O-line risers and sliders: Luke Joeckel fails to impress - Page 2 - Dallas Cowboys Forum

BAT · 02-25-2013

Joeckel will do better at his pro day. So will others like Warmack, Fluker and Warford. The boards will change yet again.

Then again when teams start looking at tape again. Then again when the teams do their invites. Combine is not the be all and end all folks.

**Idgit** · 02-25-2013

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Originally Posted by Gaede

Me too. That fan base has suffered for a long time and they get in a position to greatly improve their franchise, and their options are just terrible.

A tackle who nobody is really in love with, couple pass rushers that have serious medical conditions, and a QB who would normally be a second round pick.

And who is going to trade with them? There's nobody at the top to move up for.

Not really, huh? Maybe if there's a team in position to lose a good player at a position of need who's got a balloon in his contract? Take on that headache and swap picks in a small package and move way down? Problem is, even in that scenario, there's not really a standout player at any position an established team is really going to covet. There's really almost no where to go with that pick, at all. They just have to take the safest pick possible, and have it hurt their cap going forward.

**ABQCOWBOY** · 02-26-2013

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Originally Posted by InmanRoshi

Has to sting even more looking at next year's class. I would take Clowney, Manziel, Bridgewater, Lee, Lewan and Tuitt over anyone in this class.

I don't know about Manziel. His actual Height is a big question at this point. I know everybody is going to say what about Russell Wilson and I get that but I don't know if Manziel is Wilson. Wilson I really liked coming out. Remains to be seen if Manziel will be Wilson IMO.

Shinywalrus · 02-26-2013

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Originally Posted by InmanRoshi

Has to sting even more looking at next year's class. I would take Clowney, Manziel, Bridgewater, Lee, Lewan and Tuitt over anyone in this class.

Clowney is the only one in that group that I'm sure about that on.

Fisher and Lewan feel like comparables to me. Manziel I'm not sure I'd spend a #2 pick on. Not sure I'd take Tuitt over Floyd or Richardson today.

I agree in general that the top of this draft is soft, but I feel like that has more to do with the lack of a step-change between the top 4-5 picks and picks 15-20. I feel better about the talent in picks 15-60 than in any draft in recent memory, so to me having a top 10 pick this year is more about optionality - you get the guy that you want rather than taking an equally talented guy that you have to follow the board on. Doesn't mean there's a huge drop in talent, but there's still some value to being high.

**jobberone** · 02-26-2013

I think the split and 40 are important for teams that want to run screens and pull a lot. Being able to get downfield and block keeping in front of your RB is important IMO.