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Old 01-29-2013   #31
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Orton is a loser, too..just like Romo.

This guy did nothing in his other stops around the league.

I'd take Alex as a guy with a top pedigree and something to prove with a chip on his shoulder.

But it won't happen. Romo is Jerrah's lapdog and that's that. Same as Bledsoe was Parcells boy.

Romo is Jerrah's boy and the team will go down in flames until the end with Romo.

Tisk tisk.

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Top pedigree? What does that even mean? Alex Smith has had a chip on his shoulder for most of his career. The only thing he has proven is that he is replaceable.

Does Reggie Bush want to be a backup? Does he want backup money? I don't think there is a significant difference between Bush and Jones. Felix seems as if he would be more accepting of a backup role.
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Bush would not want to come in as a backup. Alex Smith isn't even in the same league as Romo. Would I take Bush if he were to agree to being a backup and ditch Felix,yes,but that isn't going to happen. We do need a running back pretty bad because nor Felix or Murray can stay healthy for long. We need to explore a veteran Olineman,if we don't fix the running game and Line we wont win.
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. . . or not.

But I could think of a lot worse fate than Smith or Bush. (Felix and Orton).


C'mon, these two represent upgrades, so don't pretend they do not.
Nice idea if this team was missing a few pieces as a contender.

Unfortunately, this team needs to get younger and they already have a QB that can win games. I say no unless RB wants to play a supporting role and is willing to play for peanuts.
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. . . or not.

But I could think of a lot worse fate than Smith or Bush. (Felix and Orton).


C'mon, these two represent upgrades, so don't pretend they do not.
why smith? he wants to be a starter. if he wanted to be a back up...why not in SF, which is in the superbowl and has brighter future than the cowboys.....

and bush wants to be a starter and wants lots of money. why be a back up to murray?
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Lot's of news on Smith today.

It sounds like the odds are very high that he's gone. But any team that may want him has all the leverage right now. SF will owe him 7 million guaranteed if he's not traded or let go. If he's let go, they take a 2 million cap hit, but if he's traded they're mostly off the hook.

In other words--and I'm not at all suggesting this for Dallas--any team that wants him could get him in a trade for next to nothing. Maybe a 4th or 5th rounder.

Mike and Mike threw out the idea of a Jets trade: Smith and a 2nd rounder for Revis. But most say the Jets would never do that. For one thing, they still would maybe not have their QB...or maybe just a slight upgrade. They also ow Sanchez a lot this year already.

Cleveland and Buffalo are other possibilites. Smith is a year younger than Weeden--lol.
Buffalo has a new Head Coach. That very often can mean a new QB to get a fresh start. They could get Smith for nothing. I'm not sure if he's much of an upgrade at all over Fitzpatrick though.
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Alex Smith is an upgrade over Orton?

Interesting.
Yes, I will say it. Smith would be an upgrade.
Suffice to say that Smith was on fire early this season. I think he was, at one point, 6 and 1.

but it is the offseason, I like to speculate. Give it -- and peace -- a chance.
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why smith? he wants to be a starter. if he wanted to be a back up...why not in SF, which is in the superbowl and has brighter future than the cowboys.....

and bush wants to be a starter and wants lots of money. why be a back up to murray?
A young gun like Smith would push Romo. Maybe push him to be a better all around QB who protects the ball rather than gunsling it or Arena Football the ball.
Smith is already a backup. He will like the paycheck and the chance to start anew. And he know Romo wont be here forever.
Bush would be an upgrade to Felix.
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Having a hard time understanding your typing, without your normal hillbillyomics posting style. But I would definitely take a flyer on Bush.
I appreciate your kind words. I like your posts too.
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Cleveland and Buffalo are other possibilites. Smith is a year younger than Weeden--lol.
Buffalo has a new Head Coach. That very often can mean a new QB to get a fresh start. They could get Smith for nothing. I'm not sure if he's much of an upgrade at all over Fitzpatrick though.
The Bills signed Fitzpatrick to a 6 year extension in October 2011. That is bound to have some sort of impact on what direction they go in terms of another QB.
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I probably like Orton more then most do on this board. I think he's a decent QB but with regards to Orton being a better fit in Dallas then Smith, I'm not so sure I would agree with that. Orton is not mobile. He needs good protection to throw the ball. That's not what we have in Dallas and that's not what Romo is used to doing in Dallas. Smith and Romo have very similar skill sets. Both are mobile, both can throw on the run, both have similar arm strength, both have very good feet and they are very similar in size and stature. Smith is a little taller and Tony is a little bigger.

I actually think that Smith would be a better fit in Dallas simply because his skill sets would allow us to run the same type of offense as Tony runs when healthy. With Orton, I think the offense changes and we go to more of a traditional drop back style of passing game.

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I appreciate your kind words. I like your posts too.

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Both are mobile, both can throw on the run, both have similar arm strength, both have very good feet and they are very similar in size and stature. Smith is a little taller and Tony is a little bigger.
I don't think they have similar arm strength. Romo has a pretty good arm. Not the strongest, but better than average. Smith has an average at best to weak arm.
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I probably like Orton more then most do on this board. I think he's a decent QB but with regards to Orton being a better fit in Dallas then Smith, I'm not so sure I would agree with that. Orton is not mobile. He needs good protection to throw the ball. That's not what we have in Dallas and that's not what Romo is used to doing in Dallas. Smith and Romo have very similar skill sets. Both are mobile, both can throw on the run, both have similar arm strength, both have very good feet and they are very similar in size and stature. Smith is a little taller and Tony is a little bigger.

I actually think that Smith would be a better fit in Dallas simply because his skill sets would allow us to run the same type of offense as Tony runs when healthy. With Orton, I think the offense changes and we go to more of a traditional drop back style of passing game.

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I like whut you said. Smith is definiteativley a upgrade to Orton.
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I appreciate your kind words. I like your posts too.
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I don't think they have similar arm strength. Romo has a pretty good arm. Not the strongest, but better than average. Smith has an average at best to weak arm.
I see them as pretty close in this regard. Neither have great arms IMO.
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