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01-28-2013
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Originally Posted by erod
Jerry is in an all-out sprint. The ghost of Al Davis is chasing him with a chainsaw.
I giggle at the hopeful debate among Cowboys fans about who is calling the coaching shuffle shots these days, as if history never happened and football sense resides in Jerry's pickled melon.
Hello, McFly....
No, I'm not saying Jason Garrett wasn't in the room when these coaching decisions were bandied about. Sure, I can buy that he wanted Ryan gone, too, particularly if the work ethic rumors were true and given the "unsoundness" of his scheme, according to many a trusted guru I pay credence.
[View Full Quote]But I'm pretty dadgum sure he didn't want to can his brother, nor do I know why Boniol earned his ire or why DeCamillis wanted out so badly last year and now. And you know Garrett especially doesn't want to toss his playsheet with Jon Gruden's staff circling him at Valley Ranch, many of which have manned a sideline in his very spot. The kitchen's got a bunch of head chefs these days.
What and how and why all this is happening, really, is irrelevant. Perception always trumps reality, whether or not they are one in the same, which in this case, almost certainly is.
Garrett's best hope to pull all this off, as moribund as it sounds, is that the cred among players remains from his brilliant handling of the death of Jerry Brown. He carried the team on his shoulders through difficult days, and those left on the roster next year won't forget that. Leaders shine under such circumstances, and Garrett shined the brightest.
Jerry couldn't have done that. No way. Here's hoping the players keep that in mind after Jerry's "uncomfortable" guillotine spree.
Playing to Garrett's favor is also the sad public tailspin of Jerry, who yet again thinks furiously muddying up the water will mask and evade 16 year's of crystal clear documented truth. Desperation oozes from the man, who looks more and more ready to find a trap door somewhere. He just looks uncomfortable.
Yes - and I may be out here on an island with Tom Hanks and Wilson - I think Jerry is looking for a way out of the GM fray. There, I said it. Burn me in effigy if you must. I could be wrong, but my gut says Jerry's tiring of the charade.
Pride, of course, won't let it be on our terms. It won't come with admittance or public intervention. Short of a Super Bowl appearance, there won't be a finite moment or trumpet fanfare to stamp the occassion.
What Jerry needs is a playoff game, preferably two, and he needs it pronto. Another plunge into quarterback hell will only elongate the wait and punctuate his scorned legacy. That last Super Bowl with Deion is fading into pre-High Definition obscurity. A whole Ray Lewis career ago. RGIII was five years old.
Jerry knows this has to happen under Romo's watch. It would bode nicely if Garrett was here, too, but as the odometer piles miles on Romo, that's not a must. Gruden is a call away, and it might fix Romo asap if needed. Jerry's seemingly playing a handful of cards all at once.
Winning once emboldened Jerry to do scary bad things. Now, I think it might just provide the opportunity for him to surreptitiously step into the football background, smug mug intact.
So cheer Garrett and your Cowboys like your life depends on it. More is riding on it than a singular season of wins and losses.
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I think we have to win something first before Jerry will step down, otherwise it looks like he is taking the blame for all of these losing seasons and that is not happenning.
My .02
As the official head coach of the Dallas Cowboys, Jason Garrett is 16-16............"Its a Process of stacking good days"
2013 Prediction: "NO PLAYOFFS"
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01-28-2013
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#32
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Originally Posted by PAINFROMUKRAINE
Garrett's best hope to pull all this off, as moribund as it sounds, is that the cred among players remains from his brilliant handling of the death of Jerry Brown. He carried the team on his shoulders through difficult days, and those left on the roster next year won't forget that. Leaders shine under such circumstances, and Garrett shined the brightest.
