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05-29-2005
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Zimmer Hater
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Bledsoe or McNabb.
Lets say that the Cowboys have one of the top 3 OLs in the NFL. Who would you put behind this OL if you could choose between Drew Bledsoe and Donovan McNabb.
For me I would take Bledsoe. Call me homer if you want but I have my reasons and here they are.
If you could give Bledsoe time to throw there is no doubt he is a better passer then McNabb. McNabb is a much better athlete but Bledsoe has a much better arm. Drew Bledsoe could never dream of makin runs and moves like Mcnabb but McNabb could never dream of makin some of the throws Bledsoe can.
Bledsoe is more accurate. He can throw the ball alot harder then McNabb. You get Bledsoe a dangerous deep threat and he becomes even more dangerous cuz I dont think there is anyone in the NFL that has Bledsoes accuracy with the long ball.
McNabbs biggest strength is not his arm. It is his athletic ability. He keeps Ds confused cuz they are never sure if he will just take off and run. That makes it easier for him to throw. You give McNabb the same mobility Bledsoe has and I dont even think McNabb could start in the NFL.
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Originally Posted by cobra
Good system Zimmer... never met a player with outstanding potential that Zimmer couldn't reel in and suffocate. Roy, Newman, Ware, Spears, etc...... Teaching how to avoid instincts since 2000.
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05-29-2005
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Insulin Beware
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Actually, as I understand it, the best throw that McNabb has is him deep ball. His deep ball is supposed to be one of the most accurate in the NFL.....it's the shorter, intermediate stuff that he has trouble with. But his deep ball accuracy/power has always been an assett....
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05-29-2005
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#3
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Penguinite
Years Donated 2004, 2005, 2006
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McNabb.
Criticisms aside, his season numbers are simply too good to argue with.
Bledsoe makes alot of the same forced throws without the game breaking legs.
But I still don't know what any team saw Thursday night that would have made them comfortable with waiting a round or two for the offensive lineman they wanted. ---Todd McShay
We just converted half our LB to DL. We have a 30m starting DL, it better be pretty friggin good.
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05-29-2005
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#4
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Senior Member
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McNabb and it ain't close.
That is even with the fact I think McNabb is overrated and chokes.
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05-29-2005
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...Abbey someone
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Originally Posted by blindzebra
McNabb and it ain't close.
That is even with the fact I think McNabb is overrated and chokes.
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What he said. 
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05-29-2005
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Senior Member
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Originally Posted by Juke99
What he said. 
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Agreed. Youth is on his side too.
Last edited by KDWilliams85 : 05-29-2005 at 04:57 PM.
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05-29-2005
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Proud Navy Veteran 1990-1995
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I gotta go with Bledsoe. I've never liked Mcnabb and still wouldn't if he were here. I don't have a real reason I just don't like him. I have always thought he was over rated and I Know he has great numbers I look at stats all day but there is just something about him.
Now why I chose DB first I think he is a lot better than people make him out to be. he has a good arm and I think he's a good leader. He travels from washington every week to workout with the team. I think with the line we will have protecting him he could actually have probowl numbers. I mean he went racing race cars with the DB's how many qb's do that? Not many. I just think DB will be a better leader for us than McNabb.
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05-29-2005
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Senior Member
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Let's look at their passing, since this is where you think Bledsoe is miles above McNabb. I'm excluding both their rookie years.
Accuracy:
Bledsoe: 57.0% career, 61.5% his best year, 50.8% his worst year
McNabb: 58.3% career, 64.0% his best year, 57.5% his worst year
Yards per attempt:
Bledsoe: 6.58 career, 7.55 his best year, 5.51 his worst year
McNabb: 6.55 career, 8.26 his best year, 5.91 his worst year
QB Rating:
Bledsoe: 76.7 career, 87.7 his best year, 63.7 his worst year
McNabb: 83.9 career, 104.7 his best year, 77.8 his worst year
TD/INT ratio:
Bledsoe: 1.22 career, 1.87 his best year, 0.81 his worst year
McNabb: 2.07 career, 3.88 his best year, 1.45 his worst year
You could make all kinds of other points about talent surrounding each, years in a system, who can make what throws, years in a league, etc. I've got a good idea which is better, but I won't say it. I just wanted to put up the numbers.
