Question for the Forum

[BHendri5]

I know everyone likes to disagree with me because ! I am very opinionated, and 2. I do come off as being arrogant. LOL and 3. I like to get people going on purpose mostly because I'm bored.

But we as Cowboy fans are very anxious for this season to began, for a number of reasons, mostly because of certain players and but as a team mainly.

This is my question: Is it in the back of anyone else's mind besides mine, that this could possibly be arepeat of the 1992 season all over again?

The so called experts said that we overachieved in 1991, and they did not think that in 92 we would do as well. Last season they picked us for 5-11 again, 10-6 happened and they said we overachieved.

I'm ready, I don't care who lead this team to the playoffs but this season will be better than last season, I just believe Carter will shut up the nay sayers.

Simple question, and you can bash me if you like.
Shift change catch you guys in, hey I forgot I get a whole 1 day off later.

[Roughneck]

This is my question: Is it in the back of anyone else's mind besides mine, that this could possibly be arepeat of the 1992 season all over again?

No, because (and keep in mind that this is only a mere outline):

-the Defense, while damn good, isn't dominating like their '92 counterparts

-while Keyshawn Johnson is a good possession Wide Receiver, he is no Michael Irvin

-while Julius Jones could prove himself to be a fine NFL Running Back, he is sure as Hell no Emmitt Smith

-while, whomever the starting QB proves himself to be, may be a great fit for this team, there is no way that he is the guy in my signature

[BHendri5]

Originally Posted by Roughneck

No.

Because:

-the Defense, while damn good, isn't dominating like their '92 counterparts

-while Keyshawn Johnson is a good possession Wide Receiver, he is no Michael Irvin

-while Julius Jones could prove himself to be a fine NFL Running Back, he is sure as Hell no Emmitt Smith

-while, whomever the starting QB proves himself to be, may be the a great fit for this team, there is no way that he is the guy in my signature

True the defense is good, but what they do not have that the 92 defense had is depth, we rotated a lot of players then.

And true Key is not Irvin, but he is a chain mover and he is big and he will light a fire under his teammates and the coaching staff.

True JJ is not Emmitt, he may turn out to be a very big surprise to us and the NFL, he may never be as great as Emmitt and he may never play as long as Emmitt, but he has more speed than Emmitt ever had and his speed is game breaking speed.

And true whomever the QB is he will never be aikman he will be his own person, he may turn out to be better than aikman(possible) and he may just equal aikman or fall just a ring or 2 short, but we do not know what will happen right now. Waht we do know is that it took aikman 4yrs to lead us to a SB and the current starter is in his 4th season.

That should be enough to make anyone think twice

[jimmy40]

Originally Posted by CowboynIRAQ

I know everyone likes to disagree with me because ! I am very opinionated, and 2. I do come off as being arrogant. LOL and 3. I like to get people going on purpose mostly because I'm bored.

But we as Cowboy fans are very anxious for this season to began, for a number of reasons, mostly because of certain players and but as a team mainly.

This is my question: Is it in the back of anyone else's mind besides mine, that this could possibly be arepeat of the 1992 season all over again?

The so called experts said that we overachieved in 1991, and they did not think that in 92 we would do as well. Last season they picked us for 5-11 again, 10-6 happened and they said we overachieved.

I'm ready, I don't care who lead this team to the playoffs but this season will be better than last season, I just believe Carter will shut up the nay sayers.

Simple question, and you can bash me if you like.
[View Full Quote]Shift change catch you guys in, hey I forgot I get a whole 1 day off later.

Things must be going very well over there if you're so bored.

[Hostile]

Originally Posted by CowboynIRAQ

I know everyone likes to disagree with me because ! I am very opinionated, and 2. I do come off as being arrogant. LOL and 3. I like to get people going on purpose mostly because I'm bored.

I used to enjoy getting in debates with you. You never answer questions though so it is more boring than watching the grass grow.

But we as Cowboy fans are very anxious for this season to began, for a number of reasons, mostly because of certain players and but as a team mainly.

That last statement is a head scratcher. "Mostly...certain players" and "team mainly?" How does that work. I know, I know, you won't answer that.

There are no certain players for me. I am not loyal to the players like I am loyal to the team. There are players I like more and expect more of, but if something happens to that player I can go on.

This is my question: Is it in the back of anyone else's mind besides mine, that this could possibly be arepeat of the 1992 season all over again?

