The Cowboys 2004 - My Opine

[kbduke]

True Blues,

Normally, I would do this on Yahoo, but it seems to have been overtaken by fools racists, and wanna be wrestling clones etc... I am not giving it up but intelligent postings seem very frivilous and unappreciated these days.

Dallas Offense
Quarterbacks
Quincy Carter is the starter this year and probably the next year as well. Vinny is a competent back up. Of course you are gonna let him compete for the starting position. Why would you let a young impressionable, tempramental quarterback, think his job is safe? Quincy has all the skills to compete and win in this league. He is now a post season winner. Lets face it. Last year he had no running game to speak of, a patch work offensive line that looked like my grandmothers hand sewn blankets, and three starting recievers who dropped the ball 40-50% of the time it hit them in the hands. When he was still at Georgia there were many writers and analysts who compared him to Doug Williams and said he was a future Heisman candidate. If Quincy continues to improve his mechanics, keeps his head up, holds the ball high, studies keys, and defensive schemes, he will continue to start. Drew Henson is another baseball player who realized the reason he played baseball is because he was very good at football. Drew Henson has the ability, he has the arm and he has the accuracy. The questions is "Does he have the mental fortitude and discipline to become a leader? I believe he does, you can sense the pedigree and confidence. But how will he be be after camp and hes been tapped a few times?

Running Backs
Hail to Jerry! Not only did we get Julius Jones as value pick but also picked up a first round selction for next years draft. No question I love his dedication to winning, but leave football to football people. Julius can be our running back for the next eight years. He as quick as Emmit was, faster than Emmit, and can run through the middle. Although we will see how well. Hambricks attempt at replacing Emmitt was alot of talk and sadly nothing more. Now we have an inspired, grateful to have an opportunity to play running back that reminds me of Gayle Sayers when he runs. Julius has a very smooth and pretty stride. Unfortunatley, if he gets injured we could be in trouble. Cason is faster and just as quick, but is too thin in the thighs to handle 16 games 300+ carries. Richie Anderson, "Mr Utility" is getting on in years. Hes been a durable all everything but he isnt a spring chicken anymore either. I do like Rashard Lee. I think he could be a featured back. I just hope he gets the opportunity to show it.


Wide Recievers
If anything Keyshawns locker room leadership should help make this more competitive and get peoples heads in the game. We have sorely missed Michael Irvins intensity and desire since that fateful day in Filthydelphia. He is a proven receiver who will go over the middle and is maybe the best downfield blocking receiver to come out in quite a while. I am prediciting his impact this year to be close to a thousand yards and seven touchdowns. His reception percentage will definitely be better than 50%. That is improvement! Joey Galloway as blessed as he was physically, wasn't the sharpest tack in the box. Not dumb, just not incredibly smart either. Your number one reciever should be able to do more than run a post , a fly pattern and deep in/outs. Tery Glenn was a little better in reception percentages but a little better than 50% means there is alot more room for improvement. With a second year in Bills system and Keyshawn pushing him, I am sure that will improve. Antonio Bryant, who is back in Dallas working out, may have us over a barrel. Being the only other experienced? wide reciever makes him more important than he really should be. He has talent, but unless his attitude improves because Keyshawn was loafing and I had to run all the routes means he just wont make it as a player in this league if he doesnt pull his primma donna head out of his butt and start behaving like a professional. Williams our fourth string receiver is possibly the fastest man alive at 6'4" 220lbs but until he starts producing, he's another broken down porsche in the driveway. Looks good but thats about all.

Tight Ends
The strength of our offense. Cambell, Whitten, and Ryan make this one big talented tight end corp. Whitten should overtake Campbell by midseason just because he has been learning on how to block better and is an incredible receiver. I am looking for alot of double tight end sets this year. I can already picture Whitten on the outside pulling off blocks to be a much needed safety valve for Quincy. All three average 6'5" 265lbs.

Offensive Line
Our offensive line was covered very throughly in another thread so I wont waste much of your reading time. Mostly I believe Dave Volk will make the team and if we can just develop some chemistry on the line. We should be good. Larry Allens temprament and condition with the team is better than what people think it is. I have heard one of his biggest complaints with Bill was being called a horse in the media. He felt Bill should have showed him more respect than what he did in public. Which is why now all you wil hear Bill say is he is fine and doing what he needs to. Al Johnson is going to be our center for the next ten years. When I saw him with Dandy Don in San Antonio, even though when he went up against Larry Allen in blocking drills and Larry would hit him so hard his feet were leaving the ground, (It was that way with all the other guards also) he didn't fall, kep his composure and kept firing back at Larry. Almost saying in his posture and actions "So what! You're big and strong but I'm still here, you aren't putting me on my butt" A center having tenacity, intelligence, and a nasty streak can play on my team anytime.

