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Old 01-23-2013   #31
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I really think Holmgren is the guy if Garrett doesn't lead us to the playoffs in 2013.

I would take him as our GM, Love Jerry the Owner, Not Jerry the GM
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just delaying the inevitable. jason will be fired a year from now. guarantee it.
You can't guarantee jack. Maaaaan please!!!!
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Old 01-23-2013   #33
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You can't guarantee jack. Maaaaan please!!!!
That's right...you gotta Book It or Book market.


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I don't know that Jerry's gearing up for a Gruden run (if that was his plan he'd have already done it) but it's obvious the writing is on the wall that Jason is on his last leg here.

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We've been knocking on the door for two years now
Knocking on the "Barely Sneaking Into the Playoffs" Door?

It's not like we've been in back to back NFC championships and just not closed the deal.
victory is ours
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Knocking on the "Barely Sneaking Into the Playoffs" Door?

It's not like we've been in back to back NFC championships and just not closed the deal.
Baby steps.
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Baby steps.
For nearly a decade now.
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Gruden does not get along with Kiffin or Callahan. I don't know why people can't let that go.
They won't. Don't understand why people has this love affair with Gruden.
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They won't. Don't understand why people has this love affair with Gruden.
I like Chucky a lot. He's not coming here and Garrett's not leaving for a long time no matter how much they fantasize. The only way he's leaving is if we completely flop in 2013. Not going to happen.
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I like Chucky a lot. He's not coming here and Garrett's not leaving for a long time no matter how much they fantasize. The only way he's leaving is if we completely flop in 2013. Not going to happen.
Just curious Hostile, you don't think a similar season to this year would leave Jerry in the position to fire Garrett. That surprises me.
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the only Question is whether Garrett can improve on 8-8 and the answer is probably not with dramatic change on defense and inability to improve the O-line in one season.
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I don't know that Jerry's gearing up for a Gruden run (if that was his plan he'd have already done it) but it's obvious the writing is on the wall that Jason is on his last leg here.



Knocking on the "Barely Sneaking Into the Playoffs" Door?

It's not like we've been in back to back NFC championships and just not closed the deal.
There's really not a whole lot that separates "sneaking into the playoffs" and winning the whole damn thing.
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Hos I've said many times that most posters on this board have never played organized football, never been in film study, never gone through a TC, never practice a game plan and then performed it on game day. No, a lot of posters won't understand what you're saying. Some of the nonsense that's posted will explain everything about that poster.
I sorry, but this argument is senseless. People possess the capability to understand things without having to have participated directly in them.
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For nearly a decade now.
It's more like 15 years. In fairness to Jason, though, he hasn't been here all that time.

He's simply the most recent in a long string of coaches who have been unable to turn things around.

When he had the interim tag removed 2 years ago, I remember a number of posters who expected at least 10 wins the following season. I was one of them. Yet, here the team is 2 years later, and it hasn't sniffed 10 wins.
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Keep the faith, fish. There are a lot of positive fans around. They're just underground because the nancification of current events gets to be too much sometimes.

We've been knocking on the door for two years now, and we've got room for improvement on the roster. We're going to get better and better no matter how depressed people are in January. They'll be back predicting NFCE Championships before the season starts and dreaming of Superbowl runs after the first string of two or more victories. (And unbearably angry after the next subsequent loss).
Thanks, Idgit! I need to seek out more of the bolded part!
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the only Question is whether Garrett can improve on 8-8 and the answer is probably not with dramatic change on defense and inability to improve the O-line in one season.
Anything is possible. We've seen dramatic turnarounds in places like SF and Seattle, really all it takes is a solid offseason and a great draft. But it does seem unlikely at this point.

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There's really not a whole lot that separates "sneaking into the playoffs" and winning the whole damn thing.
We don't do either.
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