Buy or Sell? BUYER BEWARE ON BUSH?

[joseephuss]

Emmitt was not small, he was short. There is a difference. Dorsett was small. Both were effective, both were different and both were special. That is what made them succesful.

Bush is a special college back. The difficult part is projecting him as a special pro back. Looks like he could be or in the least be an effective back. Just like anyone drafted, it is a bit of a crap shoot. There are no guarantees. I have always beleived it is easier to project a guy to end up a bust than it is to project them to end up being a great player. That is why articles like this are written. Who knows? I would take a chance on Bush.

[ABQCOWBOY]

Originally Posted by joseephuss

Emmitt was not small, he was short. There is a difference. Dorsett was small. Both were effective, both were different and both were special. That is what made them succesful.

Bush is a special college back. The difficult part is projecting him as a special pro back. Looks like he could be or in the least be an effective back. Just like anyone drafted, it is a bit of a crap shoot. There are no guarantees. I have always beleived it is easier to project a guy to end up a bust than it is to project them to end up being a great player. That is why articles like this are written. Who knows? I would take a chance on Bush.

But would you do it if you were Houston, assuming you could not dramatically improve the OL?

[joseephuss]

Originally Posted by ABQCOWBOY

But would you do it if you were Houston, assuming you could not dramatically improve the OL?

Based on those criteria, maybe. They then can wait to fix the o-line the following year.

I just think they can do both this off season. They don't have to turn it all around and produce the best o-line in the game. They need to replace at least 1 guy and more than likely 2 along the line. They actually run block nicely. It is the pass blocking that is suffering badly. Of course I have been waiting years for Dallas to fix its O-line.

I think Houston is in a good position. They can easily trade Bush or the pick to gain even more. This could work out well for them. I just don't think it will. I am not impressed with Casserly or Capers. They will find a way to screw things up.

[Maikeru-sama]

Originally Posted by Cbz40

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BUYER BEWARE ON BUSH?



Of course, not everyone is convinced that a running back with an expected NFL shelf life of less than 10 seasons is worth a contract in excess of $50 million. As one league insider explained to us on Thursday, folks who are quick to compare USC running back/receiver/kick returner Reggie Bush to Gale Sayers should keep in mind the full range of Sayers' pro career.



The Kansas Comet burst onto the NFL scene in 1965, and he excelled for the Bears through the 1969 seasons. Injuries limited him dramatically in 1970 and 1971, and he retired before the 1972 campaign.



[View Full Quote]And, sure, injuries can happen to any player. But could it be that Sayers' duties as a running back and a receiver and a kick returner and a punt returner made him more vulnerable to getting snapped, crackled, and popped? And won't Bush -- if used to maximum capacity and ability -- be in precisely the same position?



There is, after all, a huge difference between the Pac-10 and the NFL. Some of Bush's best work in 2005 came against collections of football players who wouldn't last a morning in an NFL minicamp. When Reggie starts to get banged around by the big boys, will he still be as effective?



Let's also not forget the fact that Sayers, while incredibly effective in five NFL seasons, didn't exactly lift his team to lofty heights. Indeed, Sayers and his Bears didn't play in a single postseason game.



We're not saying that Bush isn't among the cream of the current crop of players poised to enter the NFL in April. But whether he's the second coming of Gale Sayers is an open question. And even if he is, perhaps a team looking to build toward long-term success might be best served with a player with a lower risk of injury and a better chance at being a cornerstone of the organization for more than a decade.

Right on. At least somebody is actually talking about the downside that Reggie Bush could have. This guy could be Brian Westbrook or he could be Marshall Faulk.

If I am a franchise building from the ground up, I take care of my Quarterback position first and foremost.

If Adrian Peterson was coming out, I would take him over Reggie Bush any day of the week, and im not just saying that because he is from the Lone Star State .

I cant wait to Bush go up against them boys from Texas...

- Mike G.

[ABQCOWBOY]

Originally Posted by joseephuss

Based on those criteria, maybe. They then can wait to fix the o-line the following year.

I just think they can do both this off season. They don't have to turn it all around and produce the best o-line in the game. They need to replace at least 1 guy and more than likely 2 along the line. They actually run block nicely. It is the pass blocking that is suffering badly. Of course I have been waiting years for Dallas to fix its O-line.

I think Houston is in a good position. They can easily trade Bush or the pick to gain even more. This could work out well for them. I just don't think it will. I am not impressed with Casserly or Capers. They will find a way to screw things up.

I believe that they need two tackles and a Guard. I like Wiegert OK and I like McKinney but the rest don't really impress me to much. Good tackles are nto cheap and there not usually easy to find. I think they need to draft a LT and possibly sign a RT in FA. I think they need to do the same for a guard.

