Scandrick restructured

[Gaede]

Originally Posted by Wood

Are cowboys stock piling mediocrity?

That's us in a nutshell.

Too scared to let players go that are good enough to breakeven in the NFL. Too fast to overpay those who are better than terrible.

[ninja]

Originally Posted by Wood

I still can't get my hands around how a team could be desperate to get under salary cap who has been .500 for past two years. Are cowboys stock piling mediocrity?

I would hardly describe the overall talent of a lot of the Cowboys as mediocre. However, their record the past two years has been mediocre. That only leaves coaching since injuries aren't an excuse. Garrett has been mediocre at best, many times much closer to downright putrid.

[weaver21]

This thread has become another disaster... what a shocker.

[Picksix]

Originally Posted by zack

So, what do you think the hold up is? I would think that the Flacco deal would have commenced the negotiations, but it hasn't. I just wondering why they aren't discussing it right now....

I'm sure they're negotiating, we're just not hearing much about it. Just as I'm sure they're negotiating with Spencer and his agent. Just because we're not hearing anything doesn't mean nothing is going on.

[Picksix]

Originally Posted by Gaede

That's us in a nutshell.

Too scared to let players go that are good enough to breakeven in the NFL. Too fast to overpay those who are better than terrible.

They do tend to have a problem with overvaluing their own talent.

[TheCount]

It's gonna be interesting to see how we hang onto Spencer, Ratliff, Ware, Carr, Claiborne, Lee and Carter on this defense. We are going to have to go thin somewhere.

[JonJon]

Originally Posted by TheCount

It's gonna be interesting to see how we hang onto Spencer, Ratliff, Ware, Carr, Claiborne, Lee and Carter on this defense. We are going to have to go thin somewhere.

Not to mention Dez has his contract year coming up as well. This is why I would prefer the team let Spencer go and get a cheaper replacement. It would be really sweet if someone is willing to trade for him.

[Wood]

Originally Posted by ninja

I would hardly describe the overall talent of a lot of the Cowboys as mediocre. However, their record the past two years has been mediocre. That only leaves coaching since injuries aren't an excuse. Garrett has been mediocre at best, many times much closer to downright putrid.

If your gonna make that statment I expect you to back it up with factual evidence in form of winning seasons, playoff victories, pro bowls......anything.

[xwalker]

Originally Posted by TheCount

It's gonna be interesting to see how we hang onto Spencer, Ratliff, Ware, Carr, Claiborne, Lee and Carter on this defense. We are going to have to go thin somewhere.

Already thin at Safety.

[AbeBeta]

Originally Posted by Idgit

We're trying to digest both Romo's huge number, and Spencer's huge number. This isn't really all that surprising.

It'd be nice, though, if one of those two deals were to get done. Or both.

One thing about these deals that people aren't discussing.

When Romo and/or Spencer get done, we likely can shove more of their money into the 2013 cap rather than structuring for a cap relief early on. Folks wring their hands about "kicking the can" but realistically that is going to be offset by the structure of these deals.

[Idgit]

Originally Posted by AbeBeta

One thing about these deals that people aren't discussing.

When Romo and/or Spencer get done, we likely can shove more of their money into the 2013 cap rather than structuring for a cap relief early on. Folks wring their hands about "kicking the can" but realistically that is going to be offset by the structure of these deals.

I was wondering about that myself the other night. After all the restructuring is done, did the team actually end up putting more money against the cap in the coming season and clearing out future space, or did we commit more gross dollars to the group of players we restructured?

My suspicion is we ended up front loading a lot of cap charges, reduced the amount of cap dollars we have allocated to that group of players in future seasons overall, but spread more of that smaller future cap hit further into the future as a longer cap-tail, if that makes sense.

[gimmesix]

Originally Posted by zack

So, what do you think the hold up is? I would think that the Flacco deal would have commenced the negotiations, but it hasn't. I just wondering why they aren't discussing it right now....

Maybe because Dallas isn't in as big a hurry as we are right now to get a deal done.

[AbeBeta]

Originally Posted by Idgit

I was wondering about that myself the other night. After all the restructuring is done, did the team actually end up putting more money against the cap in the coming season and clearing out future space, or did we commit more gross dollars to the group of players we restructured?

My suspicion is we ended up front loading a lot of cap charges, reduced the amount of cap dollars we have allocated to that group of players in future seasons overall, but spread more of that smaller future cap hit further into the future as a longer cap-tail, if that makes sense.

In every case we converted salary to bonus. If you give a guy 5 mill upfront that way, it means that 5 mill is now spread over the length of the deal (and often times the restructure adds fake years as a club option). That 5 mill spread out hits for one mill a year. I think we likely restructured about 30 mill -- so instead of that hitting this year it is about 6 mill per year over the next five.

In most cases, however, we were dealing with guys who have big salaries in the future that will offset the cap hit for cutting them.

[Risen Star]

Originally Posted by Wood

I still can't get my hands around how a team could be desperate to get under salary cap who has been .500 for past two years. Are cowboys stock piling mediocrity?

It's pretty easy to figure out. It's just a question of whether you can accept it.

The two guys running our football operations aren't qualified for the job.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

WE can recoup cap space from future years by pushing it into subsequent years. You used to have to include LTBE bonuses to get cap space from one year to the next. In this case we can restructure all this now, then sign Romo and/or Spencer and push any cap space we don't use to offset the future proration.

IE we extend Romo and get $7m in saving spend 4 and push 3 to next year. Or something like that.