McAlister May Hold Out

[Hostile]

Originally Posted by SALADIN

I'm not sure what Sioux tribe it's from. I just came across it in a search.

Let's hope they don't need too many of those. This is a Parcells coached team. Luck helps sometimes but, as a person who is married...its the little things

Question for you. Who are you going to pull for is some how the Cowboys and the Gents go to the dance?

She likes the Jets, not the Giants.

[SALADIN]

Originally Posted by TruBlueCowboy

Antonio Bryant and our 1st next year for McAllister? :o

I can only dream.

Ty Law and Mike McKenzie had their critics but is it safe to say that we all agree McAllister would be worth a 1st rounder pronto?

Newman and McAllister...... drooooool.......

That's highway robbery. AB has 1st round talent even if he isn't worth that on the market.

The Cowboys would basiclly be giving 2 1st for McAllister.

Let me make this clear. Out of all the CB's in the league Micky A may be the 2nd best (you can't eacape the long arm of the LAW).

A.B. for McAllister staight up, that makes sense. One of the Cowboys 1st for McAllister, that's fair. But if you're thinking about both then put your hands where I can see them, this is a stick up.

Cover corners, and pass rushing DT never get loose my man

[TruBlueCowboy]

Originally Posted by SALADIN

That's highway robbery. AB has 1st round talent even if he isn't worth that on the market.

The Cowboys would basiclly be giving 2 1st for McAllister.

Let me make this clear. Out of all the CB's in the league Micky A may be the 2nd best (you can't eacape the long arm of the LAW).

A.B. for McAllister staight up, that makes sense. One of the Cowboys 1st for McAllister, that's fair. But if you're thinking about both then put your hands where I can see them, this is a stick up.

Cover corners, and pass rushing DT never get loose my man

Shooooot..... AB a 1st rounder? AB for McAllister straight up? What planet are you living on? We're such homers for our team, aren't we? We'll be lucky to grab a 4th or 5th rounder for AB. Who cares how much talent he has when he's a headcase and other teams know we're looking to drop him. And where was all this talent when he kept dropping balls last year?

[Roughneck]

Originally Posted by SALADIN

That's highway robbery. AB has 1st round talent even if he isn't worth that on the market.

The Cowboys would basiclly be giving 2 1st for McAllister.

Let me make this clear. Out of all the CB's in the league Micky A may be the 2nd best (you can't eacape the long arm of the LAW).

A.B. for McAllister staight up, that makes sense. One of the Cowboys 1st for McAllister, that's fair. But if you're thinking about both then put your hands where I can see them, this is a stick up.

Cover corners, and pass rushing DT never get loose my man

To paraphrase Bull Durham, he has Million Dollar talent but a five cent head. If we offered him straight up for McAlister, Ozzie Newsome would have a heart attack from laughing so hard.

[SALADIN]

Originally Posted by Hostile

She likes the Jets, not the Giants.

My mistake hos. I know she's a Jests fan, just got the wrong Berman nickname.

Jay - eeeh - teee - essss - Jets - Jets - Jets!

[TheSkaven]

Originally Posted by SALADIN

That's highway robbery. AB has 1st round talent even if he isn't worth that on the market.

Cornerbacks are more valuable in this league than wide receivers. And Antonio Bryant is not worth a 1st rounder until he proves he can put up superstar numbers. Last year he had a very disappointing season.

McAllister is a proven talent. I think he's better than Law, but he's certainly younger (still only a 5 year veteran).

Normally I fall in line with the owners, by the way, but in this case McAllister is right, he's getting screwed and the Ravens should be smart and pay him. Or trade him to us.

[Marcuz]

Originally Posted by SALADIN

A.B. for McAllister staight up, that makes sense.

The ravens management would have to be smoking the same high quality weed that you seem to be on to pull the trigger on that deal.

[LaTunaNostra]

Originally Posted by SALADIN

My mistake hos. I know she's a Jests fan, just got the wrong Berman nickname.

Jay - eeeh - teee - essss - Jets - Jets - Jets!

