Yesterday smelled like 2003 - Dallas Cowboys Forum

bbgun · 11-21-2005

A sputtering offense complimented by a technically effecient (but not aggressive or dominant) defense, all of which came crashing down on T-Giving. Hopefully, the past isn't prelude.

Anyone read Al Johnson's unbelievably defeatist quotes about Detroit's "great, big, and fast" defensive line?

Q: "Why did you struggle today Al?"
A: "They were big and mean! They got great jumps!"

What an excuse-making turd. Can you imagine Stepnoski or Big E complimenting the Niners or Eagles like that?

Asklesko · 11-21-2005

Yeah, this whole thing smells of 2003.

sad_otter · 11-21-2005

Well then, here's to the playoffs!

kartr · 11-22-2005

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Originally Posted by bbgun

A sputtering offense complimented by a technically effecient (but not aggressive or dominant) defense, all of which came crashing down on T-Giving. Hopefully, the past isn't prelude.

Anyone read Al Johnson's unbelievably defeatist quotes about Detroit's "great, big, and fast" defensive line?

Q: "Why did you struggle today Al?"
A: "They were big and mean! They got great jumps!"

What an excuse-making turd. Can you imagine Stepnoski or Big E complimenting the Niners or Eagles like that?

I think not. Our 2003 team crushed the Lions on their own field 38-7, beat the Giants with Kerry Collins on their own field 35-32, beat the Eagles at home convincingly and the Panthers at home convincingly. Except for the Chargers, the only teams we've beaten convincingly are below .500. This team struggles to manage games so much that it is hard for anyone to tell how good we are. We really don't have an identity.

**trickblue** · 11-22-2005

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Originally Posted by kartr

the only teams we've beaten convincingly are below .500.

true... but technically the iggles are under .500 BECAUSE of us...

Jarv · 11-22-2005

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Originally Posted by bbgun

A sputtering offense complimented by a technically effecient (but not aggressive or dominant) defense, all of which came crashing down on T-Giving. Hopefully, the past isn't prelude.

Anyone read Al Johnson's unbelievably defeatist quotes about Detroit's "great, big, and fast" defensive line?

Q: "Why did you struggle today Al?"
A: "They were big and mean! They got great jumps!"

What an excuse-making turd. Can you imagine Stepnoski or Big E complimenting the Niners or Eagles like that?

They did get a bunch of great jumps...and were offsides a heck of a lot...Lokkit 17 penalties...Yeah, that had good jumps...lol

Next_years_Champs · 11-22-2005

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Originally Posted by kartr

I think not. Our 2003 team crushed the Lions on their own field 38-7, beat the Giants with Kerry Collins on their own field 35-32, beat the Eagles at home convincingly and the Panthers at home convincingly. Except for the Chargers, the only teams we've beaten convincingly are below .500. This team struggles to manage games so much that it is hard for anyone to tell how good we are. We really don't have an identity.

10/12 W 23-21 Philadelphia
11/23 W 24-20 Carolina

Yeah, convincingly we beat Philadelphia with a defensive sack and fumble at the end of the game.

InmanRoshi · 11-22-2005

The offensive tackles may have struggled in pass protection, but the middle of the OL dominated and ran the ball at will against the Lions interior defense. The only time I saw Shaun Rogers name mentioned was when he was tapping his helmet to get his 385 lbs. obese arse off the field for a breather ... which was pretty much every other play. I may have regrets about not drafting him, but I have no regrets about not signing him to a huge contract.

Everlastingxxx · 11-22-2005

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Originally Posted by bbgun

A sputtering offense complimented by a technically effecient (but not aggressive or dominant) defense, all of which came crashing down on T-Giving. Hopefully, the past isn't prelude.

Anyone read Al Johnson's unbelievably defeatist quotes about Detroit's "great, big, and fast" defensive line?

Q: "Why did you struggle today Al?"
A: "They were big and mean! They got great jumps!"

What an excuse-making turd. Can you imagine Stepnoski or Big E complimenting the Niners or Eagles like that?

This team is nothing like the 2003 team in so many ways it’s frustrating to even explain. This thread smells like rotten eggs.

joseephuss · 11-22-2005

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Originally Posted by Everlastingxxx

This team is nothing like the 2003 team in so many ways it’s frustrating to even explain. This thread smells like rotten eggs.

No doubt.

I liked the effort of the 2003 defense. There were some obvious weaknesses with that unit that had to wait until the off season to be fixed. We all saw what happened when the weaknesses weren't addressed in the off season and in fact those positions became worse.

The weakness of today's defense is youth and inexperience. Every week, the unit seems to gel a little more. I like the potential for the defense to improve the rest of the season and definitly the next few seasons without needing a major overhaul.

TruBlueCowboy · 11-22-2005

What do 2003 mean?

fortdick · 11-22-2005

The schedules are so different it is just wrong to compare them!

Doomsday101 · 11-22-2005

Naw 2003 had a different smell. LOL

Big Country · 11-22-2005

When you have a rookie RT and your starting LT goes down in mid season, declining offensive numbers, especially passing numbers will suffer automatically. We'll have good games and bad games...

kartr · 11-22-2005

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Originally Posted by Next_years_Champs

10/12 W 23-21 Philadelphia
11/23 W 24-20 Carolina

Yeah, convincingly we beat Philadelphia with a defensive sack and fumble at the end of the game.

Would you turn up your nose at either of those scores if we beat the Broncos, Chiefs or Panthers by any of those amounts? Considering that both the Eagles and Panthers had excellent seasons that year, I would think not.

But the main point was that our 3rd year qb outplayed more experienced qb's in big games, and with no running game. We had a substantial the edge in scoring, passing yardage, and time of possession. Our qb brought us from behind against two quality opponents, with no running game and in beating Carolina, we tied for the best record in the NFC. You also seem to forget that when our D got the sack and fumble, our offense had got the lead back for us and it was a defensive breakdown that led to Buckhalter's touchdown run in the first place.