Not for me until Henson is ready. Our defense still has a ways to go. I think 2005 is far more likely as a year we can run at the Super Bowl. Adding 2 first round draft picks can do nothing but help get us there. In addition we have 2 and possibly even 3 players on the O-line who have no NFL experience. A few more growing pains before they are ready. To me 2004 is about growing pains.

The so called experts said that we overachieved in 1991, and they did not think that in 92 we would do as well. Last season they picked us for 5-11 again, 10-6 happened and they said we overachieved.

I'd rather overachieve than underachieve. To me that is a compliment not a condemnation. The more they say that the happier it makes me.

I'm ready, I don't care who lead this team to the playoffs but this season will be better than last season, I just believe Carter will shut up the nay sayers.

Simple question, and you can bash me if you like.
Shift change catch you guys in, hey I forgot I get a whole 1 day off later.

Hard for me to buy that you don't care who leads the team. 90% of your posts are about 1 player. To me that is caring.

The countdown can't roll fast enough for me. This off season is dragging way too much.

[blindzebra]

We have the makings of a better defense, but because of the cap we have nowhere near the depth.

Aikman had a very good 3rd year his QB rating went up almost 20 points.

Emmitt was a proven back and Irvin was already a play maker.

The OL was better and deeper in 91.

If any comparison can be made I'd say we are closer to the 90 season where we were near .500 going into the 91 season.

[Bluefin]

Originally Posted by CowboynIRAQ

But we as Cowboy fans are very anxious for this season to began, for a number of reasons, mostly because of certain players and but as a team mainly.

I think most everyone has their favorite players and hopes to see them succeed along with the team.

I have my favorites, but the bottom line is team success and whoever helps that goal.

It sucks that Derek Ross washed out, I predicted him to lead the team in interceptions, but I understood the reasons for the move and backed the decision.

Others didn't and it was their right to do so.

This is my question: Is it in the back of anyone else's mind besides mine, that this could possibly be arepeat of the 1992 season all over again?

It's in the back of my mind.

Carter is entering his fourth season and second year in Parcells' system just like Troy Aikman under Norv Turner.

The defense looks poised to take the next step and acquired a free agent pass rusher just like the "92 unit's expectations with Charles Haley.

The team surprised prognosticators by making the playoffs last year and most don't think they will better last year's record even with various improvements.

That's similar to the story in '91, but I believe most "experts" thought Dallas would take another step in '92 while not making it all the way.

I'm ready, I don't care who lead this team to the playoffs but this season will be better than last season, I just believe Carter will shut up the nay sayers.

If Carter shows he can do the job, most fans will likely give him credit for it.

Some won't, but I'm thankful they're in the minority.

I know several posters on another board who disappeared after Carter won the job and the team was having success with him.

They returned after poor performances in the second half of the season and attacked Carter any way they could think of.

I'm simply not like that.

If Carter loses his job to Vinny Testaverde via performance or injury and the team plays better, that's all that matters.

I'm not going to put my hopes for one player improving over the fate of the team and live in a hole if he doesn't succeed.

Fans don't do that, IMO.

Originally Posted by Roughneck

No, because (and keep in mind that this is only a mere outline):

-the Defense, while damn good, isn't dominating like their '92 counterparts

Wouldn't it be fair to say the defense wasn't dominating?

The '91 unit wasn't either.

The D progressed to a dominant unit in '92 with Haley, Everett, Pup, etc.

The '04 unit has similar potential to take the next step, the two starters who have been let go from last year were chinks in the armour, IMO.

-while Keyshawn Johnson is a good possession Wide Receiver, he is no Michael Irvin

No, he's not.

But Johnson is a better fit for the offense than Galloway was and he should help the unit improve.

-while Julius Jones could prove himself to be a fine NFL Running Back, he is sure as Hell no Emmitt Smith

No doubt.

But the committee led by Julius Jones this year should be better than what we had last year and make the offense better.

-while, whomever the starting QB proves himself to be, may be a great fit for this team, there is no way that he is the guy in my signature

Aikman in Turner's system was like groovy karma.

They were made for each for each other.

I don't think we're going to see that with any quarterback this year or any time soon.

However, if the defense takes the step to domination and the running game surfaces, Dallas should be able to get solid enough play from whoever's the quarterback to be a contender.

It isn't as difficult to go all the way these days and the most important piece is the head coach, IMO.

Dallas has one.

Making the jump to true contender isn't the vast leap some would make it out to be.

Dallas' offense ranked close to both Super Bowl teams last year in several categories (YPG, TDs, 3rd down %).

Getting improvement in each phase, even minimal in some cases, should really set the team up for more success, IMO.

