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02-18-2013
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The Proletariat
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Originally Posted by CanadianCowboysFan
You know what I mean. When I discuss laws in the US, I am told to shut my piehole because it doesn't concern me.
Bull fighting and the law allowing bull fighting has no effect on you nor is it being performed in the US so should you all not shut your pie holes given it doesn't concern you?
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Kill a bull, tell a Canadian to mind his own business, it's all the same.
When you discuss morals you dismiss a definitive code of morals, claiming all are subject to the view point of the individual. This takes any sort of protest against either bull fighting or how you're treated out of your mouth.
To each his own, no?
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02-18-2013
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#17
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Benched
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Originally Posted by jnday
Very good point. The end result is the same, steaks.
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Torture?
Barbaric sport if you can call it a sport. I have no time for it.
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02-18-2013
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#18
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Lightning Rod
Joined: | Apr 2004 |
Location: | Vancouver BC |
Posts: | 14,080 |
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Originally Posted by vta
Kill a bull, tell a Canadian to mind his own business, it's all the same.
When you discuss morals you dismiss a definitive code of morals, claiming all are subject to the view point of the individual. This takes any sort of protest against either bull fighting or how you're treated out of your mouth.
To each his own, no?
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You wanting to change the law about allowing bull fights is no different than when I say a US law should change. The subject might be different but the issue is the same. Someone in another country telling another how they should govern.
Now if you are ok with furriners telling you how the US should be governed or what laws you should have on the books, then great, but if you aren't and would be upset with a Mexican or a Spaniard complaining about one of your laws, then you are being hypocritical n'est ce pas?
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02-18-2013
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#19
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The Proletariat
Joined: | Dec 2004 |
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Originally Posted by CanadianCowboysFan
You wanting to change the law about allowing bull fights is no different than when I say a US law should change. The subject might be different but the issue is the same. Someone in another country telling another how they should govern.
Now if you are ok with furriners telling you how the US should be governed or what laws you should have on the books, then great, but if you aren't and would be upset with a Mexican or a Spaniard complaining about one of your laws, then you are being hypocritical n'est ce pas?
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I don't want to change a law about bullfighting; I'm not offended by it nor bothered. I was busting your chops for being a moral equivalest... if that's even a word.
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02-18-2013
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#20
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Pixel Pusher
Joined: | Aug 2007 |
Location: | New York, NY |
Posts: | 19,585 |
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Originally Posted by jnday
I think the US is bothered a little more than most countries with these types of things. I guess I am numb to a good bit of it myself. Being raised around a good many small farms, I wasn't shielded from the rough side of animal-human relationships. That is the nicest way that I could say that without getting graphic.
Many countries have blood sports as entertainment. It is just part of their culture. I can respect that.
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There's slaughter and there's torture. I don't know a farmer in the world who gets off on torturing his livestock.
We need wins, and that's all we need. I don't give a damn about anyone on this roster over wins. I'd trade Ware, Lee and Dez if it meant more wins.
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02-18-2013
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#21
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Senior Member
Joined: | Oct 2008 |
Posts: | 1,012 |
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Lets just say that i cheer for the bull.
Bye Free and Bernadeau.
Bye Austin and Ogletree.
Bye Sensy and McCray.
Bye Garrett.
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02-19-2013
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#22
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Messenger to the football Gods
Joined: | Feb 2005 |
Posts: | 10,195 |
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Originally Posted by ConcordCowboy
The Bull got in his shots too...

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Yes he did.
AS: Cowboys ice their own kicker in 19-13 OT loss
“That is one of the luxuries of my position as owner as well as the ultimate decision maker, general manager and president – I can do that and take the losses and come back for more,” Jones said.
God help us...............
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02-19-2013
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#23
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Senior Member
Joined: | Apr 2004 |
Location: | Location, locati |
Posts: | 807 |
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TheCount
There's slaughter and there's torture. I don't know a farmer in the world who gets off on torturing his livestock.
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Nor is there a farmer who treats his livestock like these bulls are treated, they lead a charmed live up to the fight and should they prove worthy lead a charmed one after too. Besides you would erradicate a whole species should you outlaw bullfighting, these animals are bred solely for this purpose, no bullfights no more "toros de lidia".
Zone is to Message boards what golf is to a good walk.
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02-19-2013
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#24
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Senior Member
Joined: | Apr 2004 |
Location: | Dallas/Lakewood |
Posts: | 4,020 |
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It's a blood sport, expected from savages.
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02-19-2013
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#25
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Lightning Rod
Joined: | Apr 2004 |
Location: | Vancouver BC |
Posts: | 14,080 |
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CliffnMesquite
It's a blood sport, expected from savages.
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Like MMA? 
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02-19-2013
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#26
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Senior Member
Joined: | Mar 2012 |
Location: | Austin TX/SJ CA |
Posts: | 1,822 |
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CanadianCowboysFan
Like MMA? 
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Like Gregg Williams football.
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02-19-2013
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#27
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Senior Member
Joined: | Apr 2010 |
Posts: | 4,042 |
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CliffnMesquite
It's a blood sport, expected from savages.
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At one time, cockfights were held in the White House. Are we savages?
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02-19-2013
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#28
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Senior Member
Joined: | Apr 2010 |
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Quote:
Originally Posted by L-O-Jete
Nor is there a farmer who treats his livestock like these bulls are treated, they lead a charmed live up to the fight and should they prove worthy lead a charmed one after too. Besides you would erradicate a whole species should you outlaw bullfighting, these animals are bred solely for this purpose, no bullfights no more "toros de lidia".
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It is the same situation with gamecocks. They are treated better than any other chickens.
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02-19-2013
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#29
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Senior Member
Joined: | Apr 2004 |
Location: | Dallas/Lakewood |
Posts: | 4,020 |
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CanadianCowboysFan
Like MMA? 
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Exactly. Rome lives.
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02-19-2013
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#30
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Senior Member
Joined: | Apr 2004 |
Location: | Dallas/Lakewood |
Posts: | 4,020 |
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jnday
At one time, cockfights were held in the White House. Are we savages?
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We are all savages at the core.
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