Originally Posted by TwoDeep3
So then, the receiver in Irvin might cause him to suggest a DB is lacking, but would not cause him to say complimentary things about a quarterback?
Funny how loyalties lie with the offense in one case but not another.
Deep, I was only wondering if it was the receiver in Irvin that possibly led him to diss the cornerback situation.
It's not like I came out and called Mike an idiot for questioning the position across from Terence Newman.
Except for Pete Hunter, I haven't even seen the other candidates at right corner play.
I know Hunter has the tools to become a solid starter, especially if the pass rush awakens, but no one knows if Pete has the proper mindset to handle the position on a fulltime basis.
We'll have to see that on the field.
Considering all the talent on the defensive side of the ball and the player who Hunter must replace, I don't think it's a big leap to believe Hunter will be up to the task.
As for Irvin feeling a big receiver will help Carter and that it was unfair to judge him without one, it'd be pretty easy to say that was the homer in Irv rearing its head.
Not only for the Cowboys, but also for the receiver position in general.
But does that mean Irv's claim is totally without merit?
I don't think so.
Look on the bright side, it's one less "excuse" in Carter's defense.
Q has a big, physical lead receiver now.
Originally Posted by SALADIN
Far right republican or far left democratic platform which is it gona be Bluefiiin
Fin doesn't really know his politics, what would you call a 24/7 Cowboys platform?
Originally Posted by Danny White
As much as I want Irvin to be wrong on this, the odds are in his favor that he's right.
We have a bunch of untested, unheralded guys vying for a starting position. While we homers hope the best for our diamonds in the rough, it would be more surprising than not if we found a solid starter out of this group.
Irvin may be a clown sometimes, but he knows more about the game than any of us here. Sometimes the truth hurts.
Irvin may be right, but we really haven't seen that much of any of the candidates.
Pete Hunter had a hard time early in the year trying to play with one arm and eventually relingished the nickel spot to Derek Ross.
Hunter looked a lot better when he received a second chance after Ross' unfortunate release.
And learning to play the slot is no picnic, IMO.
There's no sideline to help out, the wideout often get a free release due to lining up off the line of scrimmage or being in motion and he has a large area to get open in.
I believe it's easier to find a comfort zone on the outside.
Originally Posted by big dog cowboy
Sorry bro I 'aint on board with that. Mario wasn't all that bad? BP's biggest mistake to date? I guess we will see but it's my opinion we won't see any drop off at that position.
That's the question in my mind, how hard will it be to replace a starter who registered 1 interception, 8 passes defensed and 44 tackles?
Rio didn't make plays and he was a target because of his lack of recovery speed.
Pete Hunter finished with 1 interception, 4 passes defensed and and 16 tackles in about one quarter of the plays Edwards had.
Any corner is going to get beat and give up some big plays, but I believe Hunter will make more plays in return than Rio did.
It'd be hard not to, IMO.
Originally Posted by BrAinPaiNt
Just curious...do you believe and agree with everything that Bill says...even if he is saying good things about QC?
IMO your argument is weak because most of us have things that we may or may not agree with when someone else says something (such as Bill, Jerry, Irvin and so on).
How can someone call people out for being homers and then be upset when they don't agree with everything an ex-Cowboy says?
Originally Posted by MichaelWinicki
Can I answer!
Is it because many have a certain type of "love" for Quincy that they have yet to develop for Hunter?
Not in my case.
Pete Hunter is one of my favorite players on the team.
But I didn't let my personal feeling for Hunter to get in the way.
I don't know if he's going to be the answer on the right side or that Irvin was wrong about the spot.
I do expect Hunter to handle the job, but I'm not going to say it's an absolute and I also wondered if it wasn't the receiver in Irvin coming out.
Originally Posted by speedkilz88
Hunter was originally a corner at Virginia Union. The only reason he was switched to FS was that opponents would not throw his way and the coaches did what a lot of small colleges do in this situation and moved him to the centerfield position to get him around the ball.
What got the scouts' eye was his size/speed combination. In a workout by the Cowboy's former db coach(Clancy Pendergrast) he wowed him with cornerback skills(quickness/cutting ability). From day one the coaching staff always said that he didn't have the run support ability to be a FS and is more valuable at corner with his physical skills. BP has said pretty much the same last season.
Pete Hunter didn't play much as a freshman in '98.
In '99, Hunter was selected an All-CIAA cornerback with 6 interceptions and ten deflections along with 2 sacks and 6 tackles for loss. Pete also recovered 2 fumbles.
In '00, Hunter was again first team All-CIAA starting every game as a strong safety and boudary cornerback. Pete had 3 interceptions, 13 deflcetions, 1 sack and 9 tackles for loss. He also had 3 fumble recoveries and 2 forced fumbles.
In '01, Hunter shifted to free safety and was an All-CIAA first team choice. Pete was also acknowledged as a Little All-American by The NFL Draft Report
and received national first team honors from Football Gazette
Hunter logged 11 interceptions and deflected 7 others, had 50 tackles with a pair for losses, forced and recovered a fumble and blocked 7 kicks while also calling out defensive signals for the first time.
Hunter was never allowed to grow at any position while at Virginia Union and the biggest reward for the Cowboys will be if he can become a starting cornerback.
We'll see what happens.