[View Full Quote]Why is Garrett getting accolades on the handling on Jerry Brown?. Any decent Head Coach/Human Being would have handled the situation. Garrett is a Football Coach and he needs to be held accountable for his Team's performance. Please leave his compassion with personal matters out of the Head Coach equation. Garrett has not shown that he can handle the responsibilities of being a "successful" head coach. Just because of his Princeton background, he is the Savior. For a man who played and briefly was an assistance Coach in the NFL, he does not have a clue how to prepare his Offensice Game Plan properly. We need to win and one of our weaknesses is Garrett. If Garrett was fired today, he would never sniff another Head Coach NFL job for at least 5 to 10 years. He would not even get a OC job. He would only get a QB Coach job at best. Look around the NFL and Dallas has one of the worse Head Coaches in the League right now. The Truth hurts and the Dallas Fans will have a long Off-Season and 2013 with "Princeton Smart-Football Stupid" playing Captain Kirk on NFL Gamedays.
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Crennel got fired despite handling the killing of the girl by his player, followed by a suicide in front of coaches and players brilliantly, i.e. they won that day...
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01-28-2013
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#33
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Originally Posted by plymkr
Just wanted to say that I agree with what you wrote and hope that it's true. I would love Jerry to exit stage left on his terms and get a gm or whatever to help this ship get right.
But mainly what I wanted to comment on is your writing skills. You area really good writer, I don't know what you do professionally but you have some clear writing skills. I'm impressed.
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Thanks.
My hopes are that a modicum of success might allow him to step out of the light a touch with the "ship headed in the right direction." His old bones are starting to ache, and the constant criticisms are wearing on even his thick skin.
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01-28-2013
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#34
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Senior Member
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Originally Posted by rickjameschinaclub
Crennel got fired despite handling the killing of the girl by his player, followed by a suicide in front of coaches and players brilliantly, i.e. they won that day...
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What a dumb comparison.....
Let's Go Fishin'
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01-28-2013
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#35
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Originally Posted by 1fisher
What a dumb comparison.....
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Really? Jason Garrett is a great coach and leader of men, because he handled the death of a plaer well, but Crennel handles and even more tragic scenario well, based upon the fact that a suicide happened right in front of staff and players, isn't a great coach?
So it's foolish when those standards apply to a guy like Crennel in regards to his coaching, but proof of Garrett's greatness as a coach how?
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01-28-2013
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#36
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Shrinkage
Years Donated 2007, 2008, 2010, 2011, 2012
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Originally Posted by Disturbed
If the Cowboys could win something then he might "officially" pass the GM duties to his son Stephen Jones (who helps in this area now). But JJ ego must be seen as successful and going out on top.
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Not to be disruptive, but why do we think Stephen would make a good GM? He knows less about talent than Jerry does. The guy is a professional check-writer.
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01-28-2013
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#37
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I'm kind of a Big Deal
Joined: | Dec 2007 |
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Originally Posted by rickjameschinaclub
Really? Jason Garrett is a great coach and leader of men, because he handled the death of a plaer well, but Crennel handles and even more tragic scenario well, based upon the fact that a suicide happened right in front of staff and players, isn't a great coach?
So it's foolish when those standards apply to a guy like Crennel in regards to his coaching, but proof of Garrett's greatness as a coach how?
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the tragedy might be comparable , but the teams are not....that team took steady decline over the last 3 seasons, 10-6.....7-9.....2-14, even after the suicide they were just 1-4....there was nothing that would have saved Crennel, it was a lost cause....
here at least you can see the "process" taking form...from the type of players being brought in and lunch pale mindset setting in....the results havent been there in the win column , but there is progress its not in decline.....
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01-28-2013
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#38
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Banned
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Originally Posted by dadymat
the tragedy might be comparable , but the teams are not....that team took steady decline over the last 3 seasons, 10-6.....7-9.....2-14, even after the suicide they were just 1-4....there was nothing that would have saved Crennel, it was a lost cause....
here at least you can see the "process" taking form...from the type of players being brought in and lunch pale mindset setting in....the results havent been there in the win column , but there is progress its not in decline.....
