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01-31-2013
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Recap: Demarcus Ware on Mike and Mike - 1/31/13
Just came on...in a shoulder brace, of course.
Shooting the breeze about Golics lack of sacks in his career.
Shoulder update
Rehab's going good. Got his first real night of sleep last night in N.O. Said he'll be ready for next season.
Rule changes
Talk about how some of the rules have taken the aggression out of rushing the passer, because you don't want the 15-yard penalties. Agrees with the league's effort to protect players from hits like those from crowning guys, hitting them in the helmet, and the concussions. But big impact hits is what the league is about.
How much pressure is it to play on the Cowboys?
When you think about the tradition of the Cowboys, all the former guys that played and what they stand for, your going to that from the media. We haven't been backing up the tradition of the Cowboys. especially since I've been playing. We haven't been that consistent team that we need to be. Everybody always says the door is closing, but the door is always closing each year, because this is a business deal. And to have certain guys on the team, you're not gonna have that same team. So, you gotta go into each year saying we gotta accomplish what we need to accomplish and to have everybody on the same page. We have to have that this year.
Talks Rob Ryan
One of the best coaches I've ever played for. Really teaching me how to play and think like a linebacker. I had to know the drops that the inside backers would have, know all the formations, knowinging the skill of the game. He really taught me alot. Knowing the defensive end, I had to know the free safety, the corner back, because he had a diverse defense. I didn't like his firing, but it's the business. We got Monte Kiffin coming in, running the 4-3. We can be more aggressive up front. I'll be playing DE. Just gotta roll with the punches.
Cowboys Underachieving?
We have underachieved at times. We haven't been that consistent team.
Record as good as talent in the room?
Said no, at first, then said, yes. When you go 5-5, it doesn't matter what the name is on the back on the jersey, you're a 5-5 team. There are team that have mediocre guys or guys that don't have big names, but they're playing consistent, and they're playing like a team. That's what it's about. Referred to Seahawks in that they don't have alot of big names, but they play really, really well as a team.
And the problem with the Cowboys?
It's about consistency and mistakes. Can't have mistakes in big games. Can't have big turnovers. This league is all about turnovers. You can't give 2, 3 turnovers a game. It gives the other team more opportunities to score. All about the turnover battle
Thoughts on Read option
Can never get the real look when playing the read option. Do well against Kyle Orton, but when playing against the Newtons, RGIII's, they're bigger, faster guys.
It's all about playing your responsibility. If you can play your responsibility, you can make them one-dimensional. If not, it's almost like having a 2nd running back whose running 10, 20, 30 yards and nobody's playing him. But then you're playing him and then he tosses it, and you hit him, then you get a penalty, because technically he's still the QB. He said if the QB takes off running in the read option, then they're a running back regardless of whether they toss the ball.
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Last edited by WoodysGirl : 01-31-2013 at 10:37 AM.
Reason: Updated from DVR replay
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01-31-2013
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Quote:
Originally Posted by WoodysGirl
Thoughts on Read option
Can never get the real look when playing the read option. Do well against Kyle Orton, but when playing against the Newtons, RGIII's, they're bigger, faster guys.
It's all about playing your responsibility. It's almost like having a 2nd running back and nobody's playing him. But then you're playing him and then he tosses it, and you hit him, then you get a penalty, because technically he's still the QB. He said if the QB takes off running in the read option, then they're a running back regardless of whether they toss the ball.
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Well...the read option QB certainly still gets his share of hits. Ask RGIII about that. I am still of the opinion that the read option is a fad - too much possibility of injury (see RGIII again).
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01-31-2013
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Believe!!!!
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Thanks wg.
Much appreciated.
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01-31-2013
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I'm sure there is reasoning for it, but why would Orton be tabbed to run the read option in practice? How could he possibly mimic the athleticism of those QB's Ware mentioned?
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Originally Posted by DrunkWithPower
Well...the read option QB certainly still gets his share of hits. Ask RGIII about that. I am still of the opinion that the read option is a fad - too much possibility of injury (see RGIII again).
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RG3 never got injured on read option runs. His injuries resulted from scrambles out of the pocket on passing plays
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01-31-2013
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They need to make it so that once a QB is out of the pocket, he loses all protection beyond those a RB gets.
It's like when a scrambling QB pump fakes and then takes off. You can't hit him except for a tiny movie when he's throwing it and QBs use it all the time to get charging defenders to question themselves.