Next Up......Defense

[LaTunaNostra]

Originally Posted by kbduke

, and three starting recievers who dropped the ball 40-50% of the time it hit them in the hands.

Care to document this?

If so, I for one will be happy to read further.

[Maikeru-sama]

You offer some pretty good analysis on how you think things will play out.

Only part I disagree with is the TEs being the strength of the team. I think the strength of the team lies at Wide Receiver. Keyshawn Johnson, Terry Glenn, and Antonio Bryant all pose major threats to any Defense in the NFL.

Also, I think Larry Allen being called "Secretariat" by Bill Parcells really enraged him. Also, I feel he had some problems mentally coming to grips with the fact that he is not as dominant as he use to be. Most great players go through that stage.

Also, QC is not a Post Season winner just yet. I remember his coach in College said he would be a 1st round pick if he left his Sophmore year. So he probably does have some tools to take it to the next level, he just needs to cut down on the INTs and work on his mechanics a little more.

Here is the article where his coach said:

''He would have been a first-round pick, but where he would go in there was pretty much based on each team's need,'' Donnan said.''Middle to late first round is what we got from most of the people that we talked to.''

LINK

Also, what part of Dallas are you from? I was Born and raised in Oak Cliff (6th grade) but now live in Irving.

- Mike G.

[Tio]

Welcome to the board. Its great and most of the fans know what they are talking about...

Originally Posted by kbduke

True Blues,

Normally, I would do this on Yahoo, but it seems to have been overtaken by fools racists, and wanna be wrestling clones etc... I am not giving it up but intelligent postings seem very frivilous and unappreciated these days.

this is a much better board anyway. You will stay and fall in love with it...

Dallas Offense
Quarterbacks
[View Full Quote]Quincy Carter is the starter this year and probably the next year as well. Vinny is a competent back up. Of course you are gonna let him compete for the starting position. Why would you let a young impressionable, tempramental quarterback, think his job is safe? Quincy has all the skills to compete and win in this league. He is now a post season winner. Lets face it. Last year he had no running game to speak of, a patch work offensive line that looked like my grandmothers hand sewn blankets, and three starting recievers who dropped the ball 40-50% of the time it hit them in the hands. When he was still at Georgia there were many writers and analysts who compared him to Doug Williams and said he was a future Heisman candidate. If Quincy continues to improve his mechanics, keeps his head up, holds the ball high, studies keys, and defensive schemes, he will continue to start. Drew Henson is another baseball player who realized the reason he played baseball is because he was very good at football. Drew Henson has the ability, he has the arm and he has the accuracy. The questions is "Does he have the mental fortitude and discipline to become a leader? I believe he does, you can sense the pedigree and confidence. But how will he be be after camp and hes been tapped a few times?

To think Vinny doesn't have a chance (which you are implying) is follish. If the offensive line proves to be adequate in pass blocking, then quincy's only advantage becomes mute.

Correction, quincy is a player that has been in the postseason, he hasn't won.

Our reciever didn't drop anywhere near 50% drops, because if they did, they would be out of the NFL. That was bold face lie/assumption.

Quincy has improved in mechanics(he couldn't even take a snap in his rookie year)But he still has horrible ones.

You are deadon with drew henson

Running Backs
[View Full Quote]Hail to Jerry! Not only did we get Julius Jones as value pick but also picked up a first round selction for next years draft. No question I love his dedication to winning, but leave football to football people. Julius can be our running back for the next eight years. He as quick as Emmit was, faster than Emmit, and can run through the middle. Although we will see how well. Hambricks attempt at replacing Emmitt was alot of talk and sadly nothing more. Now we have an inspired, grateful to have an opportunity to play running back that reminds me of Gayle Sayers when he runs. Julius has a very smooth and pretty stride. Unfortunatley, if he gets injured we could be in trouble. Cason is faster and just as quick, but is too thin in the thighs to handle 16 games 300+ carries. Richie Anderson, "Mr Utility" is getting on in years. Hes been a durable all everything but he isnt a spring chicken anymore either. I do like Rashard Lee. I think he could be a featured back. I just hope he gets the opportunity to show it.

Though I think Julius will soon become a premier back, Id rather be bragging about stephen jackson.

You area little to optimistic with your last statement. Most team have guys like Reshard Lee. If he gets an oopurtunity, you can kiss our season down the drain if its more than 3 weeks.

