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03-01-2013
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Compensation Picks
Anyone familiar with how this process works ? If we lose Jenkins , f jones , and Anthony spencer this offseason that's 3 first round picks . I would think we would be rewarded with some great extra 3rd or 4th rounders next year ?
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Originally Posted by Pessimist_cowboy
Anyone familiar with how this process works ? If we lose Jenkins , f jones , and Anthony spencer this offseason that's 3 first round picks . I would think we would be rewarded with some great extra 3rd or 4th rounders next year ?
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don't know the answer but that right there is concerning
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yet another example of how poorly Jones has drafted and managed the cap.
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it depends on the contracts those guys get, their production, and what free agent signing we may do which offset the FA losses as part of the equation. really no way to determine anything at this point.
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Originally Posted by sunbum
don't know the answer but that right there is concerning
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Not neccessarily. Spencer would normally be re-signed, so it's not like he is a bust. Jenkins isn't a bad player either (though he is soft), he just can't stay healthy.
Felix Jones is the only true bust of the three.
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Originally Posted by Oh_Canada
Not neccessarily. Spencer would normally be re-signed, so it's not like he is a bust. Jenkins isn't a bad player either (though he is soft), he just can't stay healthy.
Felix Jones is the only true bust of the three.
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true....meant more so that we are at risk of losing 3 players that we spent 3 first round picks to acquire.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Pessimist_cowboy
Anyone familiar with how this process works ? If we lose Jenkins , f jones , and Anthony spencer this offseason that's 3 first round picks . I would think we would be rewarded with some great extra 3rd or 4th rounders next year ?
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It would depend on if we sign any unrestricted free agents ourselves, and how big of a contract or UFA's get. Spencer could likely net us a 3rd rounder, the rest maybe 7th's.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sunbum
true....meant more so that we are at risk of losing 3 players that we spent 3 first round picks to acquire.
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Great teams do this as well and it's not an issue. The Patriots hvae let Brandon Meriweather, aurence Maroney, and Benjamin Watson all walk at the end of contracts and it hasn't impacted them. The key is to lock up your core players and be good enough in the other rounds to easily reload.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sunbum
don't know the answer but that right there is concerning
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If they walk there will be a gap that ranges from 2005 to 2010 of no 1st round picks still on the roster.
And we wonder why we can't get over the hump...
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Oh_Canada
Not neccessarily. Spencer would normally be re-signed, so it's not like he is a bust. Jenkins isn't a bad player either (though he is soft), he just can't stay healthy.
Felix Jones is the only true bust of the three.
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We have a number in mind for Spencer and will not exceed that, we have the money if he chooses to accept that number. He turned it on in a contract year but outside of that he's been an average player throughout his career. It's important to keep that in mind during contract negotiations and I'm glad to see the FO is doing that and not being blinding from this last season.
And the FO thought so highly of Jenkins that they shelled out a 50 million dollar contract for Carr and traded up to the 6th spot to ensure he wouldn't start this year. He's a bust.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rocboy22
it depends on the contracts those guys get, their production, and what free agent signing we may do which offset the FA losses as part of the equation. really no way to determine anything at this point.
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That's the right answer.
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We'll settle this with a good dust up.
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Originally Posted by Risen Star
That's the right answer.
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don't know much on the workings of this.....is it a quantitative or qualitative type determination?
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TheFinisher
If they walk there will be a gap that ranges from 2005 to 2010 of no 1st round picks still on the roster.
And we wonder why we can't get over the hump...
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I saw a tweet from Bob Sturm that said they Cowboys have not traded a player on their roster for a 1st, 2nd or 3rd round pick since Jimmy Johnson was the coach.
That's just incompetent GMing.
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We'll settle this with a good dust up.
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03-01-2013
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TheFinisher
We have a number in mind for Spencer and will not exceed that, we have the money if he chooses to accept that number. He turned it on in a contract year but outside of that he's been an average player throughout his career. It's important to keep that in mind during contract negotiations and I'm glad to see the FO is doing that and not being blinding from this last season.
And the FO thought so highly of Jenkins that they shelled out a 50 million dollar contract for Carr and traded up to the 6th spot to ensure he wouldn't start this year. He's a bust.
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I disagree on Spencer and you'll see NFL teams think highly of him as well by the size of his contract. He is one of the very best 3-4 strong side linebackers in football.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sunbum
don't know much on the workings of this.....is it a quantitative or qualitative type determination?
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I believe both. I think the size of the contracts involved also matter.
Since we'll most likely be sitting out this FA, I'd expect a comp pick or two next year.
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We'll settle this with a good dust up.
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