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Wolverine · 05-28-2005

If the Eagles are gonna win a Super Bowl they better do it this year. I still think they will win the East this year but this year will also be the tuffest time they have had in a long time in winning it.

We had a better FA then the Eagles. Our draft was better then the Eagles. In this draft we got 4 players with 1st round talent. Ware Spears Canty and Burnett. Then we got a steal in Rob Pettiti who has a very good chance at bein a solid OT for this team for a long time.

After that we got some very serious depth at RB with Marion Barber. This is a player who in scout reports was listed as someone who could START for a team.

Our D is almost finished.

If we can have a draft and FA close to what we had this year then I think next year is the year we take over the NFC East. Think about it.

On D all we need is a impact ILB and also a FS. We really dont need much on O. We can go for depth on the OL and hopefully we can take care of our biggest weakness which is WR. And this can all be done in next years FA and Draft.

Also the NY Giants have a chance at bein a good team pretty soon to. Time is runnin out for the Eagles. Better fill that empty trophy case this year cuz if you dont you can forget about it.

Yeagermeister · 05-28-2005

We've been saying that for the last couple of years.

Tio · 05-28-2005

exactly, until we actually beat them, its just talk

JackMagist · 05-28-2005

We've made progress this year with the offseason and the Eagles appear to be in disaray. But it is only May and we have a lot of work to do to overtake the Eagles. I think we have made a good start on doing that but it ain't done yet and won't be until we beat them. Look how often the Redskins have been the paper champs in May and how many times they have fallen short...Not that we are like the 'Skins but you get my point.

**MichaelWinicki** · 05-28-2005

The Eagles still kick our tails in a couple key areas... especially at QB, the O-line and the D-line. Yeah, we have some potentially very-good players on the O-line and D-line but it's just potential at this point. QB though is still a problem. McNabb really advanced his game last year and has the capacity to win a game by himself. We have don't have the same luxury.

Seven · 05-28-2005

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Originally Posted by MichaelWinicki

The Eagles still kick our tails in a couple key areas... especially at QB, the O-line and the D-line. Yeah, we have some potentially very-good players on the O-line and D-line but it's just potential at this point. QB though is still a problem. McNabb really advanced his game last year and has the capacity to win a game by himself. We have don't have the same luxury.

Everything but the McNabb part. TO advanced Donovan's game and he's probably not there this year . I could be wrong, but last year I didn't see McNabb pull any rabbits out of his hat.

twa · 05-28-2005

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Originally Posted by MichaelWinicki

The Eagles still kick our tails in a couple key areas... especially at QB, the O-line and the D-line. Yeah, we have some potentially very-good players on the O-line and D-line but it's just potential at this point. QB though is still a problem. McNabb really advanced his game last year and has the capacity to win a game by himself. We have don't have the same luxury.

Kicking our tails is going a little overboard

I would place our o-line and d-line[with the additions and returning players] at least equal too , if not superior to the Turds.
The addition of Fergusson and Rivera imo are not potential,but proven talent.

While McNabb has become a more complete QB ,I don't think Bledsoe is that far behind ,and in Parcells system might eclipse him.

This season could easily come down to injuries and luck as opposed to inferior talent for a change.

Now if you wish to say Zimmer is inferior to johnson

**MichaelWinicki** · 05-28-2005

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Originally Posted by twa

Kicking our tails is going a little overboard

I would place our o-line and d-line[with the additions and returning players] at least equal too , if not superior to the Turds.
The addition of Fergusson and Rivera imo are not potential,but proven talent.

While McNabb has become a more complete QB ,I don't think Bledsoe is that far behind ,and in Parcells system might eclipse him.

This season could easily come down to injuries and luck as opposed to inferior talent for a change.

Now if you wish to say Zimmer is inferior to johnson

Wow!

"While McNabb has become a more complete QB ,I don't think Bledsoe is that far behind ,and in Parcells system might eclipse him."

My God I don't even know how to respond to that...

LaTunaNostra · 05-28-2005

I think institutionally we are a few years away.

It takes awhile to right a floudering ship, even if a team appears to have upgraded personnel significantly.