Originally Posted by Hostile

Not for me until Henson is ready. Our defense still has a ways to go. I think 2005 is far more likely as a year we can run at the Super Bowl. Adding 2 first round draft picks can do nothing but help get us there. In addition we have 2 and possibly even 3 players on the O-line who have no NFL experience. A few more growing pains before they are ready. To me 2004 is about growing pains.

If Henson is ready in '05, wouldn't that be a lot to ask of a first time starter?

Uber-talent and all, Henson's going to have a learning curve and need time to develop even after he gets on the field.

Do you anticipate any starts for Henson late this year?

That would help get him ready for '05 and allow for more hope, IMO.

I'd rather overachieve than underachieve. To me that is a compliment not a condemnation. The more they say that the happier it makes me.

Absolutely.

Good, hard working teams regularly overachieve.

Give me a team of hard workers and and I'll wipe the floor with a franchise that has a couple of star players getting all the accolades.

Originally Posted by blindzebra

We have the makings of a better defense, but because of the cap we have nowhere near the depth.

Dallas is fairly deep on the defensive line this year and Parcells is expecting big improvements from the unit and certain individual players.

Bradie James will give the team a fourth linebacker to use in sub-packages if not start.

Donald Mitchell returns to the slot after missing the entire season and the young corners should be more prepared for increased roles.

Keith Davis may give the unit an actual free safety for the change-up defenses, something I was beginning to believe was against team rules.

There's quite a bit of depth on defense and a lot of it is youthful dripping with energy and enthusiasm.

At any rate, Dallas should have more depth on defense than last year's unit and it was a very good outfit as it was.

[blindzebra]

Originally Posted by Bluefin

I think most everyone has their favorite players and hopes to see them succeed along with the team.

I have my favorites, but the bottom line is team success and whoever helps that goal.

It sucks that Derek Ross washed out, I predicted him to lead the team in interceptions, but I understood the reasons for the move and backed the decision.

Others didn't and it was their right to do so.



It's in the back of my mind.

Carter is entering his fourth season and second year in Parcells' system just like Troy Aikman under Norv Turner.

The defense looks poised to take the next step and acquired a free agent pass rusher just like the "92 unit's expectations with Charles Haley.

The team surprised prognosticators by making the playoffs last year and most don't think they will better last year's record even with various improvements.

[View Full Quote]That's similar to the story in '91, but I believe most "experts" thought Dallas would take another step in '92 while not making it all the way.




If Carter shows he can do the job, most fans will likely give him credit for it.

Some won't, but I'm thankful they're in the minority.

I know several posters on another board who disappeared after Carter won the job and the team was having success with him.

They returned after poor performances in the second half of the season and attacked Carter any way they could think of.

I'm simply not like that.

If Carter loses his job to Vinny Testaverde via performance or injury and the team plays better, that's all that matters.

I'm not going to put my hopes for one player improving over the fate of the team and live in a hole if he doesn't succeed.

Fans don't do that, IMO.




Wouldn't it be fair to say the defense wasn't dominating?

The '91 unit wasn't either.

The D progressed to a dominant unit in '92 with Haley, Everett, Pup, etc.

The '04 unit has similar potential to take the next step, the two starters who have been let go from last year were chinks in the armour, IMO.




No, he's not.

But Johnson is a better fit for the offense than Galloway was and he should help the unit improve.




No doubt.

But the committee led by Julius Jones this year should be better than what we had last year and make the offense better.



Aikman in Turner's system was like groovy karma.

They were made for each for each other.

I don't think we're going to see that with any quarterback this year or any time soon.

However, if the defense takes the step to domination and the running game surfaces, Dallas should be able to get solid enough play from whoever's the quarterback to be a contender.

It isn't as difficult to go all the way these days and the most important piece is the head coach, IMO.

Dallas has one.

Making the jump to true contender isn't the vast leap some would make it out to be.

Dallas' offense ranked close to both Super Bowl teams last year in several categories (YPG, TDs, 3rd down %).

Getting improvement in each phase, even minimal in some cases, should really set the team up for more success, IMO.




If Henson is ready in '05, wouldn't that be a lot to ask of a first time starter?

Uber-talent and all, Henson's going to have a learning curve and need time to develop even after he gets on the field.

Do you anticipate any starts for Henson late this year?

That would help get him ready for '05 and allow for more hope, IMO.




Absolutely.

Good, hard working teams regularly overachieve.

Give me a team of hard workers and and I'll wipe the floor with a franchise that has a couple of star players getting all the accolades.




