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Old 08-02-2004   #31
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I'd share this picture with you guys, but I'm selfish. She isn't kidding about how big the ball is.
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Don't you mean RAT BASTID...
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Old 08-02-2004   #33
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The play action one was one I thought no one would catch. I wasn't going to say a thing.
I saw it in a movie once.

I remember Steve DeBerg doing it better than anyone I have ever seen. He would fake out the camera man with his play action passes.
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I saw it in a movie once.

I remember Steve DeBerg doing it better than anyone I have ever seen. He would fake out the camera man with his play action passes.
DeBerg was the best I have ever seen at play action. Not joking one bit. It was like magic with him.
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I knew that was coming.
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Don't you mean RAT BASTID...
That one shocked me.
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That one shocked me.
It shouldn't have
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DeBerg was the best I have ever seen at play action. Not joking one bit. It was like magic with him.
Deberg was a master at it... Esiason was very good at it as well...
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Deberg was a master at it... Esiason was very good at it as well...
Good call. Favre is pretty good as well. Warner not bad.

Still say DeBerg was the best. The way he could put that ball on his hip and fake a handoff was amazing. The camera would be following the runner who was hitting the line meanwhile DeBerg had a WR running free and he would let if fly. Watching the cameras try and find the ball in flight was awesome.
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Vinnie spins the ball (he is very good at this)
That's what backup QB's are suppose to do. That have to do something on the sidelines
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Good call. Favre is pretty good as well. Warner not bad.

Still say DeBerg was the best. The way he could put that ball on his hip and fake a handoff was amazing. The camera would be following the runner who was hitting the line meanwhile DeBerg had a WR running free and he would let if fly. Watching the cameras try and find the ball in flight was awesome.


Notice the ball position. Tight to his body. Maybe a little low for some people, but damn effective for some awesome play action. He was a true magician.
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Why someone would think and preach that a still picture tells you nothing is beyond me.
If you referring to what I said about that minicamp picture of Carter and Testaverde, then you're grossly misrepresenting what I said. I didn't say "you can't tell anything from a still picture." I said you couldn't tell what you thought you could tell from THAT still picture. In that instance, both quarterbacks were going through a series of motions. Because they didn't look exactly the same in the photo, you assumed that one of them was doing it wrong, when they simply could have been unsynchronized. In this instance, showing the quarterbacks' ball position as they drop back, it doesn't matter if they're synchronized, because we know how the ball should be held at every point in time during the dropback.
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...I know all this about the ball has some importance, but I can't help but remember Bradshaw talking about this one time and it was hilarious. He did everything you aren't supposed to do with the ball before he threw it, including patting it. He said the coaches used to say "don't do this, don't do that and don't do the other". Well finally he said "heck, I was thinking so much about holding the ball, I forgot what else I was supposed to be doing, so I just went out and played." It all ended up pretty good for him, I guess.

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Good call. Favre is pretty good as well. Warner not bad.

Still say DeBerg was the best. The way he could put that ball on his hip and fake a handoff was amazing. The camera would be following the runner who was hitting the line meanwhile DeBerg had a WR running free and he would let if fly. Watching the cameras try and find the ball in flight was awesome.
I have been pretty impressed with Manning's play action.
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I have been pretty impressed with Manning's play action.
I have too. He does a pretty good job hiding the ball.
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