Wide Recievers
[View Full Quote]If anything Keyshawns locker room leadership should help make this more competitive and get peoples heads in the game. We have sorely missed Michael Irvins intensity and desire since that fateful day in Filthydelphia. He is a proven receiver who will go over the middle and is maybe the best downfield blocking receiver to come out in quite a while. I am prediciting his impact this year to be close to a thousand yards and seven touchdowns. His reception percentage will definitely be better than 50%. That is improvement! Joey Galloway as blessed as he was physically, wasn't the sharpest tack in the box. Not dumb, just not incredibly smart either. Your number one reciever should be able to do more than run a post , a fly pattern and deep in/outs. Tery Glenn was a little better in reception percentages but a little better than 50% means there is alot more room for improvement. With a second year in Bills system and Keyshawn pushing him, I am sure that will improve. Antonio Bryant, who is back in Dallas working out, may have us over a barrel. Being the only other experienced? wide reciever makes him more important than he really should be. He has talent, but unless his attitude improves because Keyshawn was loafing and I had to run all the routes means he just wont make it as a player in this league if he doesnt pull his primma donna head out of his butt and start behaving like a professional. Williams our fourth string receiver is possibly the fastest man alive at 6'4" 220lbs but until he starts producing, he's another broken down porsche in the driveway. Looks good but thats about all.

Again with that 50% lie...

Our guys all have physical potential...

Tight Ends
The strength of our offense. Cambell, Whitten, and Ryan make this one big talented tight end corp. Whitten should overtake Campbell by midseason just because he has been learning on how to block better and is an incredible receiver. I am looking for alot of double tight end sets this year. I can already picture Whitten on the outside pulling off blocks to be a much needed safety valve for Quincy. All three average 6'5" 265lbs.

Our grteatest asset that I expect bill to take advantage of. Good assesment.

Offensive Line
[View Full Quote]Our offensive line was covered very throughly in another thread so I wont waste much of your reading time. Mostly I believe Dave Volk will make the team and if we can just develop some chemistry on the line. We should be good. Larry Allens temprament and condition with the team is better than what people think it is. I have heard one of his biggest complaints with Bill was being called a horse in the media. He felt Bill should have showed him more respect than what he did in public. Which is why now all you wil hear Bill say is he is fine and doing what he needs to. Al Johnson is going to be our center for the next ten years. When I saw him with Dandy Don in San Antonio, even though when he went up against Larry Allen in blocking drills and Larry would hit him so hard his feet were leaving the ground, (It was that way with all the other guards also) he didn't fall, kep his composure and kept firing back at Larry. Almost saying in his posture and actions "So what! You're big and strong but I'm still here, you aren't putting me on my butt" A center having tenacity, intelligence, and a nasty streak can play on my team anytime.

Next Up......Defense

Good assesment. You failed to mention the big gap at the right side though...

Our offense will at best be average. We rely on our defense for a reason. The only thing I will ask of our offense this year is a 1000 yard rusher and less than 20 picks and less than 5 lost fumbles.

[jterrell]

Originally Posted by mickgreen58

You offer some pretty good analysis on how you think things will play out.

Only part I disagree with is the TEs being the strength of the team. I think the strength of the team lies at Wide Receiver. Keyshawn Johnson, Terry Glenn, and Antonio Bryant all pose major threats to any Defense in the NFL.

Also, I think Larry Allen being called "Secretariat" by Bill Parcells really enraged him. Also, I feel he had some problems mentally coming to grips with the fact that he is not as dominant as he use to be. Most great players go through that stage.

Also, QC is not a Post Season winner just yet. I remember his coach in College said he would be a 1st round pick if he left his Sophmore year. So he probably does have some tools to take it to the next level, he just needs to cut down on the INTs and work on his mechanics a little more.

Here is the article where his coach said:



[View Full Quote]LINK

Also, what part of Dallas are you from? I was Born and raised in Oak Cliff (6th grade) but now live in Irving.

- Mike G.

Mike,
What part of Oak CLiff?
I went to school at Mark Twain and Atwell.

[jterrell]

Originally Posted by RW31

Welcome to the board. Its great and most of the fans know what they are talking about...this is a much better board anyway. You will stay and fall in love with it...

To think Vinny doesn't have a chance (which you are implying) is follish. If the offensive line proves to be adequate in pass blocking, then quincy's only advantage becomes mute.

Correction, quincy is a player that has been in the postseason, he hasn't won.

Our reciever didn't drop anywhere near 50% drops, because if they did, they would be out of the NFL. That was bold face lie/assumption.

Quincy has improved in mechanics(he couldn't even take a snap in his rookie year)But he still has horrible ones.

You are deadon with drew henson
Though I think Julius will soon become a premier back, Id rather be bragging about stephen jackson.

