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08-16-2005
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Right Kind of Guy
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Clarifying My Stance on Tony Romo
I knew that my saying something good about Drew Henson from Saturday would upset some folks. I had no idea it would nearly cause mass suicide.
I did not mean to imply (as some seem to think) that Tony Romo is a bust. My observation was that he threw almost all soft passes and that when he threw it hard there was a noticable difference between him and the other 2 QBs. I stand by that.
Donovan McNabb is often bashed on this site for throwing all dump off passes or lob passes. The general opinion is that when he has to gas it he loses accuracy and becomes a liability. I have not pushed this theory here because I happen to like McNabb a bit. That's my opinion and I have a right to express it. I see the exact same tendency in Romo, but with less zip on the ball. This concerns me.
Understand that I am very opinionated on QBs. I want a QB who can do it all. Obviously, at this point I do not know that either of our young guns can or cannot fit this hope of mine. As it stands right now, based solely on what I saw with my own eyes, one of them can. I am truly sorry if that opinion hurts someone's feelings.
I feel that over the course of my battles on QBs I have been pretty consistent with my praise and my criticisms. Am I picky? Of course I am.
I wondered if my opinion was too harsh given the reactions. I did my best to explain why I was not impressed by an 8 out of 10 performance. It fell on deaf ears. In truth I wasn't that surprised, but it clearly went further than I expected.
I decided to seek an opinion from someone I respect very much on whether I was being rash on his arm strength. This is my question to him. Understand he is a journalist who sometimes reads this site, but whose opinion I value.
"At the game in warmups and in the game I was not impressed with Tony Romo's arm. His accuracy was good, but the velocity was poor.
You've seen more of him than I have. Am I off base?"
This is his answer.
"Yeah I've never really thought Romo's arm was his strong point. I mean, there were reasons he went undrafted. I think he tries to make up for it with craftiness and "moxie" as they say, but who knows if it'll work."
Now, I know some people are going to scream "mediot" and some may even claim I respect him because he shares my agenda. I can't govern the reactions. I just thought I'd share with you what he felt since he was not part of the "conspiracy trio to slight Tony Romo." He did not attend the game with us or the guys from CF.com. He's seen more of him than all of us have.
I do not have an agenda against Tony Romo. If he sticks around that's great. If he ends up cut at some point I believe it will be exactly for the reasons I stated. It is simply too hard to hide flaws in the NFL. Having said that I wish him well the rest of this year. I am rooting for him.
Even when critical of a player I still root for them as long as they wear this uniform. That will never change. I wish I felt that some who were critical of my agenda the last few days held the same view. I'd be less than honest if I said I think they want Drew Henson to succeed. I don't believe they do. Too much has been said by them to ever make me think otherwise.
Last edited by Hostile : 08-16-2005 at 04:28 PM.
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08-16-2005
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I've got moxie
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Originally Posted by Hostile
I knew that my saying somethign good about Drew Henson from Saturday would upset some folks. I had no idea it would nearly cause mass suicide.
I did not mean to imply (as some seem to think) that Tony Romo is a bust. My observation was that he threw almost all soft passes and that when he threw it hard there was a noticable difference between him and the other 2 QBs. I stand by that.
Donovan McNabb is often bashed on this site for throwing all dump off passes or lob passes. The general opinion is that when he has to gas it he loses accuracy and becomes a liability. I have not pushed this theory here because I happen to like McNabb a bit. That's my opinion and I have a right to express it. I see the exact same tendency in Romo, but with less zip on the ball. This concerns me.
[View Full Quote]Understand that I am very opinionated on QBs. I want a QB who can do it all. Obviously, at this point I do not know that either of our young guns can or cannot fit this hope of mine. As it stands right now, based solely on what I saw with my own eyes, one of them can. I am truly sorry if that opinion hurts someone's feelings.
I feel that over the course of my battles on QBs I have bene pretty consistent with my praise and my criticisms. Am I picky? Of course I am.
I wondered if my opinion was too harsh given the reactions. I did my best to explain why I was not impressed by an 8 out of 10 performance. It fell on deaf ears. In truth I wasn't that surprised, but it clearly went further than I expected.
I decided to seek an opinion from someone I respect very much on whether I was being rash on his arm strength. This is my question to him. Understand he is a journalist who sometimes reads this site, but whose opinion I value.
