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01-21-2013
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Lonely Stranger
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Originally Posted by IAmLegend
I swear some of the people on these boards act like it's easy to be a QB in the NFL or something. Or that's it's easy to the to the SB, let alone win one.
How many times did the QB greats fail in the playoffs? How long did it take before Elway got to a SB and won? Marino? Got there once and never won. How many times has Peyton Manning underperformed in the playoffs? He was notorious for it before he finally won a SB. Even Tom Brady has come up short in the playoffs numerous times, i.e. yesterday. But they're all-time great QB's.
The point being, it's incredibly hard to play QB in the NFL, even harder to lead your team to the SB. And this notion that every win or loss falls on the QB is ridiculous. Yes, they control a vast portion of the outcome, but there's 50 other players the team that play a huge role too. Defense and special teams are just as important to winning in the playoffs.
[View Full Quote]If Matt Ryan makes ONE more throw and it's a TD, the Falcons go to the SB and suddenly Ryan's one of the most clutch QB's in the game. But instead, he's one throw away, and suddenly he's a choke artist. Fans don't understand the complexity of the game. Anyways, that's my rant. Take it for what it's worth.
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01-21-2013
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#17
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Senior Member
Joined: | Dec 2008 |
Location: | Tarheel Nation |
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Originally Posted by IAmLegend
I swear some of the people on these boards act like it's easy to be a QB in the NFL or something. Or that's it's easy to get to the SB, let alone win one.
How many times did the QB greats fail in the playoffs? How long did it take before Elway got to a SB and won? Marino? Got there once and never won. How many times has Peyton Manning underperformed in the playoffs? He was notorious for it before he finally won a SB. Even Tom Brady has come up short in the playoffs numerous times, i.e. yesterday. But they're all-time great QB's.
The point being, it's incredibly hard to play QB in the NFL, even harder to lead your team to the SB. And this notion that every win or loss falls on the QB is ridiculous. Yes, they control a vast portion of the outcome, but there's 50 other players the team that play a huge role too. Defense and special teams are just as important to winning in the playoffs.
[View Full Quote]If Matt Ryan makes ONE more throw and it's a TD, the Falcons go to the SB and suddenly Ryan's one of the most clutch QB's in the game. But instead, he's one throw away, and suddenly he's a choke artist. Fans don't understand the complexity of the game. Anyways, that's my rant. Take it for what it's worth.
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That's what separate's elite from average my friend.
Edit: view full quote to see what I was referring too.
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01-21-2013
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#18
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Originally Posted by lqmac1
That should be a yearly ritual for that club. You seen all the weapons they have? If Romo would have been the QB for the Falcons they'd already have a Lambordi or 2!
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How so? You act like romo has never played with weapons before. If history is right he would be where he is today. He has never won at any level. The Cowboys have gone as far as making this team "romo friendly" how has that worked out so far?
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01-21-2013
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Lonely Stranger
Years Donated 2007, 2009, 2012
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Originally Posted by CowboyStar88
How so? You act like romo has never played with weapons before. If history is right he would be where he is today. He has never won at any level. The Cowboys have gone as far as making this team "romo friendly" how has that worked out so far?
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Who cares about the past. There is more football to come.
Oh, and Romo will be there, with the team.
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01-21-2013
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#20
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Senior Member
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Originally Posted by CowboyStar88
How so? You act like romo has never played with weapons before. If history is right he would be where he is today. He has never won at any level. The Cowboys have gone as far as making this team "romo friendly" how has that worked out so far?
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They never actually made the team "Romo friendly". That was Jerry lip service that he never fully followed through on.
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01-21-2013
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#21
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Senior Member
Joined: | Apr 2004 |
Location: | McKinney, Texas |
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Originally Posted by CowboyStar88
How so? You act like romo has never played with weapons before. If history is right he would be where he is today. He has never won at any level. The Cowboys have gone as far as making this team "romo friendly" how has that worked out so far?
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I can say I'm faster than Usain Bolt but that does not make it so.
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01-21-2013
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#22
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Originally Posted by DOUBLE WING
They never actually made the team "Romo friendly". That was Jerry lip service that he never fully followed through on.
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I know right. I have heard on countless occasions that QBs prefer crappy OLs and running games. 