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What does that have anything to do with the point?
And consistently being 8-8 isn't progress...
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01-28-2013
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#39
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Senior Member
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[quote=erod;4985579]Jerry is in an all-out sprint. The ghost of Al Davis is chasing him with a chainsaw.
I giggle at the hopeful debate among Cowboys fans about who is calling the coaching shuffle shots these days, as if history never happened and football sense resides in Jerry's pickled melon.
Hello, McFly....
No, I'm not saying Jason Garrett wasn't in the room when these coaching decisions were bandied about. Sure, I can buy that he wanted Ryan gone, too, particularly if the work ethic rumors were true and given the "unsoundness" of his scheme, according to many a trusted guru I pay credence.
But I'm pretty dadgum sure he didn't want to can his brother, nor do I know why Boniol earned his ire or why DeCamillis wanted out so badly last year and now. And you know Garrett especially doesn't want to toss his playsheet with Jon Gruden's staff circling him at Valley Ranch, many of which have manned a sideline in his very spot. The kitchen's got a bunch of head chefs these days.
I'll archive this in the database with stories about Aliens and the JFK assassination.

You don’t know what you don’t know.
Half of the population has below average intelligence.
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01-28-2013
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#40
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I'm kind of a Big Deal
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Originally Posted by rickjameschinaclub
What does that have anything to do with the point?
And consistently being 8-8 isn't progress...
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Just saying that Crennel got fired because his team was regressing ...so he cant be compared to Garrett, Crennel's team is falling , Garrets is rising....
I never said 8-8 was progress....I said
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the results havent been there in the win column
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01-28-2013
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#41
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Banned
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Originally Posted by dadymat
Just saying that Crennel got fired because his team was regressing ...so he cant be compared to Garrett, Crennel's team is falling , Garrets is rising....
I never said 8-8 was progress....I said
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So then how one handles a tragic situation is really not a valid criteria for being a good coach...
Further, I have no idea what you define as progress, when the win column is stuck at average...
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01-28-2013
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#42
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I'm kind of a Big Deal
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Originally Posted by rickjameschinaclub
So then how one handles a tragic situation is really not a valid criteria for being a good coach...
Further, I have no idea what you define as progress, when the win column is stuck at average...
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not when you go 2-14......
Further, I know you have no idea what I define as progress
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01-28-2013
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#43
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Lonely Stranger
Years Donated 2007, 2009, 2012
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Originally Posted by dadymat
not when you go 2-14......
Further, I know you have no idea what I define as progress
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He does not realize, as other Cowboy fans don't, that an inch here or there (Dez's finger), a wrong read here or there by either Romo or a receiver, or the defense giving up leads, among other gaffes, and the horrible oline, that there was no progress.
As the saying goes, football is a game of inches. With just one or two breaks go the Cowboys way and this is a whole different conversation.
Consider the source, FYI.
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Predicting the future can be very hard, mostly because it hasn’t happened yet."
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01-28-2013
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#44
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Redskins Forever
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Originally Posted by dadymat
Just saying that Crennel got fired because his team was regressing ...so he cant be compared to Garrett, Crennel's team is falling , Garrets is rising....
I never said 8-8 was progress....I said
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Hmm...
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Originally Posted by dadymat
not when you go 2-14......
Further, I know you have no idea what I define as progress
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Wouldn't rising be progress ?
8-8 and then 8-8 seems the same to me not progressive.
Perhaps I misread that one. 
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Originally Posted by AbeBeta
Results are facts. What if is fantasy. Teams pay for facts.
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01-28-2013
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#45
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I'm kind of a Big Deal
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Originally Posted by SkinsandTerps
Hmm...
Wouldn't rising be progress ?
8-8 and then 8-8 seems the same to me not progressive.
Perhaps I misread that one. 
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I said Garretts team is rising....and I also said its not showing in the wins yet.....both are possible.....
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