The way some Jets fans tell it, Joe Namath sold his soul to the devil to make his "guarantee" good 35 years ago.

I prefer to be optimistic and believe he only let Satan borrow it for fifty years.

That means I have 15 more years to worry about crossing the bridge of a Dallas-NY SB.

Interesting how both teams are wielding the new stadium steamroller, tho. JJ's got a MUCH easier road in that regard.

[trickblue]

Originally Posted by Marcuz

The ravens management would have to be smoking the same high quality weed that you seem to be on to pull the trigger on that deal.

I agree... but if he DOES refuse to sign... does he not walk away free and clear next year?

McCallister is the best CB mentioned as a possible trade... WAY better than McKenzie... and a good deal better than Law...plus he is younger...

I wouldn't package AB and a 1st... but something could be worked out...

Heck... AB may whip into shape there knowing that the felonious Ray Lewis is looking over his shoulder...

[Nors]

Originally Posted by Hostile

Law won't be a Free Agent.

That situation is still fluid. Granted chances are close to nill he lands here in 2004.

[LaTunaNostra]

Originally Posted by Nors

That situation is still fluid. Granted chances are close to nill he lands here in 2004.

So close to nil as to be non-existant.

Pete Hunter, Nors, is going to be given the opportunity to grow into the job.

Since I first saw him he reminded me of Marcus Coleman, as he is th exact same height, just two pounds lighter,and has the same rangy build, fluid hips, and seemingly, overall makeup.

I just did a search and found a DMN piece from last Dec in which Tuna himself compared him to Coleman. This kid is gonna be, imho, a personal project of Bill Parcells.

________________Hunter's play worth a nickel
After a poor start, he's regained his role in the Cowboys' defense


12:19 AM CST on Saturday, December 27, 2003

By JEAN-JACQUES TAYLOR / The Dallas Morning News


IRVING – Contrary to popular belief, coach Bill Parcells is a patient man. Cornerback Pete Hunter is proof of that.

Banished to the bench in October after a string of poor performances as the Cowboys' nickel cornerback – he covered the slot receiver in schemes that used five or six defensive backs – Hunter received a second chance.

He's made the most of it.

Hunter has played well in three games since he replaced cornerback Derek Ross, who was released on Dec. 2, and regained his role in the Cowboys' defense.

He has six tackles, a pass deflection, an interception and a fumble recovery.

More important, opposing offenses have converted just 11 of 43 (25.5 percent) third-down plays in their last three games.

"With Pete, it's been a process, quite frankly," Parcells said. "[Defensive coordinator] Mike Zimmer and I have talked about this player as much as any player we have. I've seen ability here, but not anywhere near consistent early in the season.

"In fact, it was very erratic. I kept telling Zimmer I had a player just like this once before and not to get impatient because Mike was getting a little impatient with him."

That player was veteran Houston cornerback Marcus Coleman, who played for Parcells with the Jets. "It took us three years to get this guy going," Parcells said of Coleman. "Once we got him going, it was worth it. You know, Pete made some good plays against Washington and all of a sudden it looks like he's a different guy."

Two weeks ago, in the Cowboys' 27-0 win over Washington, Hunter played his best game, intercepting a pass and recovering a fumble on punt coverage.

"I saw it was an opportunity when Derek got released," Hunter said recently. "I was in the doghouse a little bit earlier this season, so I want to make the most of this chance."

Parcells didn't want to give up on Hunter. Neither did scouting director Larry Lacewell.


Michael Mulvey / DMN
Pete Hunter (47) tackles the Jets' Wayne Chrebet on fourth down ensuring the Cowboys win on Sept. 28.

After all, Hunter has the best combination of size and speed among the cornerbacks. But he played his college ball at tiny Virginia Union, so there has been a considerable transition period because of the better caliber of competition he was playing against.

Parcells and Lacewell also wanted to make sure Hunter had enough opportunities on the field to prove he couldn't play before they severed ties with him.

"He's done a good job," Parcells said. "He's starting to pick it up."

Hunter said he's not surprised he's playing well because he's healthy.

After a fine training camp, Hunter broke his forearm in the first preseason game, but returned for the opener against Atlanta.

