Bledsoe or McNabb.

[zorg222]

I think McNabb is overrated. Like Wolv said, Bledsoe has a better arm and mobility isn't that important. A little mobility is good and useful, beyond that, it is just overkill. Vick is overrated and McNabb is overrated. They both just happen to have a lot of mobility. People (including the media) think that mobility for a QB makes them great. It doesn't, mobility just makes them a little better. It's not a necessity. I would take the arm over the legs because the RB can run, but the QB needs to throw.

So I would take Bledsoe over McNabb in a heartbeat because in my eyes, it's not a tough choice.

[HardHittin'Witten]

McNabb.

[dargonking999]

Originally Posted by zorg222

I think McNabb is overrated. Like Wolv said, Bledsoe has a better arm and mobility isn't that important. A little mobility is good and useful, beyond that, it is just overkill. Vick is overrated and McNabb is overrated. They both just happen to have a lot of mobility. People (including the media) think that mobility for a QB makes them great. It doesn't, mobility just makes them a little better. It's not a necessity. I would take the arm over the legs because the RB can run, but the QB needs to throw.

So I would take Bledsoe over McNabb in a heartbeat because in my eyes, it's not a tough choice.

you know what, i hate the ealges and i love vick, but i'm gonna say this, i dont care how overrated you say these players are here is the truth

in the last 4 years, Mcnabb has lead his team to the palyoffs, 3 NFC and a SB, hemay not have one all of them, but he did it

Vick Has also lead his team to the playoffs, and we all saw whathappen to the team when he went down.

As Overrated hey are in your opionion, theycan have mobiltyarm power what ever you say theyhave, but they do what no QB has been able to do for us, and thats come in and consientlylead their team to the playoffs. Get me a QB who can earn his team a W, i dont care whether he does it by running our throwing, they bothe get ther teams W, and i the NFL thats what matters.

[TobiasEagle77]

@jksmith269

- The numbers I posted were yards per attempt, straight from NFL.com... you'd say Bledsoe has a big lead, but NFL.com says that McNabb has a lead.

- If the Eagles run a "west-coast short pass" offense then why is Pinkston playing there? Pinkston is a one dimensional deep threat. The truth is, the Eagles run a west-coast offense with occasional shots downfield to Pinkston (and to T.O. last year). Last year's offense was alot more vertical than year's past.

- In general, Bledsoe had more attempts than McNabb. But at the "same point in their careers" Bledsoe had played in more games, making this gap look larger than it was.

- I still don't see any evidence Bledsoe threw "deeper" passes. His yards per completion is only 0.4 yds more than McNabb. His interceptions just show that he's less carefull with the football.

- Do you really think it's fair to compare Bledsoe's "last six years" to McNabb's first six? McNabb (like all qbs) had a "bad" rookie year and a subpar 2nd season.

- "In closing Bledsoe has got a lot better in his passing over the last six years and he beats Mcnabb in every stat except Int's and TD's". Look at QB rating as well, the most comprehensive of the QB stats. McNabb has a large edge there.

- "BTW Mcnabbs worst year per attempt was 4.38 nnot the 5.91 you said look at his rookie year he 948 yards on 216 attempts". If you read my post, I threw out both their rookie years. Bledsoe's "worst" stats would go down as well if I counted rookie years.

[Seven]

McBledsoe. There.

[zorg222]

Originally Posted by dargonking999

you know what, i hate the ealges and i love vick, but i'm gonna say this, i dont care how overrated you say these players are here is the truth

in the last 4 years, Mcnabb has lead his team to the palyoffs, 3 NFC and a SB, hemay not have one all of them, but he did it

Vick Has also lead his team to the playoffs, and we all saw whathappen to the team when he went down.

As Overrated hey are in your opionion, theycan have mobiltyarm power what ever you say theyhave, but they do what no QB has been able to do for us, and thats come in and consientlylead their team to the playoffs. Get me a QB who can earn his team a W, i dont care whether he does it by running our throwing, they bothe get ther teams W, and i the NFL thats what matters.

You mention these quarterbacks (McNabb and Vick) leading their teams to these victories. Have you noticed that there are 21 other guys out on the field doing their part just like the QB is. Just because the QB calls the plays doesn't mean he is single handidly the player that wins football games for his team. There is a whole team of players to help the cause. Bad teams don't win games, period. Yeah a good QB helps with the wins, but they aren't the only guys out on the field playing football. McNabb has good players around him and those players contribute to the Eagle's sucess just as much as McNabb does.

