He has a solid 5.1 ypc average and was my favorite back on the Saints. I feel he is very underrated, and Dallas should definitely take a look at him, as I think he is more than serviceable.
I still think Dallas should draft a running back this year, even if they were to acquire a back.
How does the zone feel about this possible acquisition?
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ivory could be an option, but NO does RB by committee so it's hard to pin any one RB has a "go to" option.
shonn greene is the FA i'd target if we can get him reasonable.
iceberg
i can’t make a mind see what a heart looks past in hope
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01-19-2013
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#25
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Hostile
Echo this. RB is one position where I'd rather never have to go with someone else's retread. Get fresh legs.
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He is hardly a retread. Its a bird in hand - he is a known, very high quality backup who can take 8-10 carries a game.
I would go after him. We have shown little ability to draft RBs the past 10 years.
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01-19-2013
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#26
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Quote:
Originally Posted by goshan
He is hardly a retread. Its a bird in hand - he is a known, very high quality backup who can take 8-10 carries a game.
I would go after him. We have shown little ability to draft RBs the past 10 years.
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last 10 years we drafted 5
barber
jones
murray
julius jones
choice
so we draft a RB every other year. 2 are still on the team. 1 a fan favorite. choice late in the draft. who cares. j jones just never lived up to what anyone hoped. you're now talking:
2004 - j jones. got me. 1st round.
2005 - barber, 4th round. oh the risk.
2008 - f jones. still here. 1st round. argue value all you want but he's still on the team.
2008 - choice. 4th round. worth the risk and was a "hope" for many for awhile.
2011 - murray. looking good so far.
oh the bad history to wring your hands over.
iceberg
i can’t make a mind see what a heart looks past in hope
Last edited by iceberg : 01-19-2013 at 09:43 PM.
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01-19-2013
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#27
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Right Kind of Guy
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Quote:
Originally Posted by goshan
He is hardly a retread. Its a bird in hand - he is a known, very high quality backup who can take 8-10 carries a game.
I would go after him. We have shown little ability to draft RBs the past 10 years.
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Wow, a totally misinformed post.
A retread is someone else's tire. With a shiny new look.
I don't mind retreads for most positions, but I don't want them for RB.
In the last 10 years we've drafted some RBs who did well, including a guy on the team you might have heard of, DeMarco Murray. Has a ton of promise.
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01-19-2013
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#28
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Senior Member
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Quote:
Originally Posted by goshan
He is hardly a retread. Its a bird in hand - he is a known, very high quality backup who can take 8-10 carries a game.
I would go after him. We have shown little ability to draft RBs the past 10 years.
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Don't confuse our coach's inability to successfully utilize his RB's with them not being talented.
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01-19-2013
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#29
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Senior Member
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Hostile
Wow, a totally misinformed post.
A retread is someone else's tire. With a shiny new look.
I don't mind retreads for most positions, but I don't want them for RB.
In the last 10 years we've drafted some RBs who did well, including a guy on the team you might have heard of, DeMarco Murray. Has a ton of promise.
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Wow, someone who doesn't really understand a word in the English language. Retread implies something that has been 'worn out' and has been 'reworked'. It does, of course, come from 'tires' - retread tires are remanufactured after the treads have been worn down and they are resold for a discount. It doesn't fit the description of Ivory at NO, a RB who is young with very few carries. He isn't a retread.
MBIII and Murray were successful picks. Other than that, we have missed. So say we have a 50% chance (which is optimistic) of hitting on a good #2 RB in a middle round? I would rather sign Ivory who is a known quantity, still young and has fresh legs.
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01-19-2013
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#30
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detoxed
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Quote:
Originally Posted by goshan
Wow, someone who doesn't really understand a word in the English language. Retread implies something that has been 'worn out' and has been 'reworked'. It does, of course, come from 'tires' - retread tires are remanufactured after the treads have been worn down and they are resold for a discount. It doesn't fit the description of Ivory at NO, a RB who is young with very few carries. He isn't a retread.
MBIII and Murray were successful picks. Other than that, we have missed. So say we have a 50% chance (which is optimistic) of hitting on a good #2 RB in a middle round? I would rather sign Ivory who is a known quantity, still young and has fresh legs.
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again, we drafted 5 rb's in the last 10 years.
odds don't mean crap on a small sample.
iceberg
i can’t make a mind see what a heart looks past in hope
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