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Old 01-28-2013   #1
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Default Lets Rank the DT in the Draft post Senior Bowl

FIRST ROUND DTs: Can we pass on any of these guys at 18

Star Lotulelei, Utah : Star is a disruptive force and a load to handle for any guard or center one-on-one.
Sheldon Richardson, Missouri : Never stops exploding off the ball and into his opponent on every snap
John Jenkins, UGA Jenkins displays an impressive combination of power and grace.
Jonathan Hankins, Ohio St. : Has some intensity issues and runs out of gas
Sharrif Floyd, Florida : all around the DLine this guy excels
Kawaan Short, Purdue : Senior Bowl moved him into the late first we will not see him in the second RD at our pick.


SECOND ROUND DTs:

Jesse Williams, Alabama
Sylvester Williams, UNC
Brandon Williams, Missouri S. State

THIRD ROUND DTs:

Bennie Logan, LSU
Kwame Geathers, UGA


FOURTH ROUND DTs:

Jordan Hill, Penn St.
Akeem Spence, Illinois

FIFTH ROUND DTs:

Everett Dawkins, Florida St.

My personal opinion is DT/DE in the first, best value vs OLine
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Old 01-28-2013   #2
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FIRST ROUND DTs: Can we pass on any of these guys at 18

Star Lotulelei, Utah : Star is a disruptive force and a load to handle for any guard or center one-on-one.
Sheldon Richardson, Missouri : Never stops exploding off the ball and into his opponent on every snap
John Jenkins, UGA Jenkins displays an impressive combination of power and grace.
Jonathan Hankins, Ohio St. : Has some intensity issues and runs out of gas
Sharrif Floyd, Florida : all around the DLine this guy excels
Kawaan Short, Purdue : Senior Bowl moved him into the late first we will not see him in the second RD at our pick.


SECOND ROUND DTs:

Jesse Williams, Alabama
Sylvester Williams, UNC
Brandon Williams, Missouri S. State

THIRD ROUND DTs:

Bennie Logan, LSU
Kwame Geathers, UGA


FOURTH ROUND DTs:

Jordan Hill, Penn St.
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I'd put Jordan Hill in the 2nd or 3rd.


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I didn't know Geathers was from the Georgetown clan. That'll be three in the NFL.
Did you know there are only 5000 Snow Leopards in the wild now and they are confined to Central Asia? However, the effective global population (those likely to reproduce) is less than half that number.
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I'd put Jordan Hill in the 2nd or 3rd.


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RB I like his motor, 2nd seems ambitious, I am probably like you and think there is going to be a run on the Dlineman in this draft and that some will be picked earlier than we are slotting. In the second and third I would have a hard time picking him compared to the other talent. Of course I am no scout only a reader of the football media. My claim to fame last year was having Danny Coale in my mock. I did have Hanna as a UDFA.
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Wouldn't be surprised if Williams from UNC goes in the 1st. If he has a good combine, look out. He can play.
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Wouldn't be surprised if Williams from UNC goes in the 1st. If he has a good combine, look out. He can play.
in a normal year for DT maybe.

This year? Very doubtful. This is a creepysick class.
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Star wont be there at 18 so: 1) Richardson has double digit sack ability.

2) Floyd also can collapse pocket

2A) Short maybe the best fit for this defense
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diff schemes will lead to diff rankings.

i will try to be scheme agnostic as possible here.

Star Lotulelei, Utah: Top 3-4 or 4-3 Nose Tackle. Had Ngata-like potential and strength.
Jonathan Hankins, Ohio St.: Could be dropped but size is a huge advantage here. Can play any DT spot.
Sheldon Richardson, Missouri : 3 tech or 3-4 DE. Very disruptive player. A lot of JJ Watt in him. Cocky as can be. Has swagger galore.
Kawaan Short, Purdue: Showed at Senior Bowl he could provide consistent effort and beat single-teams with ease.
John Jenkins, UGA: Looks the part and has tons of potential. Need to see more from him every down.
Sharrif Floyd, Florida: Great athlete who can play 3 positions in a 4-3. May not be dominant at any of them though. Will need more technique work. 3-4 DE could be a nice home.
Datone Jones: I think this guy can gain another 10 pounds and play a 3 Technique for you. So quick off ball inside. Reminds me of Ratliff with a bit less mass. Not an anchor guy but real value an inside pass rusher.
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Star wont be there at 18 so: 1) Richardson has double digit sack ability.

2) Floyd also can collapse pocket

2A) Short maybe the best fit for this defense
Oh I agree Star will be gone in the top ten easily. I am in agreement with your rankings although I think Richardson would be the best fit for this defense.
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diff schemes will lead to diff rankings.

i will try to be scheme agnostic as possible here.

Star Lotulelei, Utah: Top 3-4 or 4-3 Nose Tackle. Had Ngata-like potential and strength.
Jonathan Hankins, Ohio St.: Could be dropped but size is a huge advantage here. Can play any DT spot.
Sheldon Richardson, Missouri : 3 tech or 3-4 DE. Very disruptive player. A lot of JJ Watt in him. Cocky as can be. Has swagger galore.
Kawaan Short, Purdue: Showed at Senior Bowl he could provide consistent effort and beat single-teams with ease.
John Jenkins, UGA: Looks the part and has tons of potential. Need to see more from him every down.
Sharrif Floyd, Florida: Great athlete who can play 3 positions in a 4-3. May not be dominant at any of them though. Will need more technique work. 3-4 DE could be a nice home.
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I did not think of adding Datone Jones to the DT list. He could be a 3 technique and he really has a good motor.
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I did not think of adding Datone Jones to the DT list. He could be a 3 technique and he really has a good motor.
I would only want Jones at SDE but could slide to DT in the nickel

Also im sad to see Brandon Williams in the 2nd.
I have liked him since he was said to be a 5th.
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1. Lotulelei
2. Richardson
3. S. Williams
4. Floyd
5. Short

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We'll settle this with a good dust up.
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IMO short is the best DT in this draft period . He has a burst that few men have at that size .
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IMO short is the best DT in this draft period . He has a burst that few men have at that size .
Remember for the DT we need a great 3 technique and a road grader next to him playing the 5 technique, we know that the 3 technique is who will be driving the Delorean, he must be relentless and powerful to use a movie metaphor the plutonium for the flux capacitor. Short is high grade plutonium. Some of the others are Road Graders. I hope we have multiple options.
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Star won't be there, but anybody else is a possibility.

Great DT draft and we can snag a good one.
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