A Radically Different Plan for the Cowboys - Page 3 - Dallas Cowboys Forum

T-RO · 02-28-2013

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Originally Posted by CowboyStar88

So to claim the books are not "right" is hogwash.

I know absolutely, positively, categorically that every dollar we are "saving" (what a perversely misapplied phrase) on the cap today...with all of these restructuring deals...we will owe in the future.

There are no guesses about this. There is no doubt. Short of the NFL killing the salary cap it is as certain as gravity.

Just like it is now with dead contracts...and our current cap purgatory...it will persist in seasons to come: We will end up with less available in the cap than everyone else.

I'm not guessing. I'm not speculating. I KNOW THIS. And one more thing I absolutely KNOW:

If you compound our current cap duress with giving Romo one of the biggest contracts in the NFL...We will be hamstrung for years.

We would be forced to watch some of our best players walk at the end of their contract...and be paralyzed to sign any meaningful FAs.

T-RO · 02-28-2013

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Originally Posted by Chocolate Lab

Maybe this is Jerry's thinking in keeping Garrett around one more year.

C-Lab...I almost always agree with you about the Cowboy Cingdom... but I don't understand your perspective about Jason.

I'm not dogmatic about it. Ready to be proven wrong...but I don't see Carrot Top as the problem.

T-RO · 02-28-2013

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Originally Posted by weaver21

So we trade Romo, but keep Witten and Ware around for a season that would be miserable for them? If you're gonna trade Romo, then you're gonna have to trade Witten and Ware too. This plan of yours isn't gonna win us a Super Bowl anytime soon and Witten and Ware deserve to at least win one so you might as well trade them to a contender because they don't deserve to suffer through a 3-13 season.

I'd be willing to consider trading Ware and Witten.

FuzzyLumpkins · 02-28-2013

Another claims about cap doom in the future and no attempt to actually account for any of it.

You would be a terrible GM for no other reason that you rely on gross generalizations and guessing instead of knowing what you are talking about.

T-RO · 02-28-2013

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Originally Posted by WoodysGirl

The assumption is that you can get a 1, 2, AND 3 for Romo.

That assumption would affect every other decision/opinion/assumption in the scenario outlined.

True. I'd probably be willing to do the trade even for just a first round and a second.

In EROD's thread he spoke of some in-the-know who think we could get a first rounder and two second-round picks.

T-RO · 02-28-2013

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Originally Posted by FuzzyLumpkins

Another claims about cap doom in the future and no attempt to actually account for any of it.

You would be a terrible GM for no other reason that you rely on gross generalizations and guessing instead of knowing what you are talking about.

I know EXACTLY what I'm talking about at the Macro level. We are in cap hell RIGHT NOW...scrambling around with our credit card, pushing our due dates back. As has been widely stated...we have no meaningful money to be a player in this year's free agency.

T-RO · 02-28-2013

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Originally Posted by theebs

And raise your hands if u think this front office can find a franchise qb.

Jerry would love to draft a bright shiny quarterback. We just need to be drafting at the top. Top 3. There are no guarantees, but that is our best hope.

We need to suck for a year. We need to suck bad.

Meanwhile, I'll still be a fan of Romo where-ever he ends up playing.

dware94 · 02-28-2013

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Originally Posted by T-RO

I know EXACTLY what I'm talking about at the Macro level. We are in cap hell RIGHT NOW...scrambling around with our credit card, pushing our due dates back. As has been widely stated...we have no meaningful money to be a player in this year's free agency.

This is the case for a lot of teams. We were active in the FA market last year, which means we need to fill our holes in the draft this year. Just because you have money to spend in FA doesnt always make you better, just ask Tampa Bay how that worked out last year.

Muhast · 02-28-2013

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Originally Posted by Proximo

Any plan that's based around sucking and tanking in the immediate future is ridiculous for where this team is right now. They are only a few pieces away from making a run, and they've already gotten younger and better over the last 2 offseasons. Trading Romo for draft picks that might be busts is ridiculous at this point. Maybe when he's washed up, but not now. That's just silly.