Compare McNabb's worst year to Bledsoe's career numbers and things are alot closer.
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05-29-2005
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#9
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"You Want Some?"
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Originally Posted by Juke99
What he said. 
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Me too!
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05-29-2005
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DKRandom
Joined: | Aug 2004 |
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As much as i hate to say i woudl ahve ot go with Mcnabb hes younger and even though he chokes alot if we put other players around him maybe we can still win something
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05-29-2005
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#11
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Senior Member
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McNabb...
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05-29-2005
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#12
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Federal Agent
Joined: | Apr 2004 |
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Originally Posted by blindzebra
McNabb and it ain't close.
That is even with the fact I think McNabb is overrated and chokes.
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Ditto. On both counts.
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05-29-2005
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#13
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Senior Member
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This thread can not be remotely serious.
Last edited by scottsp : 05-29-2005 at 04:45 PM.
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05-29-2005
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Woohitz
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Originally Posted by scottsp
This thread can not be remotely serious.
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My thoughts exactly 
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05-29-2005
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Proud Navy Veteran 1990-1995
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Originally Posted by TobiasEagle77
Let's look at their passing, since this is where you think Bledsoe is miles above McNabb. I'm excluding both their rookie years.
Accuracy:
Bledsoe: 57.0% career, 61.5% his best year, 50.8% his worst year
McNabb: 58.3% career, 64.0% his best year, 57.5% his worst year
Yards per attempt:
Bledsoe: 6.58 career, 7.55 his best year, 5.51 his worst year
McNabb: 6.55 career, 8.26 his best year, 5.91 his worst year
QB Rating:
Bledsoe: 76.7 career, 87.7 his best year, 63.7 his worst year
McNabb: 83.9 career, 104.7 his best year, 77.8 his worst year
TD/INT ratio:
Bledsoe: 1.22 career, 1.87 his best year, 0.81 his worst year
McNabb: 2.07 career, 3.88 his best year, 1.45 his worst year
[View Full Quote]You could make all kinds of other points about talent surrounding each, years in a system, who can make what throws, years in a league, etc. I've got a good idea which is better, but I won't say it. I just wanted to put up the numbers.
Compare McNabb's worst year to Bledsoe's career numbers and things are alot closer.
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Is that yards per attempt or per completion? Just wondering if it is per attempt then I'd say bledsoe has a big lead.
at the same point in their careers bledsoe had 21981 yards and Mcnabb has 16926
What kinda O does Philly run? isn't it a west coast short passes? and beldsoe has always been in a stretch the field Offense. I think that can explain the difference in comp ratio. but per attempt
but for fun at the same point in their career bledsoe had thrown 3382 pass attempts and Mcnabb has thrown 2586 hum lets see 796 less passes for mcnabb but 5055 less yards and Mcnabb had 1507 complete and Bledsoe had 1887 complete thats 380 more completions which = 13.3 yards per completion on the 380
Lets do the math on completions
Bledsoe had 1887 for 21981 which is 11.65 per completion
Mcnabb had 1507 for 16926 which is 11.23 per completion
so what did I learn Bledsoe threw a lot more passes in his first 6 seasons than Mcnabb and he threw deeper passes. His INT'S tell that
BTW don't mind me I'm just rambling I love the math....OH but wait
The last 6years of bledsoes career which is the first six of Mcnabb lets compare
Mcnabb comp1507 attempts 2586 yards per attempt 6.55 comp percent 58.3
Total passing yards 16926
Bledsoe Comp 1562 attempts 2667 yards per attempt 6.68 comp percent 58.6
total passing yards 17827
In closing Bledsoe has got a lot better in his passing over the last six years and he beats Mcnabb in every stat except Int's and TD's Which happen to be the most important but again look at the type of offense they have been in. and I gotta give a slight edge to Bledsoe or call it a dead heat. Reason I did it like this I don't think its fair to look at just 6 years for Mcnabb and all 12 of Bledsoes
BTW Mcnabbs worst year per attempt was 4.38 nnot the 5.91 you said look at his rookie year he 948 yards on 216 attempts
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