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Old 01-28-2013   #31
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Jerry is in an all-out sprint. The ghost of Al Davis is chasing him with a chainsaw.

I giggle at the hopeful debate among Cowboys fans about who is calling the coaching shuffle shots these days, as if history never happened and football sense resides in Jerry's pickled melon.

Hello, McFly....

No, I'm not saying Jason Garrett wasn't in the room when these coaching decisions were bandied about. Sure, I can buy that he wanted Ryan gone, too, particularly if the work ethic rumors were true and given the "unsoundness" of his scheme, according to many a trusted guru I pay credence.

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I think we have to win something first before Jerry will step down, otherwise it looks like he is taking the blame for all of these losing seasons and that is not happenning.

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Old 01-28-2013   #32
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Garrett's best hope to pull all this off, as moribund as it sounds, is that the cred among players remains from his brilliant handling of the death of Jerry Brown. He carried the team on his shoulders through difficult days, and those left on the roster next year won't forget that. Leaders shine under such circumstances, and Garrett shined the brightest.

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Crennel got fired despite handling the killing of the girl by his player, followed by a suicide in front of coaches and players brilliantly, i.e. they won that day...
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Just wanted to say that I agree with what you wrote and hope that it's true. I would love Jerry to exit stage left on his terms and get a gm or whatever to help this ship get right.

But mainly what I wanted to comment on is your writing skills. You area really good writer, I don't know what you do professionally but you have some clear writing skills. I'm impressed.
Thanks.

My hopes are that a modicum of success might allow him to step out of the light a touch with the "ship headed in the right direction." His old bones are starting to ache, and the constant criticisms are wearing on even his thick skin.
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Crennel got fired despite handling the killing of the girl by his player, followed by a suicide in front of coaches and players brilliantly, i.e. they won that day...
What a dumb comparison.....
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What a dumb comparison.....
Really? Jason Garrett is a great coach and leader of men, because he handled the death of a plaer well, but Crennel handles and even more tragic scenario well, based upon the fact that a suicide happened right in front of staff and players, isn't a great coach?

So it's foolish when those standards apply to a guy like Crennel in regards to his coaching, but proof of Garrett's greatness as a coach how?
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If the Cowboys could win something then he might "officially" pass the GM duties to his son Stephen Jones (who helps in this area now). But JJ ego must be seen as successful and going out on top.
Not to be disruptive, but why do we think Stephen would make a good GM? He knows less about talent than Jerry does. The guy is a professional check-writer.

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Really? Jason Garrett is a great coach and leader of men, because he handled the death of a plaer well, but Crennel handles and even more tragic scenario well, based upon the fact that a suicide happened right in front of staff and players, isn't a great coach?

So it's foolish when those standards apply to a guy like Crennel in regards to his coaching, but proof of Garrett's greatness as a coach how?
the tragedy might be comparable , but the teams are not....that team took steady decline over the last 3 seasons, 10-6.....7-9.....2-14, even after the suicide they were just 1-4....there was nothing that would have saved Crennel, it was a lost cause....

here at least you can see the "process" taking form...from the type of players being brought in and lunch pale mindset setting in....the results havent been there in the win column , but there is progress its not in decline.....
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the tragedy might be comparable , but the teams are not....that team took steady decline over the last 3 seasons, 10-6.....7-9.....2-14, even after the suicide they were just 1-4....there was nothing that would have saved Crennel, it was a lost cause....

here at least you can see the "process" taking form...from the type of players being brought in and lunch pale mindset setting in....the results havent been there in the win column , but there is progress its not in decline.....
What does that have anything to do with the point?

And consistently being 8-8 isn't progress...
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[quote=erod;4985579]Jerry is in an all-out sprint. The ghost of Al Davis is chasing him with a chainsaw.

I giggle at the hopeful debate among Cowboys fans about who is calling the coaching shuffle shots these days, as if history never happened and football sense resides in Jerry's pickled melon.

Hello, McFly....

No, I'm not saying Jason Garrett wasn't in the room when these coaching decisions were bandied about. Sure, I can buy that he wanted Ryan gone, too, particularly if the work ethic rumors were true and given the "unsoundness" of his scheme, according to many a trusted guru I pay credence.

But I'm pretty dadgum sure he didn't want to can his brother, nor do I know why Boniol earned his ire or why DeCamillis wanted out so badly last year and now. And you know Garrett especially doesn't want to toss his playsheet with Jon Gruden's staff circling him at Valley Ranch, many of which have manned a sideline in his very spot. The kitchen's got a bunch of head chefs these days.

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What does that have anything to do with the point?

And consistently being 8-8 isn't progress...
Just saying that Crennel got fired because his team was regressing ...so he cant be compared to Garrett, Crennel's team is falling , Garrets is rising....

I never said 8-8 was progress....I said

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Just saying that Crennel got fired because his team was regressing ...so he cant be compared to Garrett, Crennel's team is falling , Garrets is rising....

I never said 8-8 was progress....I said
So then how one handles a tragic situation is really not a valid criteria for being a good coach...

Further, I have no idea what you define as progress, when the win column is stuck at average...
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So then how one handles a tragic situation is really not a valid criteria for being a good coach...

Further, I have no idea what you define as progress, when the win column is stuck at average...
not when you go 2-14......


Further, I know you have no idea what I define as progress
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not when you go 2-14......


Further, I know you have no idea what I define as progress
He does not realize, as other Cowboy fans don't, that an inch here or there (Dez's finger), a wrong read here or there by either Romo or a receiver, or the defense giving up leads, among other gaffes, and the horrible oline, that there was no progress.

As the saying goes, football is a game of inches. With just one or two breaks go the Cowboys way and this is a whole different conversation.

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Just saying that Crennel got fired because his team was regressing ...so he cant be compared to Garrett, Crennel's team is falling , Garrets is rising....

I never said 8-8 was progress....I said
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not when you go 2-14......


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Wouldn't rising be progress ?

8-8 and then 8-8 seems the same to me not progressive.

Perhaps I misread that one.
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Wouldn't rising be progress ?

8-8 and then 8-8 seems the same to me not progressive.

Perhaps I misread that one.
I said Garretts team is rising....and I also said its not showing in the wins yet.....both are possible.....
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