The Pro Personnel/Development/Scouting dept, the assistant coaches, the player depth..it takes three or four good drafts to replenish the stock, and an overhaul of the old boy networks that led to complacency and decline in the first palce.

Sure, the starting lineup looks a lot more promising than it did when Bill came in two years ago, but the Eagles are one of the best organizations, top-down in the game today. They managed to tie Johnson and Childress up for eons too, and the coordinators have had the time to acquire very good position coaches. Like NE, they are in tweak mode; we are still in the midst of rebuild.

It will come, and Parcells will leave a much tighter ship when he goes, but I don't see how anyone can say we are close to the Eagles yet.

**MichaelWinicki** · 05-28-2005

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Originally Posted by LaTunaNostra

I think institutionally we are a few years away.

It takes awhile to right a floudering ship, even if a team appears to have upgraded personnel significantly.

The Pro Personnel/Development/Scouting dept, the assistant coaches, the player depth..it takes three or four good drafts to replenish the stock, and an overhaul of the old boy networks that led to complacency and decline in the first palce.

Sure, the starting lineup looks a lot more promising than it did when Bill came in two years ago, but the Eagles are one of the best organizations, top-down in the game today. They managed to tie Johnson and Childress up for eons too, and the coordinators have had the time to acquire very good position coaches. Like NE, they are in tweak mode; we are still in the midst of rebuild.

It will come, and Parcells will leave a much tighter ship when he goes, but I don't see how anyone can say we are close to the Eagles yet.

Exactly.

A fish rots from the head down and our fish had been laying on the beach for quite a while before someone finally buried it.

Philly, NE, Baltimore, Pitt, Indy, Washington, Cleveland.

No difficulty telling the good organizations from the bad huh?

twa · 05-28-2005

You could Bow down and salute my wisdom [after you come out of shock of course]

Failing that,you could aknowlege that Bledsoe has played well[in the past of course] when he is used correctly.

Bledsoe would not be my first choice for QB,but niether would McNabb.
Both have holes in their game,it is on the coaches and team to make up for them.

**MichaelWinicki** · 05-28-2005

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Originally Posted by twa

You could Bow down and salute my wisdom [after you come out of shock of course]

Failing that,you could aknowlege that Bledsoe has played well[in the past of course] when he is used correctly.

Bledsoe would not be my first choice for QB,but niether would McNabb.
Both have holes in their game,it is on the coaches and team to make up for them.

LOL!

Good come-back!

AJM1613 · 05-28-2005

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Originally Posted by thats7

Everything but the McNabb part. TO advanced Donovan's game and he's probably not there this year . I could be wrong, but last year I didn't see McNabb pull any rabbits out of his hat.

McNabb advanced his game after week seven of 2003. Since then he has played fourteen games without Owens (twelve in 2003, two in 2004) and fifteen games with him.

In those fourteen games without him he completed 62.3% of his passes, 7.8 yards per pass attempt, a .53 interception percentage, a quarterback rating of 95.47 and a 5.4 rushing average. With TO he completed 63.1% of his passes, 8.1 yards per pass attempt, a .73 interception percentage, a quarterback rating of 100.1, and a 5.1 rushing average. In those games our offense scored two more points per game with TO than without him (26 to 24).

Sure his numbers are better with Owens, he is a top five receiver, but I'm sure we could be just as successful this season if McNabb had a 95.5 quarterback rating.

*another thing to note is the rule 'emphasis' brought almost every quarterback in the league's rating up from 2003 and the upper echelon of quarterback's ratings went up significantly (look at Brees, Manning and Culpepper. Even Brady's went up seven points).

And TO will be back.

JackMagist · 05-28-2005

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Originally Posted by MichaelWinicki

Wow!

"While McNabb has become a more complete QB ,I don't think Bledsoe is that far behind ,and in Parcells system might eclipse him."

My God I don't even know how to respond to that...

Just agree Mikey...It's true.

Jersey · 05-28-2005

With or without t.o., we'll whoop them. The NFL has never been so watered down and they still couldn't win a title. Their 15 minutes of fluke are OVER. They were never as good as the NFC was as bad. They have always been a franchise that once you punch them in the mouth, they quit. That punch come this year!