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View Poll Results: If you could solve one problem, what would it be?
Free Safety 78 46.43%
Conservative/predictable offense 10 5.95%
Lack of pass rush/QB pressure 59 35.12%
Placekicker 20 11.90%
Punt returner 1 0.60%
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Old 09-26-2005   #1
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Default If you could solve one problem...

After watching 3 games so far, if you could solve only 1 of these problems, which would it be?

1) Free safety
2) Conservative/predictable offense
3) Lack of Pass rush/QB pressure
4) Placekicker
5) Punt returner
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Old 09-26-2005   #2
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Number three, mainly because with that I belive we have an automatically better FS.
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I don't think of the offense as too conservative or predicatable. I think the offensive play calling is too inconsistent. They get away from things that are going well at times and too cute at other times. This is a run the ball, control the game clock offense. I have no problem with that. I just think Payton out thinks himself sometimes and that leads to inconsistent drives.

I guess I should just answer the question and that would be Free Safety. And that isn't that fair either because it is really both safeties because both are responsible in pass coverage. They both need to improve.
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I have to say (2) Conservative/predictable offense.... Because against the Chargers, Redskins, and 49ers, it was plays that you just think why did they call this play, for example: Against the Redskins on 3rd and 15 with 6:38 seconds in the 4th Quarter the Bill Parcells and Sean Payton calls a HB Dive up the middle with Tyson Thompson, and Tyson Thompson is more of a sweep or pitch back because of his bursting speed, the middle?, that was as conservative as you can get....

Keith Davis isn't a bad free-safety, he just needs to learn a couple of things, that's why he's starting. You have other people that needs to learn alot. Keith Davis could come up big this upcoming week against the Raiders....with a lot of FF and Hard Hits...

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I'm surprised that Free Safety got most of the responses here.

Maybe that weak link affects the whole D strategy.

If that's the case, BP should be whipped for not filling the hole with a better Free Safety.

Hopefully, Davis will learn not to be so aggressive in his reaction to plays.
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I didn't vote because the one thing I would change is to get a new DC. I've been saying it for many years now, since Zimmer was the DB coach, he stinks!
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I voted "Kicker" only because this is a position directly involved in scoring points. Also the pressure is taken off an offense when they know they got a kicker they can count on to add points. With that pressure off, offenses play better because they play looser. Just ask the Ptriots offense how much they value Vinatteri (sp?). A solid kicker can take a team to a whole new level.

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I voted for the offensive fix.
If you fix this you put the other team under the gun even more than they are now. We are possessing the ball for an average of 32 minutes a game so far.
Better offense - with a few scores mixed in - would make other teams play from behind.
Thus making them throw more.
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I'd go with a new offense. I want to see some Colts' type fireworks.
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FS coverage problems needs to be adressed NOW.

Pass rush also needs to improve, i think we can do some different things as players become more familiar with schemes and each other.

Offense is fine IMO, the offense is coming together faster than i expected. blesoe and key seem to be on the same page and hooking up when it counts the most. bledsoe and glenn are playing well together, witten will get more involved, O Line is doing a great job and Jones is going to have a good year. We even ran a screen and picked up good yards yesterday.

Im really happy with the offensive play calling (except for 4th and 1 on your own 30) but parcells is going to do that a lot. he beleives in using all 4 downs at times.
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Anyone that picked FS needs to take Football 101. A FS isn't gonna help our pass defense NEARLY as much as a pass rush. With a FS, a QB would still get time to throw and if a QB has time to throw your DBs WILL get beat.

With a pass rush it doesn't matter who you have a FS, he won't have time to throw and he'll be rushing passes. Larry Allen could be the FS and he'd end up with 5 picks.
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Anyone that picked FS needs to take Football 101. A FS isn't gonna help our pass defense NEARLY as much as a pass rush. With a FS, a QB would still get time to throw and if a QB has time to throw your DBs WILL get beat.

With a pass rush it doesn't matter who you have a FS, he won't have time to throw and he'll be rushing passes. Larry Allen could be the FS and he'd end up with 5 picks.
K Collins had time to throw yesterday, but some guy named dawkins kept breaking up his passes.
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I'm surprised that Free Safety got most of the responses here.

Maybe that weak link affects the whole D strategy.

If that's the case, BP should be whipped for not filling the hole with a better Free Safety.

Hopefully, Davis will learn not to be so aggressive in his reaction to plays.
Exactly, this is why I said the FS issue. I think that we have the FS here, he just needs to show up and do his job, whether its Pile or davis. I personally thought pile did an excellent job when he was in on sunday. And I think if we keep him in there, he'll continue to stiffen our D. Until we get where we want, our D strategy will not be as aggressive to allow some help for that area. JMO, but I thinkwe have everything we need. The kicker is definitely a close second!!
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K Collins had time to throw yesterday, but some guy named dawkins kept breaking up his passes.

That must be why he had such a horrible game throwing for 345 yards and 2 TDs, with NO interceptions.

Thanks for proving my point for me.
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Pash rush with out a doubt.When we starting getting more pressure on the QB, the DB's and the safetys will be fine.
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