So glad fans dont have a say so. They think jerry is bad? Imaginr one of us running it. It would be ten tines worse. Every player that gets in trouble would instantly get cut regardless of the cap ramifications. We would sign every player who is cut by another team (as proven by the hundreds of "should we sign ______" threads).

T-RO · 02-28-2013

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Originally Posted by dware94

This is the case for a lot of teams. We were active in the FA market last year, which means we need to fill our holes in the draft this year. Just because you have money to spend in FA doesnt always make you better, just ask Tampa Bay how that worked out last year.

Aside from the Skins there aren't many teams like Dallas that were faced with a $20 million dollar hole.

I agree that FA is no miracle cure. I'd prefer to invest in keeping our own (though in recent years we haven't drafted enough good players for this to be an issue.)

T-RO · 02-28-2013

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Originally Posted by Muhast

So glad fans dont have a say so. They think jerry is bad? Imaginr one of us running it. It would be ten tines worse.

I suspect there are at least a few dozen fans here with a higher IQ than Jerry. And at this point, with his age and alcohol addled brain...his functional IQ is eroding by the day. Can the guy even complete a coherent sentence?

But worse than his IQ...it's Jerry's multiple bad habits that make him a train-wreck of a GM: short term thinking, refusal to cut bait on his mistakes, moth-to-the-flame love of shiny draft picks....and of course the biggie: his unwillingness to step out of the way.

Muhast · 02-28-2013

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Originally Posted by T-RO

Aside from the Skins there aren't many teams like Dallas that were faced with a $20 million dollar hole.

I agree that FA is no miracle cure. I'd prefer to invest in keeping our own (though in recent years we haven't drafted enough good players for this to be an issue.)

Pittsburgh Steelers, new york jets, and saints are all pretty far over too. But your point is correct, not to many others are as far over

WPBCowboysFan · 02-28-2013

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Originally Posted by T-RO

Here is what I would do if I were GM. It is radically different than what we'll likely see from Valley Ranch.

1. I'd have absorbed the necessary big hit in salary cap and gotten my books in order so that the future is clean. What's happening now with all these renegotiations is going to bleed us for years to come. And indeed I'd go further, in clearing out aging and dead wood (Austin, Free, etc)

2. If I could get somebody's 1, 2 and 3 for Romo --slightly less than has been suggested--I'd do that.

3. I'd make everybody angry and unhappy about the '13 season, but the team would be far better in the longterm. Without Romo we would be a 3-13 team. That's perfect.

4. I'd be willing to stink in 2013. I'd WANT to stink in 2013. Then next March we snag the pick of the litter of the young QBs. We'd have a high 2, a high 3, etc.

Consider where my plan would seat us:
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Pretty lame plan.

Maybe it sounds good in a fantasy world, but its only worth considering if it is a plan that has no chance at failure, and thats not the real world.

FuzzyLumpkins · 02-28-2013

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Originally Posted by T-RO

I know EXACTLY what I'm talking about at the Macro level. We are in cap hell RIGHT NOW...scrambling around with our credit card, pushing our due dates back. As has been widely stated...we have no meaningful money to be a player in this year's free agency.

uh huh.

What is our cap status next year between dead money and contracts on the books. What about next year?

Heck, what about this year?

A generalization is not macro. When economists talk about GDP they still have a specific number behind it.

Just stop. You don't know and that is okay.

Risen Star · 02-28-2013

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Originally Posted by ufcrules1

That is funny.. you are so torn. You know we desperately need to beef up the lines before we will have a chance to go anywhere (Even with a franchise qb) yet you love Romo so much you can't stomach trading him. This is where your head has to make the decision and not your heart. Jerry makes decisions with his heart and that is why we have been pathetic for 17 years.

I don't know how you got that from my response. I said nothing about my heart. I don't love any of these players. I love the team.

My head is saying Romo is a legitimate franchise QB and it's really hard to find those kinds of guys. I probably wouldn't be against this kind of approach of flushing the roster, getting the cap fixed and loading up on as many picks as possible to build a new contender, but trading Romo would scare me. I don't take him for granted. He's a winner saddled with the worst owner/GM in sports.