Full 2 RD mock with Dallas full

[xwalker]

Originally Posted by LatinMind

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I applaud the effort and none of it is completely unreasonable.

The only player that I see that I think is completely off base is D.J.Fluker at OT. I just don't think he is quick enough to play OT in the NFL. I think that Lane Johnson will get drafted before Fluker.

As far as the Cowboys picks, I like some and not so much on others.

It they got Cooper and extra picks I would jump for joy. IMO, he is one of the best players in this draft, but OGs tend to fall; although, if teams see him as a possibility at Center, then I'm not sure he even makes it to #18.

I'm not a fan of taking a QB early this year and definitely not Barkley.

Datone Jones is a solid player.

I love the Swearinger pick. He is very underrated, IMO.

Barner in the 4th and Line in the 6th would be excellent.

I don't think that Geathers will fit the Kiffin defense. He's not really a quick twitch 1-gap type of player that Kiffin likes at both the 1-tech and 3-tech DT positions.

Garrett does not want to draft druggies like Honey Badger, especially when they're a borderline NFL talent, IMO.

[LatinMind]

Originally Posted by xwalker

I applaud the effort and none of it is completely unreasonable.

The only player that I see that I think is completely off base is D.J.Fluker at OT. I just don't think he is quick enough to play OT in the NFL. I think that Lane Johnson will get drafted before Fluker.

As far as the Cowboys picks, I like some and not so much on others.

It they got Cooper and extra picks I would jump for joy. IMO, he is one of the best players in this draft, but OGs tend to fall; although, if teams see him as a possibility at Center, then I'm not sure he even makes it to #18.

I'm not a fan of taking a QB early this year and definitely not Barkley.

Datone Jones is a solid player.

I love the Swearinger pick. He is very underrated, IMO.

Barner in the 4th and Line in the 6th would be excellent.

[View Full Quote]I don't think that Geathers will fit the Kiffin defense. He's not really a quick twitch 1-gap type of player that Kiffin likes at both the 1-tech and 3-tech DT positions.

Garrett does not want to draft druggies like Honey Badger, especially when they're a borderline NFL talent, IMO.

The way i feel on tyrann, is if he fails what do you lose? nothing. You drafted him in a spot that most likely wont be on the team. You lose little and could possibly gain alot.

I know alot of people dont like Barkley pick. But you devlope him.I think thats whats happened with these USC QBs. They were thrown to the wolves. All labeled as the savior.

[Manwiththeplan]

Originally Posted by LatinMind

I know alot of people dont like Barkley pick. But you devlope him.I think thats whats happened with these USC QBs. They were thrown to the wolves. All labeled as the savior.

I personally don't think you can label 1 QB based on others from the same school and system. If I remember correctly, Aaron Rogers had the same QB coach, or offensive coordinator as Akili Smith and Joey Harrington. Tedford I believe, I forget exactly what the link was, but do remember that was part of the reason he dropped.

Each QB should be judged on their own merits. Carson Palmer was a good QB, not the savior he was billed as, but you can't call him a bust. Matt Lienart was a bust cause all he wanted to do wa party. He passed up being the #1 pick in 2005 cause he felt he had it made at USC and never put in the work needed to be a great NFL QB. Sanchez imo, just wasn't that good. Pete Carrol said he should've stayed another season, but as you alluded to, he was billed as the savior, but should've sat and learned/earned everything instead of it being given.

Now with Matt Barkley, I don't see a Lienart like attitude. He returned to USC to win, not to party. But I also don't see the talent needed to be successfull. At sub 6'2, you need Drew Brees like accuracy and I don't see that. Brees wasn't that player early on himself, so you may be right in him needing to sit, but right now I wouldn't take him in the 2nd. Maybe if our window was open a bit more, or just completely shut, but now I wouldn't take him.

[LatinMind]

Originally Posted by Manwiththeplan

I personally don't think you can label 1 QB based on others from the same school and system. If I remember correctly, Aaron Rogers had the same QB coach, or offensive coordinator as Akili Smith and Joey Harrington. Tedford I believe, I forget exactly what the link was, but do remember that was part of the reason he dropped.

Each QB should be judged on their own merits. Carson Palmer was a good QB, not the savior he was billed as, but you can't call him a bust. Matt Lienart was a bust cause all he wanted to do wa party. He passed up being the #1 pick in 2005 cause he felt he had it made at USC and never put in the work needed to be a great NFL QB. Sanchez imo, just wasn't that good. Pete Carrol said he should've stayed another season, but as you alluded to, he was billed as the savior, but should've sat and learned/earned everything instead of it being given.

[View Full Quote]Now with Matt Barkley, I don't see a Lienart like attitude. He returned to USC to win, not to party. But I also don't see the talent needed to be successfull. At sub 6'2, you need Drew Brees like accuracy and I don't see that. Brees wasn't that player early on himself, so you may be right in him needing to sit, but right now I wouldn't take him in the 2nd. Maybe if our window was open a bit more, or just completely shut, but now I wouldn't take him.

I see your point. But Jerry needs to have one of those picks that just makes noise every draft. And if a guy like Barkely is there i could see them taking him.

[Future]

Originally Posted by yoni yoni

Alec Ogletree???

That was the first question I had

[jterrell]

Originally Posted by xwalker

I applaud the effort and none of it is completely unreasonable.

The only player that I see that I think is completely off base is D.J.Fluker at OT. I just don't think he is quick enough to play OT in the NFL. I think that Lane Johnson will get drafted before Fluker.

As far as the Cowboys picks, I like some and not so much on others.

It they got Cooper and extra picks I would jump for joy. IMO, he is one of the best players in this draft, but OGs tend to fall; although, if teams see him as a possibility at Center, then I'm not sure he even makes it to #18.

I'm not a fan of taking a QB early this year and definitely not Barkley.

Datone Jones is a solid player.

I love the Swearinger pick. He is very underrated, IMO.

Barner in the 4th and Line in the 6th would be excellent.

[View Full Quote]I don't think that Geathers will fit the Kiffin defense. He's not really a quick twitch 1-gap type of player that Kiffin likes at both the 1-tech and 3-tech DT positions.

Garrett does not want to draft druggies like Honey Badger, especially when they're a borderline NFL talent, IMO.

Fluker's weight is a concern but I'd take him as a RT right now.
He may not be a great pass blocker but he is a terrorist as a run blocker.

He needs to keep the weight down in the 325 area but he is a true mauler.
This guy is a poor man's Larry Allen IMHO.

He certainly looked like a better player than Barrett Jones this year. In fairness Jones was apparently playing injured but game after game Fluker's guys were driven like whipped mules and Jones simply won match ups.

[Risen Star]

Originally Posted by Future

That was the first question I had

I've done that before. You can lose track of who is still on the board and work on the assumption a guy is already gone.