I also think the move with Reeves is interesting. I'm not certain that Casserly or Don Capers will be calling all the shots in Houston for the upcoming draft. If you were going to bring a guy in who was going to manage your draft, right now would be a good time to do it. Would give him an opportunity to see the current roster for the last three games. See who still wants to play and who's mailing it in. See the teams weakness' up close and be ready to start breaking down film on College prospects.

Should be interesting.

[Hiero]

yep i think he will be really good, they just cannot overuse him like they have to so many young rb's. no kr/pr.

[Big Country]

Originally Posted by Ashwynn

I think it Houston drafts him and does not upgrade the Oline, he will be a marginal talent, showing some falshes, but nott able to maintain it on any regularity. Houston needs to trade down 1 or 2 spots and get D'Brickashaw. Or go after Oline in FA heavy. Then Bush would be a nice addition. But till they have a line, they have nothing in Houston.

otherwise, Bush will be the number 1 pick and a superstar in the league.

If I were R Bush and the Taxscums drafted me I'd hold out until they traded me... I'd have to take up pro badminton or something until my number was called elsewhere... I see him playing in SF next year.

[joseephuss]

Originally Posted by ABQCOWBOY

I believe that they need two tackles and a Guard. I like Wiegert OK and I like McKinney but the rest don't really impress me to much. Good tackles are nto cheap and there not usually easy to find. I think they need to draft a LT and possibly sign a RT in FA. I think they need to do the same for a guard.

I also think the move with Reeves is interesting. I'm not certain that Casserly or Don Capers will be calling all the shots in Houston for the upcoming draft. If you were going to bring a guy in who was going to manage your draft, right now would be a good time to do it. Would give him an opportunity to see the current roster for the last three games. See who still wants to play and who's mailing it in. See the teams weakness' up close and be ready to start breaking down film on College prospects.

Should be interesting.

Re-tooling their line will take at least two off seasons to do anyway. That is whether they take Bush or not.

[conner01]

i think bush's success will depend on how he is used. if you run him 25 times,kr,pr,theni think he will have a tough time staying healthy. if you use him like the eagles use westbrook, as a pass option out in space he will be unstopable.if i had him, contract aside, i would use him on 12-15 runs, 5-6 passes out of the backfield or lined up outside, and kr, and pr in return siruations. i would'nt pound him up the middle 25-30 times a game and wear him downm

[ABQCOWBOY]

Originally Posted by joseephuss

Re-tooling their line will take at least two off seasons to do anyway. That is whether they take Bush or not.

I don't think so. I think that if they took a guy like Ferguson this year, they could probably sign a RT and a Guard. RT is a lot easier to sign then LT. They could draft a little depth in the OL, bring it along and still be pretty well set with some Vets. If they Trade down, they could probably take a corner stone LT, a quality Guard, a nice young TE like maybe Fasano, probably pick up a nice DB or two as well. They could fix alot of what ailes them through a trade down IMO. Dominic Davis is not `a bad back. He will have another thousand yard season this year. That will be his third in three years. This guy is not bad. I just see there issues as solvable if they can make a good trade down. This team could compete in two years IMO. If you don't invest in the OL now, I think your in a situation where you'll need to draft a franchise QB again. How expensive will that be?

[joseephuss]

Originally Posted by conner01

i think bush's success will depend on how he is used. if you run him 25 times,kr,pr,theni think he will have a tough time staying healthy. if you use him like the eagles use westbrook, as a pass option out in space he will be unstopable.if i had him, contract aside, i would use him on 12-15 runs, 5-6 passes out of the backfield or lined up outside, and kr, and pr in return siruations. i would'nt pound him up the middle 25-30 times a game and wear him downm

Very few guys actually rush the ball 25 to 30 times a game. That is 400 to 480 carries a season. Emmitt toted the rock quite a bit and the most carries he ever had had in a single season was 377 or 23.6 times a game. Bush probably could and should be used to get the ball about 25 times a game. Like you said, 12-15 runs, 5-6 receptions and return duties.

[jackrussell]

The only way I would ever say no to Reggie Bush is if he says yes to the Postons or Rosenhaus.

[Cbz40]

Saying "No" to a talent like Bush would be very difficult to do. I feel he is the type of RB that you see once a decade.

[Chuck 54]

Just another writer trying to make a splash by going against conventional and universal wisdom

[ABQCOWBOY]

Originally Posted by Cbz40

Saying "No" to a talent like Bush would be very difficult to do. I feel he is the type of RB that you see once a decade.

If this were the NFL of the 80s, I would probably agree with you. In this day and age, I don't believe that the RB position is as influencial as it once was. The running game is important, no question, but it doesn't dominate the game the way it once did. JMO.