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Old 01-23-2013   #16
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Well, according to PFF, Livings and Bernadeau combined gave up 12 sacks in the first 10 games and 1 sack in the last 6 games. I mean, that's certainly improvement for what it's worth and may be part of what Jerry was referencing.*

I think, just from watching the games, there was a clear improvement to the line as a whole, but it was improvement from complete and total crap to slightly less worse than complete and total crap.


* OL sack statistics should be taken with a huge grain of salt given the difficulty of accurately assigning responsibility.
I gotta believe that it was the Cincy game considering Geno Atkins basically set up a campsite in the backfield.

If not, I'd be hard pressed to believe it to be accurate.
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Old 01-23-2013   #17
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We had bigger problems at OT and C.
I think that the point of the OP is that we have bigger problems at GM.
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Old 01-23-2013   #18
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Just when I thought he couldn't get any more ridiculously clueless and delusional.......
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re: sacks I think a huge part of that was Romo took his game to godmode.

We still couldn't run the ball successfully though.
Yes, i agree. But it could have been that we were also playing catch-up in many of those games and were forced to pass.

I do think our OL needs better players, but I guess the question is to get at least an above average OL, are we talking about 1 quality OL added to the roster or more like 2?

Would a healthy Costa and squaring the RT position take us to an above average OL?
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what did you really expect Jerry to say? both Livings and Bernadeau sucked? Did you think he was gonna come out and say we are going to re-build the whole OL in the offseason?
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Yes, i agree. But it could have been that we were also playing catch-up in many of those games and were forced to pass.

I do think our OL needs better players, but I guess the question is to get at least an above average OL, are we talking about 1 quality OL added to the roster or more like 2?

Would a healthy Costa and squaring the RT position take us to an above average OL?
Minimum 3. Minimum. Most people are only addressing the starting five and ignoring the non existent depth behind those guys.
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what did you really expect Jerry to say? both Livings and Bernadeau sucked? Did you think he was gonna come out and say we are going to re-build the whole OL in the offseason?
Maybe he could have promised an uncomfortable offseason for the players as well as the coaches.
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re: sacks I think a huge part of that was Romo took his game to godmode.

We still couldn't run the ball successfully though.
Agree on both.
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Maybe he could have promised an uncomfortable offseason for the players as well as the coaches.
so far its been pretty uncomfortable for the coaches this offseason, lets see what Jerry has in store for the players.
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Wonder why this is being ignored?
Because it's not true.

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We'll settle this with a good dust up.
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Maybe because the thread is about Jerry's opinion about our guards, and not about centers, tackles, hot pockets or plunging toilets.
I think this post sums it up. C and OT is off-topic.
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We had bigger problems at OT and C.
How bout 80% of the line needs to be upgraded and they have big problems in general. Cant stop thinking about that Alabama O Line.
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Because it's not true.
You would take Cook and Free over Livings and Bernadeau? I don't believe you.
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Good, Jerry. Don't tip your hand as to what you will do on draft day. Get people thinking you are happy with guard play and then draft Warmack or Cooper. Preferably both, somehow
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the only starter I would keep was Smith

Everyone else can be improved on a WHOLE LOT.

What did anyone expect Jerruh to say?

"I really screwed the pooch dumpster diving last year for O line help?".
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