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Old 03-04-2013   #16
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yea but hes the BPA as some people put it

no O line men or DT

I trade down a bit an grab him

its not like we can trust Murray

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you can't tell me Jerry would not jump at the chance to get a reliable RB

Eddie Lacy is ready to come in and carry the load on the ground from day one. He’ll churn out tough yards and be as efficient as you could ask. He may not break off as many long runs in the league, but his subtle agility and elusiveness will be enough to consistently move the sticks. Lacy is a perfect fit for a power running game and has all the talent to go in the late first round or early second round.
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yea but hes the BPA as some people put it

no O line men or DT

I trade down a bit an grab him

its not like we can trust Murray

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you can't tell me Jerry would not jump at the chance to get a reliable RB

Eddie Lacy is ready to come in and carry the load on the ground from day one. He’ll churn out tough yards and be as efficient as you could ask. He may not break off as many long runs in the league, but his subtle agility and elusiveness will be enough to consistently move the sticks. Lacy is a perfect fit for a power running game and has all the talent to go in the late first round or early second round.
During his time at Alabama, Lacy ran behind a terrific O-Line. While I'm not doubting his ability, any RB we get has to have a quality O-Line to run behind. Until that issue is addressed, we won't see a quality power running game, no matter who we get at RB.
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If we are going RB why not go for the homerun with Lattimore?
You do realize he is coming back from a major injury?
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I could make a very long list of successful NFL running backs who ran a 4.6 (or worse) 40 at the combine but I just don't have that kind of time. Watch the game not and form your opinions, not off season workouts. Bell has quick explosive feet, good vision, and is a load to bring down. He's got a good shot of being a very successful RB in the NFL.
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I could make a very long list of successful NFL running backs who ran a 4.6 (or worse) 40 at the combine but I just don't have that kind of time. Watch the game not and form your opinions, not off season workouts. Bell has quick explosive feet, good vision, and is a load to bring down. He's got a good shot of being a very successful RB in the NFL.
I could make a very long list of unsuccessful NFL running backs that came out of the Big 10 in the last decade. Watch the game and what looks good in the Big 10 doesn't translate to the NFL.
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I could make a very long list of unsuccessful NFL running backs that came out of the Big 10 in the last decade. Watch the game and what looks good in the Big 10 doesn't translate to the NFL.
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During his time at Alabama, Lacy ran behind a terrific O-Line. While I'm not doubting his ability, any RB we get has to have a quality O-Line to run behind. Until that issue is addressed, we won't see a quality power running game, no matter who we get at RB.
So I guess Minn has a great O l.ine ?


Cough Cough
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no teams would touch a QB from the $EC because of the long string of flops (JaMarcus Russell, Tim Tebow, etc.....)Yeah, Eli Manning has been good but really who else? It's a flawed and ridiculous logic guys and if you're as smart as you claim you will admit that. Bell isn't going to be a superstar but he's going to be a VERY nice compliment to a speed back like Murray in Dallas or Johnson in Tennessee.....
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So I guess Minn has a great O l.ine ?


Cough Cough
Cough all you want. The Vikings are built to run, largely because they have a freakishly great RB and no passing attack. Their problems are around WR's and Cb's and around the fact that Ponder may not be an NFL caliber QB.
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For 3rd/4th/5tg Round RB's I like Christine Michael, Andre Ellington, and Mike Gillislee a whole lot better than Bell.. And you can some solid guys like Mike James out of Miami undrafted
Ellington was slowed by an injury and that's his problem. Fast dynamic runner with ability to go the distance any play. He just can't stay healthy. I'd stay away from him.
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no teams would touch a QB from the $EC because of the long string of flops (JaMarcus Russell, Tim Tebow, etc.....)Yeah, Eli Manning has been good but really who else? It's a flawed and ridiculous logic guys and if you're as smart as you claim you will admit that. Bell isn't going to be a superstar but he's going to be a VERY nice compliment to a speed back like Murray in Dallas or Johnson in Tennessee.....
I don't see NFL teams going out of their way to draft SEC QBs in the early rounds, so it strengthens my point about Big10 RBs.
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I don't see NFL teams going out of their way to draft SEC QBs in the early rounds, so it strengthens my point about Big10 RBs.


...was a few years ago, but Johnny Manziel of A&M has the NFL drooling already. Your point is a poor one and simply not true. Marion Barber was very good for us for a few years and wore down quickly because he didn't listen to Emmitt and get out of bounds on runs earlier. He went to Minnesota obviously. Bell of MSU is going to be a good one a VERY good one and I'll bump this thread when I'm proven right. You should know by now that NFL talent isn't predicated by conference. That's just laughable. If you can play, you can play no matter the position or conference.
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...was a few years ago, but Johnny Manziel of A&M has the NFL drooling already. Your point is a poor one and simply not true. Marion Barber was very good for us for a few years and wore down quickly because he didn't listen to Emmitt and get out of bounds on runs earlier. He went to Minnesota obviously. Bell of MSU is going to be a good one a VERY good one and I'll bump this thread when I'm proven right. You should know by now that NFL talent isn't predicated by conference. That's just laughable. If you can play, you can play no matter the position or conference.
Well, my opinion of him is not solely based on what conference he plays in. It isn't even the top reason. It is among the several reasons I don't think he will be a truly good back. Now, he could possibly be a decent back up, but I am not using a 1st, 2nd or 3rd rounder on him.

Russell was a flop and I don't think teams were lining up to grab him, only the Raiders. Are NFL teams really drooling over Manziel? There is no proof of that. That is more media and fans at this stage. Besides A&M is still a hybrid Big 12/SEC team. And of course, there are always exceptions. Bell is not going to be that exception at the RB position. Feel free to bump away.
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so what if Lacy is there at 18 ?
He will be...but I'm not taking him.

If he's still there when we pick in the 2nd, I'd think about it.
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Not sure what the fascination with Bell is.. Was a good college player but kid ran a 4.6... not easy to succeed in the NFL as a HB with tight end speed.
Bell is 6'2" 244lbs, he's an H-back playing running back. He's bigger than Aaron Hernandez. 4.6 at that size isn't bad, and he's plenty athletic.
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