[View Full Quote]You area little to optimistic with your last statement. Most team have guys like Reshard Lee. If he gets an oopurtunity, you can kiss our season down the drain if its more than 3 weeks.

Again with that 50% lie...

Our guys all have physical potential...

Our grteatest asset that I expect bill to take advantage of. Good assesment.

Good assesment. You failed to mention the big gap at the right side though...

Our offense will at best be average. We rely on our defense for a reason. The only thing I will ask of our offense this year is a 1000 yard rusher and less than 20 picks and less than 5 lost fumbles.

I think he overstated but lie is too strong. The numbers he uses for completions are accurate but not solely base don drops. They are percentage of passes to the Wr that were completed. There were passes defended, intercepted and drops figured in. All of our WRs did have high numbers of passes dropped tho. Ryan Early does a breakdown every year. I believe you need ESPN Insider to access that info.

[LaTunaNostra]

Originally Posted by jterrell

I think he overstated but lie is too strong. The numbers he uses for completions are accurate but not solely base don drops. They are percentage of passes to the Wr that were completed. There were passes defended, intercepted and drops figured in. All of our WRs did have high numbers of passes dropped tho. Ryan Early does a breakdown every year. I believe you need ESPN Insider to access that info.

AB dropped 10, Joey 6, Terry 5.

http://sports.iwon.com/nfl/stats/lea...esdropped.html

[MichaelWinicki]

Originally Posted by kbduke

True Blues,

Normally, I would do this on Yahoo, but it seems to have been overtaken by fools racists, and wanna be wrestling clones etc... I am not giving it up but intelligent postings seem very frivilous and unappreciated these days.

Dallas Offense
Quarterbacks
[View Full Quote]Quincy Carter is the starter this year and probably the next year as well. Vinny is a competent back up. Of course you are gonna let him compete for the starting position. Why would you let a young impressionable, tempramental quarterback, think his job is safe? Quincy has all the skills to compete and win in this league. He is now a post season winner. Lets face it. Last year he had no running game to speak of, a patch work offensive line that looked like my grandmothers hand sewn blankets, and three starting recievers who dropped the ball 40-50% of the time it hit them in the hands. When he was still at Georgia there were many writers and analysts who compared him to Doug Williams and said he was a future Heisman candidate. If Quincy continues to improve his mechanics, keeps his head up, holds the ball high, studies keys, and defensive schemes, he will continue to start. Drew Henson is another baseball player who realized the reason he played baseball is because he was very good at football. Drew Henson has the ability, he has the arm and he has the accuracy. The questions is "Does he have the mental fortitude and discipline to become a leader? I believe he does, you can sense the pedigree and confidence. But how will he be be after camp and hes been tapped a few times?

Running Backs
Hail to Jerry! Not only did we get Julius Jones as value pick but also picked up a first round selction for next years draft. No question I love his dedication to winning, but leave football to football people. Julius can be our running back for the next eight years. He as quick as Emmit was, faster than Emmit, and can run through the middle. Although we will see how well. Hambricks attempt at replacing Emmitt was alot of talk and sadly nothing more. Now we have an inspired, grateful to have an opportunity to play running back that reminds me of Gayle Sayers when he runs. Julius has a very smooth and pretty stride. Unfortunatley, if he gets injured we could be in trouble. Cason is faster and just as quick, but is too thin in the thighs to handle 16 games 300+ carries. Richie Anderson, "Mr Utility" is getting on in years. Hes been a durable all everything but he isnt a spring chicken anymore either. I do like Rashard Lee. I think he could be a featured back. I just hope he gets the opportunity to show it.


Wide Recievers
If anything Keyshawns locker room leadership should help make this more competitive and get peoples heads in the game. We have sorely missed Michael Irvins intensity and desire since that fateful day in Filthydelphia. He is a proven receiver who will go over the middle and is maybe the best downfield blocking receiver to come out in quite a while. I am prediciting his impact this year to be close to a thousand yards and seven touchdowns. His reception percentage will definitely be better than 50%. That is improvement! Joey Galloway as blessed as he was physically, wasn't the sharpest tack in the box. Not dumb, just not incredibly smart either. Your number one reciever should be able to do more than run a post , a fly pattern and deep in/outs. Tery Glenn was a little better in reception percentages but a little better than 50% means there is alot more room for improvement. With a second year in Bills system and Keyshawn pushing him, I am sure that will improve. Antonio Bryant, who is back in Dallas working out, may have us over a barrel. Being the only other experienced? wide reciever makes him more important than he really should be. He has talent, but unless his attitude improves because Keyshawn was loafing and I had to run all the routes means he just wont make it as a player in this league if he doesnt pull his primma donna head out of his butt and start behaving like a professional. Williams our fourth string receiver is possibly the fastest man alive at 6'4" 220lbs but until he starts producing, he's another broken down porsche in the driveway. Looks good but thats about all.