"At the game in warmups and in the game I was not impressed with Tony Romo's arm. His accuracy was good, but the velocity was poor.
You've seen more of him than I have. Am I off base?"
This is his answer.
"Yeah I've never really thought Romo's arm was his strong point. I mean, there were reasons he went undrafted. I think he tries to make up for it with craftiness and "moxie" as they say, but who knows if it'll work."
Now, I know some people are going to scream "mediot" and some may even claim I respect him because he shares my agenda. I can't govern the reactions. I just thought I'd share with you what he felt since he was not part of the "conspiracy trio to slight Tony Romo." He did not attend the game with us or the guys from CF.com. He's seen more of him than all of us have.
I do not have an agenda against Tony Romo. If he sticks around that's great. If he ends up cut at some point I believe it will be exactly for the reasons I stated. It is simply too hard to hide flaws in the NFL. Having said that I wish him well the rest of this year. I am rooting for him.
Even when critical of a player I still root for them as long as they wear this uniform. That will never change. I wish I felt that some who were critical of my agenda the last few days held the same view. I'd be less than honest if I said I think they want Drew Henson to succeed. I don't believe they do. Too much has been said by them to ever make me think otherwise.
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Romo hater.
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08-16-2005
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Old School D
Joined: | Dec 2004 |
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Originally Posted by Hostile
I knew that my saying somethign good about Drew Henson from Saturday would upset some folks. I had no idea it would nearly cause mass suicide.
I did not mean to imply (as some seem to think) that Tony Romo is a bust. My observation was that he threw almost all soft passes and that when he threw it hard there was a noticable difference between him and the other 2 QBs. I stand by that.
Donovan McNabb is often bashed on this site for throwing all dump off passes or lob passes. The general opinion is that when he has to gas it he loses accuracy and becomes a liability. I have not pushed this theory here because I happen to like McNabb a bit. That's my opinion and I have a right to express it. I see the exact same tendency in Romo, but with less zip on the ball. This concerns me.
[View Full Quote]Understand that I am very opinionated on QBs. I want a QB who can do it all. Obviously, at this point I do not know that either of our young guns can or cannot fit this hope of mine. As it stands right now, based solely on what I saw with my own eyes, one of them can. I am truly sorry if that opinion hurts someone's feelings.
I feel that over the course of my battles on QBs I have bene pretty consistent with my praise and my criticisms. Am I picky? Of course I am.
I wondered if my opinion was too harsh given the reactions. I did my best to explain why I was not impressed by an 8 out of 10 performance. It fell on deaf ears. In truth I wasn't that surprised, but it clearly went further than I expected.
I decided to seek an opinion from someone I respect very much on whether I was being rash on his arm strength. This is my question to him. Understand he is a journalist who sometimes reads this site, but whose opinion I value.
"At the game in warmups and in the game I was not impressed with Tony Romo's arm. His accuracy was good, but the velocity was poor.
You've seen more of him than I have. Am I off base?"
This is his answer.
"Yeah I've never really thought Romo's arm was his strong point. I mean, there were reasons he went undrafted. I think he tries to make up for it with craftiness and "moxie" as they say, but who knows if it'll work."
Now, I know some people are going to scream "mediot" and some may even claim I respect him because he shares my agenda. I can't govern the reactions. I just thought I'd share with you what he felt since he was not part of the "conspiracy trio to slight Tony Romo." He did not attend the game with us or the guys from CF.com. He's seen more of him than all of us have.
I do not have an agenda against Tony Romo. If he sticks around that's great. If he ends up cut at some point I believe it will be exactly for the reasons I stated. It is simply too hard to hide flaws in the NFL. Having said that I wish him well the rest of this year. I am rooting for him.
Even when critical of a player I still root for them as long as they wear this uniform. That will never change. I wish I felt that some who were critical of my agenda the last few days held the same view. I'd be less than honest if I said I think they want Drew Henson to succeed. I don't believe they do. Too much has been said by them to ever make me think otherwise.
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Aww heck, buddy. Remember the old saying.. You can please some of the people some of the time....
You don't have to explain yourself or your opinion.
(Romo rules!!)