Dallas is fairly deep on the defensive line this year and Parcells is expecting big improvements from the unit and certain individual players.

Bradie James will give the team a fourth linebacker to use in sub-packages if not start.

Donald Mitchell returns to the slot after missing the entire season and the young corners should be more prepared for increased roles.

Keith Davis may give the unit an actual free safety for the change-up defenses, something I was beginning to believe was against team rules.

There's quite a bit of depth on defense and a lot of it is youthful dripping with energy and enthusiasm.

At any rate, Dallas should have more depth on defense than last year's unit and it was a very good outfit as it was.

The 92 team had Jeffcoat, Lett, Hennings, and Jones coming off the bench on the DL with starters Haley, Casillas, Maryland and Tolbert. Glover would crack the starting line up and Ellis would be a back up, I really can't say anyone else on our current DL makes the team.

We had Vinson Smith, Robert Jones, and Ken Norton starting at LB with Myles, Edwards, and Pruitt as back ups. I'd say our starters are close, but Myles and Edwards are much better than our current reserves.

We had Kevin Smith and Larry Brown at CB with Holt and Holmes behind them.
Everett and Washington started at safety with Gant, Horton, Williams and some guy named Woodson as back ups.

[crazylegs]

Originally Posted by CowboynIRAQ

I know everyone likes to disagree with me because ! I am very opinionated, and 2. I do come off as being arrogant. LOL and 3. I like to get people going on purpose mostly because I'm bored.

But we as Cowboy fans are very anxious for this season to began, for a number of reasons, mostly because of certain players and but as a team mainly.

This is my question: Is it in the back of anyone else's mind besides mine, that this could possibly be arepeat of the 1992 season all over again?

The so called experts said that we overachieved in 1991, and they did not think that in 92 we would do as well. Last season they picked us for 5-11 again, 10-6 happened and they said we overachieved.

I'm ready, I don't care who lead this team to the playoffs but this season will be better than last season, I just believe Carter will shut up the nay sayers.

Simple question, and you can bash me if you like.
[View Full Quote]Shift change catch you guys in, hey I forgot I get a whole 1 day off later.

To answer this question is simple.

Back in 1992 I could only think of a few cowboy players that I would hands down want to trade position to postion another team for.

We had almost the best players at every position IMO and they where still young.

Today I really can only think of 1 maybe 2 players that I wouldn't trade away in a heart beat.

The cowboys are lack luster at best today at every position and I don't buy into this always improving every year thoery. If that were the case then every team every year would always have a better record.

That's just not mathamatically possibe.

[Tio]

Originally Posted by CowboynIRAQ

True the defense is good, but what they do not have that the 92 defense had is depth, we rotated a lot of players then.

And true Key is not Irvin, but he is a chain mover and he is big and he will light a fire under his teammates and the coaching staff.

True JJ is not Emmitt, he may turn out to be a very big surprise to us and the NFL, he may never be as great as Emmitt and he may never play as long as Emmitt, but he has more speed than Emmitt ever had and his speed is game breaking speed.

And true whomever the QB is he will never be aikman he will be his own person, he may turn out to be better than aikman(possible) and he may just equal aikman or fall just a ring or 2 short, but we do not know what will happen right now. Waht we do know is that it took aikman 4yrs to lead us to a SB and the current starter is in his 4th season.

That should be enough to make anyone think twice

No freakin way. The difference between irvin and keyshawn is irvin isn't slow, and he is a playmaker.

I like julius, but there is no rb better than emmit, and we shouldn't expect to find one in the 2nd round.

There is only one qb on this team that has the physical and mental capabilities that aikman had. And he isn't ready yet.

Now, in 2005 you have something to really look forward to. Julius will either show us he is a franchise back, or we get the cadillac. RBs are nfl ready as rookies(mostly). Assuming julius shows top form, we get mike williams...well hopefully we get him, buffalo has to really suck though. If Williams is gone,
then we got DT CB or DE. This guy has to be a playmaker, he will identify our defense like Roy and Newman do now....im getting off topic...

[Doomsday101]

Originally Posted by CowboynIRAQ

I know everyone likes to disagree with me because ! I am very opinionated, and 2. I do come off as being arrogant. LOL and 3. I like to get people going on purpose mostly because I'm bored.

But we as Cowboy fans are very anxious for this season to began, for a number of reasons, mostly because of certain players and but as a team mainly.

This is my question: Is it in the back of anyone else's mind besides mine, that this could possibly be arepeat of the 1992 season all over again?