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01-21-2013
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#23
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Fat, drunk and stupid is no way to go through life, son
Joined: | Apr 2004 |
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Originally Posted by lqmac1
Is now 1-5 in win or go home games. Remember that was the headline for Romo heading into the week 17 matchup vs the 'Skins?! I'll keep Romo over "Matty ice", Idk how in the hell he got that nickname.
I have read on here that some of you "Would rather have Matt instead of Romo". Sorry for the wake up call, guys, Matt Ryan is a choke artist! Some people have no idea what we have in Romo 'til he's gone. Let's be honest here, you can have Orton playing for the Falcons and they'll still be in the playoffs year in and year out.
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I see as little reason to disparage Ryan as I do Romo.
"'Room' always makes me chuckle. That's irrelevant. What we have on a given day really doesn't relate to what you're ultimately going to have and how you're going to manage."
Stephen Jones on salary cap limitations
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01-21-2013
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#24
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Lightning Rod
Joined: | Apr 2004 |
Location: | Vancouver BC |
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Originally Posted by Gemini Dolly
Yay, Romo has some company.
By the way, Ryan>Romo.
Text me when Romo takes us to the NFC championship game.
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They both won a single home playoff game. The fact Romo's was first round and Ryan's was second round is meaningless.
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01-21-2013
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#25
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Senior Member
Joined: | Mar 2005 |
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Quote:
Originally Posted by IAmLegend
I swear some of the people on these boards act like it's easy to be a QB in the NFL or something. Or that's it's easy to get to the SB, let alone win one.
How many times did the QB greats fail in the playoffs? How long did it take before Elway got to a SB and won? Marino? Got there once and never won. How many times has Peyton Manning underperformed in the playoffs? He was notorious for it before he finally won a SB. Even Tom Brady has come up short in the playoffs numerous times, i.e. yesterday. But they're all-time great QB's.
The point being, it's incredibly hard to play QB in the NFL, even harder to lead your team to the SB. And this notion that every win or loss falls on the QB is ridiculous. Yes, they control a vast portion of the outcome, but there's 50 other players the team that play a huge role too. Defense and special teams are just as important to winning in the playoffs.
[View Full Quote]If Matt Ryan makes ONE more throw and it's a TD, the Falcons go to the SB and suddenly Ryan's one of the most clutch QB's in the game. But instead, he's one throw away, and suddenly he's a choke artist. Fans don't understand the complexity of the game. Anyways, that's my rant. Take it for what it's worth.
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Elway won a super bowl when
A) He had the defense
B) He had the running game
C) He had the weapons on offense
D) He had the right circumstances (i.e. Didn't have to beat the Cowboys, 49ers in the super bowl, he got passed Pittsburgh and that was it).
In the final two months of 2011, Romo’s passer rating was 115.9.
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01-21-2013
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#26
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Banned
Joined: | Aug 2012 |
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If Romo had a good coach like Mike Smith, and that good of an offensive line in front of him, he would be a Super Bowl winning QB by now.
Ryan is a good QB. He's not better than Romo at all.
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01-21-2013
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#27
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Research Tool
Joined: | Apr 2004 |
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Originally Posted by lqmac1
Is now 1-5 in win or go home games.
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Actually, it's 1-4, but your point is well taken.
If you google "win or go home romo" you get more than 500 relevant search results.
Try the same thing with "win or go home ryan" and the only relevant result is this thread.
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01-21-2013
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#28
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Senior Member
Joined: | Apr 2005 |
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I certainly try to avoid having conversations with those who have clearly decided to be anti-Romo no matter what.
But I will say that it surprises me how hard some Cowboy fans work to make sure Romo gets torn down. "Well Ryan's recent loss was in the NFC Chamionship game" or whatever. They are determined to cling to whatever can show our QB in a bad light.
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01-21-2013
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#29
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Senior Member
Joined: | Oct 2012 |
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Originally Posted by percyhoward
Actually, it's 1-4, but your point is well taken.
If you google "win or go home romo" you get more than 500 relevant search results.
Try the same thing with "win or go home ryan" and the only relevant result is this thread.
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Precisely... it was a term created by the media for Romo only because his playoff record wasn't bad enough. You will never find a reference to another quarterback and the statistic, and you never heard the term before Romo either.
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01-22-2013
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#30
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Senior Member
Joined: | Apr 2012 |
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I would still go with ryan! At least he gets his team to the playoffs!
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