The Nor's nemisis...the 4-2-5 defense.

[MichaelWinicki]

Even though the 4-2-5 (the "Nickel) has been mentioned by some of the Cowboy's brain trust as being on the field a lot... some have said upwards of 50% of the time why isn't anyone talking about it on the board?

Personally I find that defense intriguing with the use of Roy as a linebacker. I defy someone to say any other defense would put 11 better players on the field than:

Dllis DE
Glover DT
Canty/Spears DT (OK I'm cheating here-- tough!)
Ware DE
Dat LB
Burnett LB
Newman CB
Glenn CB
Roy SS
Davis FS
Henry CB

Talent wise I say Glenn is more talented than any of the other linebackers in my opinion and any defense that keeps Glover and/or Ellis off the field is a POS in my opinion.

So why aren't we hearing much about this defense?

Oh yeah! By the way--- "Bring it clownage"!

[Lifetimeboyzfan]

I do love the nickel package we will run out there.. One small counterpoint in regards to your list there, where is Fergy? I would imagine that the argument is you want more of a pass rusher type in nickel situations, however, to spend the money we did on Fergy and to have him on the field less than 50% of the time seems odd.

[Banned_n_austin]

I think we'll see some nickle in passing situations, Mikey. But that defense is easy to run on ...

And you also have Ware at DE ... I think he's better suited at LB ...

But props none-the-less for being creative ...

[Kilyin]

According to Nors every defense is 3-4 or 4-3 base. Otherwise it's a gimmicky prevent defense. So put away your gimmicky nickel, we only use the 3-4 now.

[Hollywood Henderson]

I am not a "big" fan of Dat there Mikey and this Dllis guy doesn't sound like much of a player ether!

[parchy]

Originally Posted by Banned_n_austin

And you also have Ware at DE ... I think he's better suited at LB ...

Agreed. I hope he doesn't play one down of DE in the pros. He should be an exclusive linebacker now.

[Banned_n_austin]

Originally Posted by MichaelWinicki

Even though the 4-2-5 (the "Nickel) has been mentioned by some of the Cowboy's brain trust as being on the field a lot... some have said upwards of 50% of the time why isn't anyone talking about it on the board?

Personally I find that defense intriguing with the use of Roy as a linebacker. I defy someone to say any other defense would put 11 better players on the field than:

Dllis DE
Glover DT
Canty/Spears DT (OK I'm cheating here-- tough!)
Ware DE
Dat LB
Burnett LB
Newman CB
Glenn CB
Roy SS
Davis FS
Henry CB

Talent wise I say Glenn is more talented than any of the other linebackers in my opinion and any defense that keeps Glover and/or Ellis off the field is a POS in my opinion.

So why aren't we hearing much about this defense?

[View Full Quote]Oh yeah! By the way--- "Bring it clownage"!

And who the frick is Dllis?

[Banned_n_austin]

Originally Posted by parchy

Agreed. I hope he doesn't play one down of DE in the pros. He should be an exclusive linebacker now.

I won't mind seeing him move up from the LB spot ... but I think his size is a disadvantage if he gives away where he's going to be coming from ...

[Fletch]

Banned, is that girl in your sig so upset over the Eagirls loss that she is chugging on a whole pitcher of beer?

[Charles]

Originally Posted by MichaelWinicki

Even though the 4-2-5 (the "Nickel) has been mentioned by some of the Cowboy's brain trust as being on the field a lot... some have said upwards of 50% of the time why isn't anyone talking about it on the board?

Personally I find that defense intriguing with the use of Roy as a linebacker. I defy someone to say any other defense would put 11 better players on the field than:

Okay

Originally Posted by MichaelWinicki

Greg Ellis - Anthony Weaver
Glover - Dwan Edwards
Canty/Spears - Kelly Gregg/Maake Kemoeatu
Ware - Suggs
Dat - Ray Lewis
Burnett - Polley/Adalius Thomas LB
Newman - Samari Rolle
Glenn - Deion Sanders/Dale Carter
Roy - Ed Reed
Davis - Will Demps
Henry - Chris McAlister

Originally Posted by MichaelWinicki

Talent wise I say Glenn is more talented than any of the other linebackers in my opinion and any defense that keeps Glover and/or Ellis off the field is a POS in my opinion.

So why aren't we hearing much about this defense?

Oh yeah! By the way--- "Bring it clownage"!

Interesting. Of course by now you know the team in comparison is the Ravens. They are actually experiementing with the 4-2-5.

I think our secondary isn't deep enough to field a 4-2-5 defense. I think we are a 4thCB/ true FS short to make that defense work. Also they are experiementing with proven players.

[Kilyin]

I think our secondary isn't deep enough to field a 4-2-5 defense. I think we are a 4thCB/ true FS short to make that defense work. Also they are experiementing with proven players.

You know all 32 teams run the 4-2-5 right? It's the standard nickel package.

I think you are mistaking this for the 46, which the Ravens are supposedly going to use.

[LaTunaNostra]

Originally Posted by MichaelWinicki

Oh yeah! By the way--- "Bring it clownage"!

It does have the distinct advantage of keeping "ALs" off , so maybe 'he' won't mind the discussion.

Of course, rotations apply in any scheme...so Bradie and Shanle can be utilized.

Fergy will get a well needed rest.

[Charles]

Originally Posted by Kilyin

You know all 32 teams run the 4-2-5 right? It's the standard nickel package.

I think you are mistaking this for the 46, which the Ravens are supposedly going to use.

Yep I got my defense mixed up. You are right.

The comparison shows that the Ravens can field 11 better players in the nickle package.

[Banned_n_austin]

Originally Posted by Fletch

Banned, is that girl in your sig so upset over the Eagirls loss that she is chugging on a whole pitcher of beer?

Now that's MY idea of a Super Bowl party.





:iggles:

[big dog cowboy]

Originally Posted by MichaelWinicki

So why aren't we hearing much about this defense?

Why don't we just see if we can play with 12 guys?