The so called experts said that we overachieved in 1991, and they did not think that in 92 we would do as well. Last season they picked us for 5-11 again, 10-6 happened and they said we overachieved.

I'm ready, I don't care who lead this team to the playoffs but this season will be better than last season, I just believe Carter will shut up the nay sayers.

Simple question, and you can bash me if you like.
[View Full Quote]Shift change catch you guys in, hey I forgot I get a whole 1 day off later.

I don't think this team is ready for a major run at a Super Bowl this year, now I hope I'm wrong on this but being realistic I just don't see it happening this season.

[BHendri5]

Originally Posted by Hostile

I used to enjoy getting in debates with you. You never answer questions though so it is more boring than watching the grass grow.



That last statement is a head scratcher. "Mostly...certain players" and "team mainly?" How does that work. I know, I know, you won't answer that.

There are no certain players for me. I am not loyal to the players like I am loyal to the team. There are players I like more and expect more of, but if something happens to that player I can go on.



Not for me until Henson is ready. Our defense still has a ways to go. I think 2005 is far more likely as a year we can run at the Super Bowl. Adding 2 first round draft picks can do nothing but help get us there. In addition we have 2 and possibly even 3 players on the O-line who have no NFL experience. A few more growing pains before they are ready. To me 2004 is about growing pains.



[View Full Quote]I'd rather overachieve than underachieve. To me that is a compliment not a condemnation. The more they say that the happier it makes me.



Hard for me to buy that you don't care who leads the team. 90% of your posts are about 1 player. To me that is caring.

The countdown can't roll fast enough for me. This off season is dragging way too much.

90% of the posts here period are about one player, it's not just me. I only respond to the negativity about that one person.

Now You say that it's hard for you to believe that I am for the team first, I can shoot that back at you , after that "not for me not until Henson takes over" That sounds like one player over the team to me.

Everry season a team has some kind of growing pains.

It should not be a head scratcher, you just mentioned growing pains, The statement mostly some players was referring to Jones, AB, Hunter, Gurode, Allen, Carter, Key, whoever the FB will be, Johnson, etc. Team mainly means how the team plays after having unexpected success last season "will they continue to Improve on last season and get better etc.

Yes, adding 2 first rd picks should help, 1st rd picks have flopped before. 2005, you still talking that " amke arun for the SB in 2005"?
We want to make a run for the SB every season, including this season. I bet you will not hear players, coaches nor the owners talking that making a run in 2005, they want to do it now, with the current Starter at QB.

I'll answer questions, I have no problem with that. I do not answer questions that I feel people should already know the answer too, or sarcastic question, your questions always be one or the other.

[BHendri5]

Originally Posted by jimmy40

Things must be going very well over there if you're so bored.

Nope, I'll put it this way, where I am this time, all I due is receive reports all night long and that is all I can divulge.

[BHendri5]

Originally Posted by blindzebra

We have the makings of a better defense, but because of the cap we have nowhere near the depth.

Aikman had a very good 3rd year his QB rating went up almost 20 points.

Emmitt was a proven back and Irvin was already a play maker.

The OL was better and deeper in 91.

If any comparison can be made I'd say we are closer to the 90 season where we were near .500 going into the 91 season.

Okay, I can understand that, but we had a better record last season than that 90 team, but I can understand your thinking.

Thanks

[Tio]

Originally Posted by CowboynIRAQ

90% of the posts here period are about one player, it's not just me. I only respond to the negativity about that one person.

Now You say that it's hard for you to believe that I am for the team first, I can shoot that back at you , after that "not for me not until Henson takes over" That sounds like one player over the team to me.

Everry season a team has some kind of growing pains.

It should not be a head scratcher, you just mentioned growing pains, The statement mostly some players was referring to Jones, AB, Hunter, Gurode, Allen, Carter, Key, whoever the FB will be, Johnson, etc. Team mainly means how the team plays after having unexpected success last season "will they continue to Improve on last season and get better etc.

Yes, adding 2 first rd picks should help, 1st rd picks have flopped before. 2005, you still talking that " amke arun for the SB in 2005"?
[View Full Quote]We want to make a run for the SB every season, including this season. I bet you will not hear players, coaches nor the owners talking that making a run in 2005, they want to do it now, with the current Starter at QB.

I'll answer questions, I have no problem with that. I do not answer questions that I feel people should already know the answer too, or sarcastic question, your questions always be one or the other.

Just because we think 2005 is our greatest chance doesn't mean we don't wanna win it all this year, we just feel our team is incapable of it.