Are Some Positions Not Worthy Of a First Round Pick?

[Derinyar]

I think you can draft any position high. It just depends on the player. One person was arguing that you shouldn't draft a WR in the first round. I'd counter with Calvin Johnson, AJ Green, Dez, Julio Jones, Fitgerald and I'm sure I'm missing more that are good. Its about the player and their talent/drive not the position of the player, with the exception of kicker. I'd probably lean toward saying that TE probably shouldn't be a 1st round pick, the guys picked in round 1 seem to fail more then a lot of the other 1st rounders.

[CaptainMorgan]

Originally Posted by lostar2009

there are 2 te's with first round grades

I wouldnt spend a 1st on a TE regardless of their grades though.

[SWG9]

Originally Posted by JoeyBoy718

Call me crazy but (unless a guy is a phenomenal talent) I wouldn't draft RB, WR, TE, OG, OC, S, CB, NT in the first round. Late first round is different. But an early or mid first rounder, I would only draft QB, LT, pass rushing DL or LB, or a play making LB in the 1st. Interior OL, skill position offensive players, secondary, and gap filling NTs can be had in later rounds.

The problem is everyone else in the league wants to do exactly the same thing because those are the premium positions. There are only a handful of guys that come out each year at the those positions that are worthy of a 1st round pick, and they all go quite high.

Obviously things change from year to year depending on the overall talent pool in the draft, but once you get out of the top 12-15 picks or so, IMO, the only goal should be to draft a player that's starter quality, regardless of position.

Anything beyond that is gravy.

[TwoDeep3]

Draft rounds really speak about compensation. When fans speak about wasting a first round pick, these are some of the same fans that are ready to trade out of the first round for extra picks because an extra second and fourth is twice as good as a first.

But in truth two lesser players do not always, or even mostly equate to one great player, as long as your team is taking a great player.

Montana was a third round pick. But if you put Montana on the Raider's team and expected him to win four championships with their go deep mentality, you'd find he was not all that. Smart player that was fairly accurate. But not the type of player that would challenge a team deep consistently.

So the notion of draft slotting is more about what the team gives up in compensation. And to a degree that also has to do with the position they play.

Position of need is a code word for some. But teams do draft for need in the realm of targeting players. For instance they may need a guard, tackle, safety or defensive lineman. They may draft in those areas, which is drafting for need, but they also triage those needs and will draft out of their primary need to get a better player than what is available at their primary need.

My personal belief is trading down does not always mean making the right decision. it depends on who is doing the picking.

One might suggest if it is Bill Belichek, then trading down is a pretty solid deal.

There are other GMs that trading down is just getting an extra helping of turd.

[CowboysYanksLakers]

The overall talent in this year's draft sucks....

[lostar2009]

Originally Posted by CowboysYanksLakers

The overall talent in this year's draft sucks....

There is no elite talent but it has a lot of what dallas need s,ol,dl.. real deep

[jterrell]

kicker, punter, fullback never in round 1.

te, rb, og, oc almost never.

all of those positions would have grading penalties for me.

kicker, punter, fullback would top out at about 80-85 points.

te, rb, og, oc would top out at about 90 points.
that's no higher than mid first round.

[GloryDaysRBack]

Originally Posted by CowboysYanksLakers

The overall talent in this year's draft sucks....

you clearly know nothing about this years draft

this draft is super deep

[AMERICAS_FAN]

Deep Snapper!

[jchap]

Only players worth taking in the first round are WRs and CBs since they run the fastest 40s

[FuzzyLumpkins]

To me it's all about the bust rate. TE and OG normally have a better success rate than other positions. I would have no issue drafting one or the other is the grade was right.

Other positions are overdrafted. QB, WR and DL are especially worrisome in that regard. If you are drafting at the top of the draft then that is one thing. OTOH, if you are in the middle rounds and the pickings are thinned out then I would be reluctant to draft those positions.

WR especially. Dez may very well work out in a big way but I absolutely hated that trade.

[jterrell]

Originally Posted by FuzzyLumpkins

To me it's all about the bust rate. TE and OG normally have a better success rate than other positions. I would have no issue drafting one or the other is the grade was right.

Other positions are overdrafted. QB, WR and DL are especially worrisome in that regard. If you are drafting at the top of the draft then that is one thing. OTOH, if you are in the middle rounds and the pickings are thinned out then I would be reluctant to draft those positions.

WR especially. Dez may very well work out in a big way but I absolutely hated that trade.

Bust rate is high on other positions as well. At least as far as meeting blue chip status. We are talking about the team that draft David LeFluer.

At OG:
In the Pro Bowl Mankins was chosen 31st overall, th eother two AFC OGs were 3rd round picks.
In the NFC is was 1 1st rounder, 1 4th and 1 2nd.

So all these other 1st round OGs didn't make it.

If I am drafting an OG in round 1 he better be a regular in Pro Bowls.

[ThreeandOut]

There are certain positions that I wouldn't be inclined to select with a 1st round pick (RB, TE, OG, LB) because the positions tend to fall on draft day and you can usually get good value in later rounds.

But I might use a 1st round pick on one of these positions if I were selecting late in the round, if I had a 1st round grade on the player, and all my other players with 1st round grades were off the board.

[MonsterD]

Originally Posted by CaptainMorgan

TE, FB, punter kicker

TE? Have you seen Vernon Davis ever play? He burns CBs for TDs.

[MonsterD]

Just to note DTs and WR fare pretty bad in the 1st round. Just noting that.