It was too soon.

"I had done some conditioning, but I hadn't had any contact until the first game," Hunter said. "When I went to bump the receiver at the line of scrimmage, I felt a sharp pain in my forearm.

"The pain made me tentative. I wasn't bumping the receivers, so they were getting into their routes easier and making plays."

Parcells takes a bottom-line approach to all players. Injuries, Parcells often says, are not an excuse for poor performance.

So after Hunter allowed touchdown passes of 20 yards to Amani Toomer of the Giants in Week 2 and 24 yards to Arizona's Bryan Gilmore in Week 5, Zimmer began losing patience. When Hunter allowed a 27-yard, third-down completion to Freddie Mitchell the following week against Philadelphia and was penalized twice for holding, the second-year cornerback found himself on the bench in the fourth quarter.

And that's where he stayed, except for special teams, until Ross was released.

http://www.cowboysplus.com/topstory/...ede.ad6f1.html
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[LaTunaNostra]

PS, am I wrong about this or does Houston also slide Coleman over to free safety?

Didn't I see somewhere here that Pete has played FS? (I may have dreamt that)

Do you see the word "hybird" emerging here, Nors?

We don't need 31 year old Ty, his contract demands, or his agents.

We can coach up here as well as Belichick can.

[junk]

Originally Posted by LaTunaNostra

PS, am I wrong about this or does Houston also slide Coleman over to free safety?

Didn't I see somewhere here that Pete has played FS? (I may have dreamt that)

Coleman is moving to FS this year in Houston I believe. Dunta Robinson is taking his place.

Mentioning Pete as a FS is like a mini-QC debate. Two divided camps on this issue too. Some want to move him to FS right now, others feel he has some real upside at corner. He did play some safety in college.

My theory is that free safeties are easier to find than CBs, so let him fail at corner back and then move him to safety if he stinks. The only reason Dallas doesn't have a true free safety is because Woodson is a respected vet (who still has some skills) that the Cowboys aren't ready to send out the door and a rare talent in Williams came along.

My theory is that once Woodson retires, a free safety will be brought in off the street or someone will get move there. FS is not a hard position to fill in the NFL.

[LaTunaNostra]

Originally Posted by junk

Coleman is moving to FS this year in Houston I believe. Dunta Robinson is taking his place.

Interesting, Junk. I did not know Marcus is moving over full time.

Mentioning Pete as a FS is like a mini-QC debate. Two divided camps on this issue too. Some want to move him to FS right now, others feel he has some real upside at corner. He did play some safety in college.

My theory is that free safeties are easier to find than CBs, so let him fail at corner back and then move him to safety if he stinks. The only reason Dallas doesn't have a true free safety is because Woodson is a respected vet (who still has some skills) that the Cowboys aren't ready to send out the door and a rare talent in Williams came along.

My theory is that once Woodson retires, a free safety will be brought in off the street or someone will get move there. FS is not a hard position to fill in the NFL.

I hear ya on the FS vs CB dilemma. Butq quality free safties, even competent ones, aren't always that easy to find. Or train. In NY, we have had exactly 14 of them in a revolving door scenario over the past five years. 14, and they all stink. Now that might be notorious bad luck, or FO and CS incompetence, but a true FS in the classic sense, on with pass coverage skills who has the ability to read the QB, and make the right decision merely by reading a QB's eyes, well I think that guy is rarer than we think. At his best, he is a very instinctual, intelligent player. The hybrid SS/FS is becoming common place, but the true FS, I just don't see many of quality.

I am on the Hunter bandwagon, off what I saw late last season. Also like the little I have gleaned of him in the press. The Gonzalez article in the Dallas Observer and the re-airing of Hard Knocks, which featured PH, fueled it a little too. I've got high hopes for him, and look forward to watching Tuna torture him.

[MichaelWinicki]

Originally Posted by LaTunaNostra

Do you see the word "hybird" emerging here, Nors?

Geez why did you have to use the "H" word B.?

Nors will be all excited for the rest of the day.




Nothing worse than an "excited" Nors I've been told.