Romo's contract - How much?

[john van brocklin]

Originally Posted by xwalker

Would you sign Romo to a 3-year, 40M contract (13.3M per year)?

If Flacco is cut after 3 years, his contract basically looks like a 3-year, 40M contract.

That would be a bargin for the Cowboys !!!

[tm1119]

With no real FA's left worth signing I'm all for letting Romo play out this year without the extension. If we don't win AT LEAST 1 playoff game then let him walk. I see no real reason to extend at this point.

[ABQCOWBOY]

Originally Posted by tm1119

With no real FA's left worth signing I'm all for letting Romo play out this year without the extension. If we don't win AT LEAST 1 playoff game then let him walk. I see no real reason to extend at this point.

If you do that, you get nothing in return for him. That doesn't sound like a good strategy to me.

[bkight13]

Originally Posted by hra8700

Thanks, so it is guaranteed for injury only. However, look at this situation.

Joe flacco is guaranteed 30 million in 2013.

Then the club has a decision. Do they pay him 32 million over 2 years or cut him. What possible circumstance would lead to them cutting him unless he was injured (at which point, his bonuses would be guaranteed?). 16 million per year is a good deal for Joe Flacco, unless all of a sudden he turns into Mark Sanchez.

So in essence, the entire three years is almost assuredly going to paid (whether it is "guaranteed" or not), so his contract is 62 million over the first 3 years.

There is no way in hell romo would accept a 3 year 40 million dollar deal.



[View Full Quote]Brady signed a 3 and 27 extension. Brady's contract is a very unique situation. He will be 36 at the start of next season. He signed an extension for his year 38, 39 and 40, fully guaranteed. That is a very unusual contract. His play could fall off a cliff at any moment. But he will still be guaranteed money for the next 5 years. Plus his play will likely be much worse at that age. So Him signing for 9 million a year sounds like he's "taking less" but he's really not. It's all about the circumstance and details of the contract. I've never heard of a player signing a fully guaranteed contract 5 years out in the nfl. That's why the per year numbers seem low (plus his advanced age during those years).

Brady's deal isn't fully guaranteed. It is only guaranteed for injury if he is on the team thru 2014. It is still 3/40 no matter how you want to cut it. If he plays the last 2 year, it for a total of 17m.

[bkight13]

Originally Posted by Galian Beast

Obviously he would want a longer contract than that... or a lot more money...

That's guaranteed. The contract would look like 5/70 on paper.

[tm1119]

Originally Posted by ABQCOWBOY

If you do that, you get nothing in return for him. That doesn't sound like a good strategy to me.

What's the alternative? Trade him now? Just not going to happen.

I'd much rather let him walk for nothing then extend a QB for big $ who has 1 playoff win. At some point we have to move on if we don't win, I'd rather do it before its too late then 3 years and 30+ million dollars later with nothing to show for it then either.

[hra8700]

Originally Posted by bkight13

Brady's deal isn't fully guaranteed. It is only guaranteed for injury if he is on the team thru 2014. It is still 3/40 no matter how you want to cut it. If he plays the last 2 year, it for a total of 17m.

It's a 3/27 extension of a previously signed 4/72 extension. You can't look at it as a 3/40 in any case. The issue is that he is guaranteed a good bit of money even if he blows out a knee in the next couple years, and he will very likely not be worth 20 million at age 38-40 (very few quarterbacks in history have played at a high level at that age). Plus if he is still on the roster after 2014 it becomes fully guaranteed.

So again, under almost every likely circumstance, he will be guaranteed all that money. What is the probability that Brady's skill level will deteriorate to such a point that he is released due to skill reasons at the end of 2014. And if that were the case, then it was like he never signed the extension at all (except of course that he gets an extra 3 million).

The per year averages might be team friendly, but all the rest is very Brady friendly, and that's why it was signed.

[ABQCOWBOY]

Originally Posted by tm1119

What's the alternative? Trade him now? Just not going to happen.

I'd much rather let him walk for nothing then extend a QB for big $ who has 1 playoff win. At some point we have to move on if we don't win, I'd rather do it before its too late then 3 years and 30+ million dollars later with nothing to show for it then either.

Yeah, that's what I would do. I'd trade him now, while I knew I could get something for him if the price is too high. Having said that, I think we all know that's not going to happen but this conversation is not about what we know. It's about what we thing yeah?

[Gemini Dolly]

Im thinking hes looking at 5yr 80-90 million.

[tm1119]

Originally Posted by ABQCOWBOY

Yeah, that's what I would do. I'd trade him now, while I knew I could get something for him if the price is too high. Having said that, I think we all know that's not going to happen but this conversation is not about what we know. It's about what we thing yeah?

Trust me, I'm with ya. I'd pull the trigger on a deal in a second. My asking price wouldn't even be that high to be honest.

I've never been a Romo hater and defended him for a long time, but I absolutely don't see the logic behind extending him at this point. Don't want to see it happen at all.

[bkight13]

Originally Posted by tm1119

What's the alternative? Trade him now? Just not going to happen.

I'd much rather let him walk for nothing then extend a QB for big $ who has 1 playoff win. At some point we have to move on if we don't win, I'd rather do it before its too late then 3 years and 30+ million dollars later with nothing to show for it then either.

At this point, I would rather compete for the next 3 years with Romo, Ware, Spencer, Witten and Austin. They all will be gone soon enough, so why re-build now? I think we are pot committed at this point, to use a poker term.

[CopenhagenCowboy]

Originally Posted by bkight13

I think we are pot committed at this point, to use a poker term.

True.

[tm1119]

Originally Posted by bkight13

At this point, I would rather compete for the next 3 years with Romo, Ware, Spencer, Witten and Austin. They all will be gone soon enough, so why re-build now? I think we are pot committed at this point, to use a poker term.

You'd be right.....if we had a history of being competitive with those players. You can't be pot committed if all you're holding is 3rd pair (love me some poker references). How many straight years can we miss the playoffs or be bounced in the 1st round with the same core of players before we give up? 1 playoff win in 6 years should not get job security and a big pay day.

[Doomsday]

Originally Posted by tm1119

What's the alternative? Trade him now? Just not going to happen.

I'd much rather let him walk for nothing then extend a QB for big $ who has 1 playoff win. At some point we have to move on if we don't win, I'd rather do it before its too late then 3 years and 30+ million dollars later with nothing to show for it then either.

Why not trade him? Buffalo is desperate for a QB, I would try to get a couple of good picks from them and take my chances with Orton or a rookie.

[jnday]

Looking at these numbers and cap hit, it makes me wish that Dallas would have drafted Dalton or Kaepernick. They liked them both and this would have been the perfect time to trade Romo and start one of these guys. This is what they get for putting ell their eggs in one basket.