11 new coaches have some past connection to Garrett - Dallas Cowboys Forum

Plumfool · 02-08-2013

All the media talk about Gruden being a future hire, this article really argues the contrary well.

http://www.bloggingtheboys.com/2013/...ts-all-over-it

CowboyGil · 02-08-2013

Now JG really has no excuse. How could Jerry make him any more comfortable than surrounding him with coaches he knows? Good article.

PAINFROMUKRAINE · 02-08-2013

Garrett had a chance 2 years ago when he was hired to surround himself with "his type of Coaches". Did he fail or was it part of the "PROCESS"?
John Garrett hire was Jason's Failure.

ConstantReboot · 02-08-2013

Frankly, I like what we did on the defensive side which had Jerry Jones fingerprint all over it rather than on offense.

If Garrett wants to hire those that he is comfortable with then its fine with me. Just that I feel that his hires and selection are below average and bring nothing to shake this offense up for the better. Its nothing than status quo hires based on past relationships rather than on performance. Thats why Im not thrilled at all with Garrett's picks.

Great coaches surround himself with top notch talent and assistant coaches. They don't pick assistants based on comfort level.

**jobberone** · 02-08-2013

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Originally Posted by ConstantReboot

Frankly, I like what we did on the defensive side which had Jerry Jones fingerprint all over it rather than on offense.

If Garrett wants to hire those that he is comfortable with then its fine with me. Just that I feel that his hires and selection are below average and bring nothing to shake this offense up for the better. Its nothing than status quo hires based on past relationships rather than on performance. Thats why Im not thrilled at all with Garrett's picks.

Great coaches surround himself with top notch talent and assistant coaches. They don't pick assistants based on comfort level.

And you know Garrett picked his coaches purely on that basis without regard to their abilities including meshing with his coaching and philosophy because......????

Gaede · 02-08-2013

A lot of people (including me) thought Garrett would never hire the best man for the job a couple years ago, when Rob Ryan was available. I remember arguing at the time that Garrett wouldn't go and get the best man for the job because he wouldn't reach out past his comfort zone.

Even though Ryan wasn't the best man for the job, I still gained respect for JG for trying to get someone a)he didn't know and b)was nothing like him, personality wise.

I am pretty against Garrett as head coach, but I really like the staff he's put together this year. Especially the defensive staff. I learned after the Ryan experience that sometimes coaches don't need to have a 'hot' name to be good.

Watching games will be alot easier as well, because they'll probably show a lot less shots of the defensive coordinator freaking out on the sidelines

Zimmy Lives · 02-08-2013

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Now JG really has no excuse. How could Jerry make him any more comfortable than surrounding him with coaches he knows? Good article.

How do you figure? If he has to parade the same players on the o and d lines again this fall no amount of coaching expertise/comfortability will help.

Beast_from_East · 02-08-2013

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How do you figure? If he has to parade the same players on the o and d lines again this fall no amount of coaching expertise/comfortability will help.

I think he means that nobody is going to give Garrett a pass because of talent level. If he doesnt get this team into the playoffs, most fans are going to want his head on a stake in front of the stadium.

AbeBeta · 02-08-2013

The Tampa Bay links are a joke - he was there for a very short time and likely just knew the ST and defensive guys in passing.

Picksix · 02-08-2013

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The Tampa Bay links are a joke - he was there for a very short time and likely just knew the ST and defensive guys in passing.

Maybe, but how do you know? Whether he did or not, he still saw everything they were doing, and as a backup, probably had a really good view. And so they were only together for a year. How long does it take to develop a "deep" connection? A lot of that depends on the individuals.

Shiloht88 · 02-08-2013

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Originally Posted by Plumfool

All the media talk about Gruden being a future hire, this article really argues the contrary well.

http://www.bloggingtheboys.com/2013/...ts-all-over-it

Considering the former Tampa coaches were Dungy guys not Gruden guys. I never believed any of them.

**Idgit** · 02-08-2013

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Originally Posted by Picksix

Maybe, but how do you know? Whether he did or not, he still saw everything they were doing, and as a backup, probably had a really good view. And so they were only together for a year. How long does it take to develop a "deep" connection? A lot of that depends on the individuals.

It's pretty well-documented that JG was angling for a HC job in the NFL from the day he stepped on an NFL roster. You can bet his last year in the league with the Bucs he was soaking up whatever he could from the coache he was around. And in his role at that point, he'd have plenty of time to do it.

When JG comes out and says he learned a lot from Kiffin in his time in Tampa, I'll take him at his word. The only reason to say otherwise is because you want to believe he had nothing to do with the selection. There's really no other explanation for it.

BHendri5 · 02-08-2013

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Originally Posted by CowboyGil

Now JG really has no excuse. How could Jerry make him any more comfortable than surrounding him with coaches he knows? Good article.

he doesn't need an excuse, never have. He has done a good job.

dadymat · 02-08-2013

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The Tampa Bay links are a joke - he was there for a very short time and likely just knew the ST and defensive guys in passing.

NO....whats a joke is the fools who fall in line behind mediots who spew their personal assumptions as fact...

there is not now , nor ever been any proof that Jerry is doing the hiring while Jason sits and says "yes daddy".....

through out the process of overturning the staff there is nothing other than media speculation and fanboy butt hurts saying that Jerry is calling these shots....nothing......

you question Garretts limited association with these guys yet are willing to believe Jerry with NO association with them is bringing them in....THAT is the joke.....but what ever makes you sleep better....

these are Jason hires and he will be over seeing them for a long time...so get used to it.....cause another "assumption" i that if he dont make the playoffs next year hes fired.....he wont be and the haters will be left to cry away another off season....Garrett will be here another 2-3 years win or lose...if it win...he'll be here longer...

and if they win with this staff the haters will have painted themselves into a corner.....do they then have to say they Jerry the GM hired a great staff and got it done..cause we all know its not allowed to give Jerry credit for anything positive.......or do they admit they were wrong about the hires and that it was Jason who made the call?....inquiring minds want to know

Yuma Cactus · 02-09-2013

IMO the biggest influence on the RHG's coaching philosophy is Jimmy Johnson. He has always gone with the 4-3 and Jason probably has been trying to get Jerrah to let him have it. Monte Kiffin (and Marinelli) is one of the beast 4-3 coaches ever, so he believes (as do I) he is the right person to do the job.