Ray Lewis addresses the families of two slain men

[Cajuncowboy]

Originally Posted by WPBCowboysFan

There is a serious flaw in Ray's rationalizing.

HE says God doesnt use people who commit a huge mistake like murder for His glory. So essentuially he is saying its obvious he didnt do it becasue God is using Ray for His glory.

The whole foundation of biblical Christianity is based on God's grace, and His foregiveness. The fact that God can change a life and use it for His glory is a story that has been repeated for centuries. No matter how bad the sin or the person God says He will forgive and offer life anew.

Ray has it wrong and to use wrong rationale to try and pat yourself on the back is never acceptable. Somebody should call him out on this and clarify why he has it wrong.

[View Full Quote]This post was not intended to be a religious post. It is meant to directly refer to Ray's wrong use of his own perception on how God works and is not an accurate representation of what he claims. The post has to do with Ray's misrepresentation, not religion. Since Ray used an argument based on a historical spiritual belief system it should be okay to call him out for misrepresenting it IMO.

Right on the money. Paul was a murderer and became one of the great apostles. Ray Lewis' sins are no bigger or no smaller than mine so I wont throw stones and sit in judgement on his salvation.

I will say that I think the way he has handled this and the Super Bowl week was awful and made it all about him.

[LatinMind]

Ray knows what happened that night? Of course. Do i believe him on him saying a man told him he would go down for it? Damn right i do.

So he took a charge for obstructing justice and he has. Is it wrong? Yes it is.

Think he doesnt live with it everyday? Yes he does.

Has he changed? IN every way imaginable.

Ray Lewis knows what happened, and im sure the cops know it too. But im sure all the evidence isnt lock solid to get a conviction. But Ray is the name and somebody has to pay. Family got paid. Im sure those two that got killed werent saints either.

Ray is one of my favorite NFL players for what he did on the field. IDC about what he does in his life. Thats none of my biz

[juck]

Hes guilty.

[Garland powerplay]

he wore a mink to the trial. Sad noone was held accountable. Our society is eroding calling good evil and evil good.

[The Natural]

Ray Lewis is a special individual

[dart]

yea Ray is paying off that guy that was convicted

Ray Lewis has been dead to me since '02

accused of murder an let aloud to play in the Super Bowl in 02


what money can do for you

if was anybody with out money he be sitting in prison

I wonder if he head is as big as Barry Bonds

you can not tell me he has never user

Lewis has been ensnared in a controversy this week about performance-enhancing drugs, which would alarm a lot of athletes but probably doesn't faze a man who was once accused (and acquitted) of double murder. According to an excellent SI story by my colleagues David Epstein and George Dohrmann, in October Lewis spoke on the phone with Mitch Ross, director of a controversial Alabama-based company called Sports with Alternatives to Steroids

Read More: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/nfl...#ixzz2JzrJnMvy

[WV Cowboy]

Originally Posted by LatinMind

Ray is one of my favorite NFL players for what he did on the field. IDC about what he does in his life. Thats none of my biz

Sad, .. if someone described Ray Lewis to you, but said he worked as a garage mechanic or garbage truck driver what would you think about him?

Let me guess, it wouldn't change your opinion ?? .. yea, right.

[CyberB0b]

You can like him as a player and hate him as a human being. Michael Irvin was a waste of air as a human being the entire time he was here, but he is revered by the fans.

[WV Cowboy]

Originally Posted by CyberB0b

You can like him as a player and hate him as a human being. Michael Irvin was a waste of air as a human being the entire time he was here, but he is revered by the fans.

Yes, .. and good point.

[landroverking]

Originally Posted by CyberB0b

You can like him as a player and hate him as a human being. Michael Irvin was a waste of air as a human being the entire time he was here, but he is revered by the fans.

MI is not in the same low class as Ray Lewis, Michael Irvin did it most to himself

[dart]

Originally Posted by WV Cowboy

Sad, .. if someone described Ray Lewis to you, but said he worked as a garage mechanic or garbage truck driver what would you think about him?

Let me guess, it wouldn't change your opinion ?? .. yea, right.

HE BE SITTIN IN JAIL

[BlueStar3398]

I don't hate Ray Lewis, but I hated his answer to that question! What a bunch of BS.

I hear he plans to take a stab at acting. People will be running when the director yells "CUT!".

[ghst187]

not to get too religious but it is interesting that Ray says essentially that "he is obviously innocent because God couldn't use him for God's glory".....that is flawed logic on so many levels. 1) Moses murdered an Egyptian and went on to do some pretty impressive things....part the Red Sea, ten commandments, strike a rock for water, etc.
2) Ray's equates his football success to God's glory. Seems a bit presumptuous
3) Ray's logic is essentially that because he got away with it and has been blessed on the football field...then he must not have murdered anyone. Believe Rae Carruth was a pretty good player on the field too before he murdered.

Of course what can you expect from a UM thug that's been hit in the head too many times?
I would guess that he must've included a gag order in the settlement that keeps anyone from revealing his true level of involvement....otherwise we'd probably all know more details, ANY details, about what happened that night. And when asked repeatedly point-blank, Ray obfuscates repeatedly and tries to hide behind a religious veil with some flawed elementary arguments.
I hope the attention to this matter and Ray's complete attempted shut down on any and all discussions of any wrong doing on his part, being PEDs or murder, continues to escalate and HoF voters sour on him. The more Ray non-talks about all his sins, the more suspicious i become. He looks more and more guilty everytime this topic comes up.
Shame Goodell wasn't in charge back then, Ray would've gotten in some serious trouble from the league.
How many times will our society and system proclaim a murderer is innocent simply because we liked their performance on the football field?

[jnday]

Originally Posted by CyberB0b

You can like him as a player and hate him as a human being. Michael Irvin was a waste of air as a human being the entire time he was here, but he is revered by the fans.

Big difference in doing drugs and murder.

[ajk23az]

going to get sick of him on sundays every week..

and to think a bunch of people wanted him on our team a few years ago when he was a FA.