Tight Ends
The strength of our offense. Cambell, Whitten, and Ryan make this one big talented tight end corp. Whitten should overtake Campbell by midseason just because he has been learning on how to block better and is an incredible receiver. I am looking for alot of double tight end sets this year. I can already picture Whitten on the outside pulling off blocks to be a much needed safety valve for Quincy. All three average 6'5" 265lbs.

Offensive Line
Our offensive line was covered very throughly in another thread so I wont waste much of your reading time. Mostly I believe Dave Volk will make the team and if we can just develop some chemistry on the line. We should be good. Larry Allens temprament and condition with the team is better than what people think it is. I have heard one of his biggest complaints with Bill was being called a horse in the media. He felt Bill should have showed him more respect than what he did in public. Which is why now all you wil hear Bill say is he is fine and doing what he needs to. Al Johnson is going to be our center for the next ten years. When I saw him with Dandy Don in San Antonio, even though when he went up against Larry Allen in blocking drills and Larry would hit him so hard his feet were leaving the ground, (It was that way with all the other guards also) he didn't fall, kep his composure and kept firing back at Larry. Almost saying in his posture and actions "So what! You're big and strong but I'm still here, you aren't putting me on my butt" A center having tenacity, intelligence, and a nasty streak can play on my team anytime.

Next Up......Defense

I thought this was going to be a good read... until I just started into it and found that someone is predicting that Q is going to be the starter this year and next.

Oh well, so much for credibility.

[jterrell]

Originally Posted by LaTunaNostra

AB dropped 10, Joey 6, Terry 5.

http://sports.iwon.com/nfl/stats/lea...esdropped.html

Terry dropped at least 4 in one game so I find the 5 hard to believe but I do remember discussing this before.

Early's WR stats are a bit different and had all 3 in the top 20 in drops by percentage. I dont have insider access now so cant provide a link but someone should have it. Ryan was very good friends with James Lofton and the WR stats started there. Galloway is among the worst over a 5 year stretch in the category of passes caught per attempts.

[LaTunaNostra]

Originally Posted by jterrell

Terry dropped at least 4 in one game so I find the 5 hard to believe but I do remember discussing this before.

Early's WR stats are a bit different and had all 3 in the top 20 in drops by percentage. I dont have insider access now so cant provide a link but someone should have it. Ryan was very good friends with James Lofton and the WR stats started there. Galloway is among the worst over a 5 year stretch in the category of passes caught per attempts.

What game did he drop four in?

[blindzebra]

Originally Posted by LaTunaNostra

What game did he drop four in?

He didn't.

[blindzebra]

Originally Posted by jterrell

Terry dropped at least 4 in one game so I find the 5 hard to believe but I do remember discussing this before.

Early's WR stats are a bit different and had all 3 in the top 20 in drops by percentage. I dont have insider access now so cant provide a link but someone should have it. Ryan was very good friends with James Lofton and the WR stats started there. Galloway is among the worst over a 5 year stretch in the category of passes caught per attempts.

I wonder, passes caught per attempt.

Pass gets knocked down, receiver's fault?

Pass gets INT, receivers fault?

Pass is too low, high, behind, or in front, receiver's fault?

The QB play the past 5 years would have NOTHING to do with that stat?

[LaTunaNostra]

Originally Posted by blindzebra

He didn't.

I need to go back and watch his big dropsy game. The first one vs the Skins.

The one where he somewhat redeemed himself by scoring a TD and that 47 yard run to end it, but of which he later said "I don't know why I had so many drops, I've never had so many drops, I know I can catch the ball, yada yada yada."

He may have had three drops and then there was the drop he kicked into the defenders arms for an interception, which went on Q.

His drop:completion ratio, however, was NOT bad.

But prior to that he had the rep of the best hands in the game, so any drop from Terry Glenn was an amazement to me.

[Rack Bauer]

Originally Posted by LaTunaNostra

What game did he drop four in?

I don't remember him dropping 4 in a game. The most I remember from one game was, I think, 3 vs washington. He just started off horribly that game, but played well after that.


Edit: Ok that was already covered.

[Kangaroo]

But remeber QC got the int because of it so it goes against QC not Terry when it bounce out of his hands hit his leg or something and poped up to the defender

So it became and int for qc even though it hit Glenn square in the hands

That was a bad game all around for the wr