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08-16-2005
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Senior Member
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I've said it before and I'll say it again... if Romo wants to be a starter in the NFL (with any team), he needs to study Troy Aikman's playing days... now Troy had a stronger arm than Romo, but he thrived on accuracy... Romo needs to have a completion % in the high sixties if he's going to win ball games. He's getting there, and he can do it, but it'll take a whole helluva lot of work.
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08-16-2005
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Senior Member
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Donovan McNabb is often bashed on this site for throwing all dump off passes or lob passes. The general opinion is that when he has to gas it he loses accuracy and becomes a liability. I have not pushed this theory here because I happen to like McNabb a bit. That's my opinion and I have a right to express it. I see the exact same tendency in Romo, but with less zip on the ball. This concerns me.
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That's news to me. I always thought he made alot of short passes because the Eagles are WCO. I've seen McNabb air it out, and he can throw a deep ball. God knows he's done it to Dallas plenty. Now as far as running out of gas in general with Mcnabb, you may be on to something (complimentary Superbowl reference).
Anyway, I hate to interfere with another Romo / Henson thread, so have at it.
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08-16-2005
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Senior Member
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I think most of us understood where you were coming from, Hos.
But I'm glad you posted this anyway. Not because I think anyone will benefit from the clarification. But because I'm looking forward to the fireworks. 
Last edited by Outlaw Heroes : 08-16-2005 at 03:58 PM.
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08-16-2005
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Instincts to another flow
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Originally Posted by junk
Romo hater.
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08-16-2005
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Senior Member
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Hos,
You hit it....

"You had better decide whether you're hangin' on the cross... or bangin' in the nails!"
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08-16-2005
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Arch Defender
Joined: | Apr 2004 |
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Originally Posted by Hostile
I'd be less than honest if I said I think they want Drew Henson to succeed. I don't believe they do. Too much has been said by them to ever make me think otherwise.
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after absolute dog crap QB play for the past 5 years, you'd think Dallas fans would really be behind this guy, but as you say, some arnt
wonder what would happen if he turned into a pro bowl calibar starter in the not so distant future...we'd probably be seeing post after post from his current detractors saying they knew he'd be good all along
personally I still think he is going to be a good starter (I didnt say all-pro, maybe he will maybe he wont, but good is what I believe) though I dont know if it will be with Parcells, nor do I know if it'll even be here with the Cowboys...I do firmly believe he'll be good though...IMO the current coaching staff is not conducive to developing a QB
David
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08-16-2005
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Star Power
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Everyone has a bias. It doesn't necessarily mean that one has an agenda. I won't name names.
Is there any reward for good other than good?
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08-16-2005
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Senior Member
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Good job.
The secret spin meeting will be at Adbutcher's next Sunday in preperation for MNF. I'll bring the chips, you supply the dip.
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08-16-2005
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The Sarcastic One
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The only problem that I have with either side of the issue is that people are taking what other posters say about one of the QB's and having to argue with them regardless if they are right or not.....it's just plain stupid.
About the Arm strength issue....sorry, but there are PLENTY of HoF QB's that had questionable arm strength. Will Romo ever make it? Who knows. If the name on his back said "Montana" would the feelings of people here remain the same? Don't tell me Montana had superior arm strength....cuz we all know he didn't.
I don't see a problem with people disagreeing with each other. Only when they don't take what they other says objectively. They are seeing the poster instead of the post.
Throw out what you think about the poster and just think about what was posted...it would cause the "I hate Henson/Romo" glasses to come off a little bit.
(This isn't directed directly at you Hos, but everyone involved in this issue.)
Jimz31 has spoken....you may now close the thread.
"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us; they can't get away this time!" -- Lt. Col. Puller, USMC
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08-16-2005
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Originally Posted by Hostile
I knew that my saying something good about Drew Henson from Saturday would upset some folks. I had no idea it would nearly cause mass suicide.

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You are not fooling me you Romo Hater!! 
A is A
"It is...as necessary to defend an individual against the majority in a democracy as against the king in a monarchy." - John Adams
"A great civilization is not conquered from without until it has destroyed itself from within. " - W. Durant
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08-16-2005
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Originally Posted by WoodysGirl
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Stir that pot 
RIP Weldon "Pops" Parkhill....I will miss you my friend
 R.I.P. Renee I miss you sis
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08-16-2005
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Instincts to another flow
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Originally Posted by Yeagermeister
Stir that pot 
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Should I change from Lightning Mod to Instigator??? 
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