We need wins, and that's all we need. I don't give a damn about anyone on this roster over wins. I'd trade Ware, Lee and Dez if it meant more wins.
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01-31-2013
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Originally Posted by TheCount
They need to make it so that once a QB is out of the pocket, he loses all protection beyond those a RB gets.
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Exactly!
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01-31-2013
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SkinsHokieFan
RG3 never got injured on read option runs. His injuries resulted from scrambles out of the pocket on passing plays
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not the point. your franchise qb is at risk running that style of offense.
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01-31-2013
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Run-loving Dino
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Aikmaniac
I'm sure there is reasoning for it, but why would Orton be tabbed to run the read option in practice? How could he possibly mimic the athleticism of those QB's Ware mentioned?
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We got rid of Stanback about four years too early. 
Ivy League
Jason Garrett offense rank minus Tony Sparano: 18, 14, 7, 15, 15
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01-31-2013
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SkinsHokieFan
RG3 never got injured on read option runs. His injuries resulted from scrambles out of the pocket on passing plays
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I guess what I am trying to say is the possibility of injury should outweigh the benefit of the read option. Does anyone seriously think the Redskins will continue to use it as much next year? My wife is a huge Redskins fan (we are a house divided), so I watched every game with her. RGIII may not have been knocked out the game much, but he was definitely hampered by the accumulation of hits by the end of the game. I think in order to reduce his exposure, the game plan may have to change a bit. Of course, you can't stop him from scrambling on broken pass plays - that is part of what makes him great.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SkinsHokieFan
RG3 never got injured on read option runs. His injuries resulted from scrambles out of the pocket on passing plays
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Call it what you want but part of what makes RG good is his ability run and that running around with his smallish frame takes its toll.
Let's Go Fishin'
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01-31-2013
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Love it. He confirms he'll play DE. Not that we thought he couldn't or wouldn't.
Now who plays opposite of him? We can't afford Spencer unless he takes less which is highly doubtful.
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01-31-2013
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So he said we are inconsistent and make mistakes. He said it's about turnovers. My take on it is he is talking about the OFFENSE turning the ball over. Funny that he does not infer that the defense needs to generate more turnovers. When you look at the investment on this defense....1st and 2nd rounders galore. And the monetary investment in guys that were not 1st rounders (Ratliff)...we should be getting more out of this unit.
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01-31-2013
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Originally Posted by WoodysGirl
Just came on...in a shoulder brace, of course.
The interview with fast, but I taped it so I can go back and get snippets. This is what I got live though.
Shooting the breeze about Golics lack of sacks in his career.
Rule changes
Talk about how some of the rules have taken the aggression out of rushing the passer, because you don't want the 15-yard penalties.
How much pressure is it to play on the Cowboys?
We haven't been backing up the tradition of the Cowboys. We haven't played with the consistency needed to do that.
Talks Rob Ryan
One of the best coaches I've ever played for. Teaching me how to think like a linebacker. I didn't like his firing, but it's the business. Confirms he's playing DE.
Cowboys Underachieving? [View Full Quote]Wouldn't say we're underachieving. We're not playing consistently. Consistency and mistakes. Can't have mistakes. All about the turnover battle
Talent live up to billing
We have talent. We're not playing consistent.
Thoughts on Read option
Can never get the real look when playing the read option. Do well against Kyle Orton, but when playing against the Newtons, RGIII's, they're bigger, faster guys.
It's all about playing your responsibility. It's almost like having a 2nd running back and nobody's playing him. But then you're playing him and then he tosses it, and you hit him, then you get a penalty, because technically he's still the QB. He said if the QB takes off running in the read option, then they're a running back regardless of whether they toss the ball.
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There was more, but I got sidetracked. I'll go back through my DVR later to clarify stuff and update this post.
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Thanks, the Read stuff is interesting.
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01-31-2013
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bbailey423
So he said we are inconsistent and make mistakes. He said it's about turnovers. My take on it is he is talking about the OFFENSE turning the ball over. Funny that he does not infer that the defense needs to generate more turnovers. When you look at the investment on this defense....1st and 2nd rounders galore. And the monetary investment in guys that were not 1st rounders (Ratliff)...we should be getting more out of this unit.
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Agreed. He made it sound like it was all offense. How about the D never getting any turnovers, Ware...While the offense certainly had issues (including turnovers), it was typically in better shape than the D was. What I found surprising was when Stephen A. asked him if he would be open to be traded, Ware didn't really shoot it down.
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