Vick, no matter how much you love him, is not truly a QB. You've gotta admit that he has no arm. They let him run a ton each game and just watch him juke his way through defenders for yardage. In my eyes I see VIck as a RB and when he throws, it is eqivelant (maybe a little better) to a 'RB Pass' play.

So I said it before and I'll say it again, neither one of these guys are exceptional passers ad you know it. Without a good team and system they aren't that good of QBs at all. (ledsoe is at about the same level)

I'm not trying to bash or smack talk about McNabb and Vick, they are talented guys. They're legs are fantastic, but they're arms aren't anything special. So don't act like they are complete QBs cuase they're not. They're mobile with a little bit of a arm thrown in.

BTW, I don't think that any QB leads their team to victory. I think the teams lead themselves to victory and the QB plays their role in it just like every other player on the team.

[Wolverine]

TobiasEagle. I really dont care about those completion % numbers. Bledsoe also throw alot more deep balls then ANY other QB in the NFL. When you throw deep the % go down.


As much as I would like to see Henson get in and take over so much of me just wants to see Bledsoe play all 16 games and I really hope the WRs do better then I think they will. If all that goes down then I really think alota people in here both Cowboy fans and Eagle fans will be really surprised at the numbers Bledsoe puts up.

I really hope Quincy Morgan actually can figure out what his hands are for. Cuz I will say he has dangerous speed. If he can hold on to the ball and have good hands Bledsoe will have a huge year. ONe thing about Morgon is I know he wont have probs burnin Ds and gettin open deep. My big worry is that he cant hold on to the ball. Till he proves he can he aint worth much.



As far as a passer goes I will take Bledsoe over McNabb. If we are in the Red Zone and a QB needs to force a pass to a WR or TE or RB Bledsoe can get away with it more then McNabb simply cuz McNabb has nowhere close to the arm strength Bledsoe does. Bledsoe can put alot more heat on the ball then McNabb by a big amount.

[Chief]

If you asked the GM of all the teams in the NFL to make that choice, my guess is every one of them would take McNabb.

Only on a message board would this be debated.

[zorg222]

Originally Posted by Wolverine

TobiasEagle. I really dont care about those completion % numbers. Bledsoe also throw alot more deep balls then ANY other QB in the NFL. When you throw deep the % go down.

Speak it Wolv! Amen!

[scottsp]

I'm glad Dallas upgraded from Vinny and I think Drew Bledsoe can come in and do some good things, provided he is protected.

But we are comparing a player many view as a top five quarterback to a guy who was recently released so that his former team could go younger at the position.

This doesn't make Drew a terrible quarterback, but he isn't in McNabb's class either.

Good shtick though.

[scottsp]

Originally Posted by Chief

If you asked the GM of all the teams in the NFL to make that choice, my guess is every one of them would take McNabb.

Only on a message board would this be debated.

Absolutely.

[scottsp]

Originally Posted by Wolverine

TobiasEagle. I really dont care about those completion % numbers. Bledsoe also throw alot more deep balls then ANY other QB in the NFL. When you throw deep the % go down.

Correct me if I'm wrong here, but I do believe McNabb was nearly two yards better per attempt last season.

[TobiasEagle77]

I posted the stats in an attempt to put forward an unbiased account of the production of each. I even left out rushing stats, since we were talking about their value as "passers".

If you want to believe that Bledsoe's lack of accuracy has everything to do with him throwing the ball deep and nothing to do with his tendency to just plain miss guys, there is obviously no way I can argue that. I could just as easily say that McNabb's lack of accuracy has everything to do with how many times he throws on the run, and nothing to do with his tendency to just plain miss guys.

The passing stats should be sufficient for most people to see who is the better passer. But when it comes down to it, you say Bledsoe is the better passer and I say McNabb is. It's all meaningless till they both hit the field and we can all see whose doing what.

Once again, we'll find out on October 9th and November 14th.

[5 Super Bowls]

Is there an option C. I don't like either one of them, and I don't think we or the iggles win a SB with either at the helm, unless they are just that dominant on the other side of the ball. McNutt is a choker and overrated. I think Bledsoe is also a choker and past his prime. God I hope he proves me wrong.

[wxcpo]

Originally Posted by scottsp

This thread can not be remotely serious.

Exactly what I was thinking.

Heck while were at it why don't we just ask about other positions.

Tony Dixon or Ed Reed

Keyshaun or Harrison

Cundiff or Akers

McNabb wins hands down. I want a QB who is not a statue no matter what kind of OL the team has. There is going to be a time when he needs to run from defenders and Bledsoe simply can't do that. McNabb has proven to be a leader on the field and despite my hatred for the Iggles I do have respect for McNabb and would take him over Bledsoe in a heartbeat.