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02-26-2013
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#16
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Originally Posted by Bluestang
It could be Kiffin had less talent to work with considering those sanctions USC had to go through.
USC has only produced 3 first round draft picks from 2010 - 2012. Matt Kalil, Nick Perry, and Tyron Smith.
In 2012 they only had 3 players enter the NFL vs 9 in 2011 and 7 in 2010. Of those players only 7 of those were defensive players. (7 of 19) Of those 7 only one, Nick Perry, was a 1st round selection and the other was a 2nd rounder - Taylor Mays.
In contrast, in 2009 Brian Cushing, Clay Matthews, and Rey Maualuga all were selected in the 1st and 2nd rounds.
Just look at the history and you can pretty easily see how the USC sanctions caused problems.
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AFAIK reports never came out that Kiffin didn't have the talent to work with, all the stories were that he was unable to effectively communicate his scheme to his players.
victory is ours
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02-26-2013
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#17
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Good, bad, I'm the guy with the gun.
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Originally Posted by Hoofbite
You whisper when you speak, and thus force people to try and hear what you are saying.
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OK. I actually laughed out loud at that one. Nice.
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02-26-2013
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#18
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Credit goes to Jason Garrett for having the wherewithal to look past the age issue and hire a great coach like Kiffin.
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Trent Dilfer: "Tony [Romo] has greatness in him. I think when you talk to other people that really play the quarterback position, there's a few guys that really have incredible greatness in them, and Tony is one of them. I think the issue here is he needs more help from his teammates. I think they are not nearly as talented as people say they are, from 1 to 53. I'm talking about the total roster.”
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02-26-2013
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#19
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Ok, just a minute here. A few years ago, our defense was being laughed at, made fun of by QB's though out the league. Good QB's said we were predictable; as the QB approached the LOS he knew exactly where to go to make good plays. They bought in new coaches to make us unpredictable. Now, are we going back to being predictable, with our blitzes be picked up each and every time, with holes wide enough to drive a pickup through? I am scared of "the old man" and the "old ways". Another wasted couple of years?
Hope they prove me wrong, but I think that is about a 20% chance.
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02-26-2013
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#20
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Good, bad, I'm the guy with the gun.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by superpunk
AFAIK reports never came out that Kiffin didn't have the talent to work with, all the stories were that he was unable to effectively communicate his scheme to his players.
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Well perhaps NYKB
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02-26-2013
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#21
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Shrinkage
Years Donated 2007, 2008, 2010, 2011, 2012
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Chuck 54
Reasons to hope, but until it translates to winning games, it's just hype.
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This.....
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02-26-2013
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#22
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Quote:
Originally Posted by fan62
Ok, just a minute here. A few years ago, our defense was being laughed at, made fun of by QB's though out the league. Good QB's said we were predictable; as the QB approached the LOS he knew exactly where to go to make good plays. They bought in new coaches to make us unpredictable. Now, are we going back to being predictable, with our blitzes be picked up each and every time, with holes wide enough to drive a pickup through? I am scared of "the old man" and the "old ways". Another wasted couple of years?
Hope they prove me wrong, but I think that is about a 20% chance.
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So were the seahawks and bears predictable?
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"The restructures are built in. Everybody’s making a big to do about this. I don’t know why."- Stephen Jones
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02-26-2013
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#23
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if Monte gets our D creating a lot of turnovers, esp INTs from our DBs, he will be a humongous upgrade. Also like for him to keep Lane far far away from our team, that guy is a cancer.
Still left to accomplish:
sign OT Winston or G Moore
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02-26-2013
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#24
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It's hard to believe that anyone is complaining about the defensive coaching staff with Kiffin and Marinelli.
The Cowboys have a lot of issues and many valid reasons to complain, but this does not seem to be one of them.
You don’t know what you don’t know.
Half of the population has below average intelligence.
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02-26-2013
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#25
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Senior Member
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Hoofbite
You whisper when you speak, and thus force people to try and hear what you are saying.
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 makes sense. Might try it
Possible Free Agents
Offensive Line
In Callahan we trust til further notice
Defensive Line
In Marinelli we trust till further notice
GO COWBOYS!
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02-26-2013
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#26
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"You Want Some?"
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Quote:
Originally Posted by xwalker
It's hard to believe that anyone is complaining about the defensive coaching staff with Kiffin and Marinelli.
The Cowboys have a lot of issues and many valid reasons to complain, but this does not seem to be one of them.
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Agreed.
It's a very good defensive staff.
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02-26-2013
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#27
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MichaelWinicki
Agreed.
It's a very good defensive staff.
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So happy to have Marinelli
Possible Free Agents
Offensive Line
In Callahan we trust til further notice
Defensive Line
In Marinelli we trust till further notice
GO COWBOYS!
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02-26-2013
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#28
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Fat, drunk and stupid is no way to go through life, son
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Quote:
Originally Posted by fan62
Ok, just a minute here. A few years ago, our defense was being laughed at, made fun of by QB's though out the league. Good QB's said we were predictable; as the QB approached the LOS he knew exactly where to go to make good plays. They bought in new coaches to make us unpredictable. Now, are we going back to being predictable, with our blitzes be picked up each and every time, with holes wide enough to drive a pickup through? I am scared of "the old man" and the "old ways". Another wasted couple of years?
Hope they prove me wrong, but I think that is about a 20% chance.
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Predictable isn't necessarily a bad thing.
The strength of the cover-2 4-3 isn't that it's confusing for the offense, but that it's difficult to exploit. You have to be patient and precise against it.
Defenses like Phillips' 3-4 can't afford to be predictable because that opens up big-play opportunities.
"'Room' always makes me chuckle. That's irrelevant. What we have on a given day really doesn't relate to what you're ultimately going to have and how you're going to manage."
Stephen Jones on salary cap limitations
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02-26-2013
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#29
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Senior Member
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Quote:
Originally Posted by xwalker
It's hard to believe that anyone is complaining about the defensive coaching staff with Kiffin and Marinelli.
The Cowboys have a lot of issues and many valid reasons to complain, but this does not seem to be one of them.
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It's not hard to believe for me. One, I prefer the 3-4. It's a superior scheme, IMO.
Two, Kiffin's bones are like pretzels. He's been out of the league for a few years and there's really no telling how much energy and sanity he's got left. I don't question his past. It's his present and future. The clock's ticking on Romo. To make a defensive scheme switch right now and the transition that goes with that, doesn't seem like a great idea.
Three, with Jason Garrett facing a win or else season, nobody's going to convince me he was the driving force behind this move. I think this was the owner and his son thinking they know better and the head coach rolling over and showing his freckled belly. If I'm right, it's set up to fail. I don't care about sound bites from the team after the fact. It simply doesn't pass the smell test that Garrett decided to add a defensive scheme change and transitional period to his plate entering a season where clearly his job is on the line.
The owner talked about making people uncomfortable. That's what he was referring to. A Jerry Jones driven offseason has never worked.
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We'll settle this with a good dust up.
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02-26-2013
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#30
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Joined: | Apr 2005 |
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Quote:
Originally Posted by xwalker
It's hard to believe that anyone is complaining about the defensive coaching staff with Kiffin and Marinelli.
The Cowboys have a lot of issues and many valid reasons to complain, but this does not seem to be one of them.
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