Garrett's Process: Growing List of Players Murdered/Arrested

[Blitzen32]

Lets get the facts straight:

1) After the Brent incident, we were told that the team was galvanized around their HC, and that they were taught right from wrong by said HC.

2) A couple weeks later, a member of said team gets arrested for the exact same type of incident.

Either yall are condoning DUIs in general, or you're so desperate to defend the leadership of the team that you'll brush aside any major incident to continue pushing forward with your agenda.

[rcaldw]

Originally Posted by Blitzen32

Lets get the facts straight:

1) After the Brent incident, we were told that the team was galvanized around their HC, and that they were taught right from wrong by said HC.

2) A couple weeks later, a member of said team gets arrested for the exact same type of incident.

Either yall are condoning DUIs in general, or you're so desperate to defend the leadership of the team that you'll brush aside any major incident to continue pushing forward with your agenda.

"Either yall are condoning DUIs in general..... or..."

D..E..S..P..E..R..A..T..E

[Blitzen32]

Originally Posted by CATCH17

Come on man you're making us fellow Garrett bashers look bad.

Let his fanboys say all the delusional stuff.

Eh.

I'm not really in the "garrett basher" camp. It's just getting ridiculous to me that we continue to fail on the football field, yet make headlines for these types of incidents.

It's inexcusable for this to happen after the Brent incident. Shouldn't have happened anywhere in the league after Stallworth, but definitely should not occur on the same team twice in a couple months.

Especially when said team is not even good. I just don't see a culture change in the right direction.

[a_minimalist]

Originally Posted by Blitzen32

Lets get the facts straight:

1) After the Brent incident, we were told that the team was galvanized around their HC, and that they were taught right from wrong by said HC.

2) A couple weeks later, a member of said team gets arrested for the exact same type of incident.

Either yall are condoning DUIs in general, or you're so desperate to defend the leadership of the team that you'll brush aside any major incident to continue pushing forward with your agenda.

Great work there Sherlock.

[Kangaroo]

Originally Posted by Blitzen32

Like I said, just a discussion question, boss.

I just don't recall as much of this stuff happening under Parcells, and it's starting to creep back in again somewhat regularly now.

It's all love from my end.

You mean like Killer taking a bullet in the leg


Come on it always happens in the NFL hell even the Patriots, Ravens name a winning team they all have had players get arrested

[dadymat]

Originally Posted by Blitzen32

Lets get the facts straight:

1) After the Brent incident, we were told that the team was galvanized around their HC, and that they were taught right from wrong by said HC.

2) A couple weeks later, a member of said team gets arrested for the exact same type of incident.

Either yall are condoning DUIs in general, or you're so desperate to defend the leadership of the team that you'll brush aside any major incident to continue pushing forward with your agenda.

if he is guilty , and gets cut because of it I dont think there will be a fan protest, and im pretty sure no one here condones DUIs, but to think this is a culture Garrett created is just dumb.....and to start a thread saying so is ....well ..like i said ...stupid

[ShortRound131]

Originally Posted by daboyzareback

I don't post much here but have come to the zone for years and must say that any insinuation that Garrett is responsible or should be blamed for what you mentioned is well, idiotic.

I will use my second post to agree. Wow ... idiotic is being kind.

[Bigdog24]

Originally Posted by Titleist

Agreed. It's irresponsible to use Garrett as a scapegoat in this situation. It all comes down to personal responsibility of the players, and it is obvious that two players lack it.

So the Steelers ZERO tolerance is not a good policy,,,Patriots do a good job of policing there own players....maybe the message the Cowboys players are getting is just HOLLOW....just words.... Individual responsibility is one thing but some players just think they are above the TEAM....untouchable....

This COWBOYS TEAM needs BLOWN UP....Jerry Jones and Jason Garrett are chasing problems NOT FIXING PROBLEMS.....2013 is gonna be long drama field year.

[Blitzen32]

Originally Posted by Kangaroo

Come on it always happens in the NFL hell even the Patriots, Ravens name a winning team they all have had players get arrested

Repeated offenses under the same coach, with said coach retaining his job?

Not sure that happens. Maybe in Cincy, but they at least finish over .500

We haven't made the playoffs in 3 years, and we're again becoming more popular for arrests than for anything football-related.

Like I said though, just putting up for discussion.

[HanD]

Originally Posted by Bigdog24

So the Steelers ZERO tolerance is not a good policy,,,Patriots do a good job of policing there own players....maybe the message the Cowboys players are getting is just HOLLOW....just words.... Individual responsibility is one thing but some players just think they are above the TEAM....untouchable....

This COWBOYS TEAM needs BLOWN UP....Jerry Jones and Jason Garrett are chasing problems NOT FIXING PROBLEMS.....2013 is gonna be long drama field year.

Right...selective zero tolerance.....

[CATCH17]

Originally Posted by Blitzen32

Eh.

I'm not really in the "garrett basher" camp. It's just getting ridiculous to me that we continue to fail on the football field, yet make headlines for these types of incidents.

It's inexcusable for this to happen after the Brent incident. Shouldn't have happened anywhere in the league after Stallworth, but definitely should not occur on the same team twice in a couple months.

Especially when said team is not even good. I just don't see a culture change in the right direction.

These are decisions that people are making in the moment away from football.

I want Garrett to teach Jay Ratliff how to be a good football player and put Jay in the best position to succeed on the field.

Away from football I expect a grown man to be able to police himself.

Jay Ratliff should be held accountable for this and not anyone else.

[GloryDaysRBack]

im not sure if its the entire defense, or just the defensive line...but clearly there is a faction of this team that is trying to sabotage this organization...

GROJones maybe?

[Blitzen32]

Originally Posted by CATCH17

These are decisions that people are making in the moment away from football.

I want Garrett to teach Jay Ratliff how to be a good football player and put Jay in the best position to succeed on the field.

Away from football I expect a grown man to be able to police himself.

Jay Ratliff should be held accountable for this and not anyone else.

Not that simple.

Not sure if you've ever played organized sports at higher levels, but you really become more than responsible to just yourself. You have responsibilities to represent your school/organization, and usually will have to answer to teammates too. It gets ingrained in your mind with the right culture.

I don't know if that's the case anymore here. The shame is that it's the exact same incident that just crippled the team and led to such a tragedy.

[GloryDaysRBack]

Originally Posted by Blitzen32

Not that simple.

Not sure if you've ever played organized sports at higher levels, but you really become more than responsible to just yourself. You have responsibilities to represent your school/organization, and usually will have to answer to teammates too. It gets ingrained in your mind with the right culture.

I don't know if that's the case anymore here. The shame is that it's the exact same incident that just crippled the team and led to such a tragedy.

where did you play college football? utah?

[Diogenes]

Jay Ratliff is a grown-*** man. It wasn't his mom's fault either. Good lord.