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01-27-2006
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#16
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Originally Posted by Cowboy_love_4ever
I would be shocked to see Houston do anything other than a sexy move.
That is the right thing to do, but they need something sexy that will keep the spotlight on them (Bush) or the other 2 popular QB's will help that to happen.
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If they take Bush or Young to sell tickets they will only be hurting their team. I'm not saying your not right, but it is in their best intrest to trade down. Carr, Davis, and Johnson are good players, but they need help on both Oline and defense.
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01-27-2006
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#17
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Originally Posted by Avery
So, what do all the numbers in the righthand column represent? I don't understand how their grades are weighed exactly.
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Its an excel spreadsheet that does not cut and paste well. I hide all my adjustments + and - Final # to far right is my adjusted ranking.
First pass - have top 350 right now trying to slot in all the small school guys, sleepers and clean up the players from the wanna be's.
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01-27-2006
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#18
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Originally Posted by Hostile
It's interesting that 2 weeks ago you were saying he is nowhere near a top 5 talent. Here you have him at 6th which is near top 5 talent. On top of that you were calling him the potential big bust.
Grind them gears.
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I said he will not be drafted top 5 and he will not. I'll be dropping him some but for now he is what he is. THREE months to go hombre.
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01-27-2006
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#19
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Originally Posted by Z-Man
24?? I thought you didn't like Kiwi?

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Kiwi is not done being Kiwi - from a lock top 10 he's near out of the 1st round. Lets see how he handles his Senior Bowl bust before we drop him more.
Waiting on Shoulder injury update. The bruised ego should be ok with some hiding from Big Tackles. 
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01-27-2006
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#20
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Originally Posted by Nors
Kiwi is not done being Kiwi - from a lock top 10 he's near out of the 1st round. Lets see how he handles his Senior Bowl bust before we drop him more.
Waiting on Shoulder injury update. The bruised ego should be ok with some hiding from Big Tackles. 
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If you want to see something humorous, search the draft zone archives for some of Nors' previous thoughts on Kiwi, especially last year when it looked like he was coming out.
Did he grow into that 3-4 DE like you thought???
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01-27-2006
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#21
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Right Kind of Guy
Years Donated 2004, 2005, 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012
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Originally Posted by Nors
I said he will not be drafted top 5 and he will not. I'll be dropping him some but for now he is what he is. THREE months to go hombre.
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91 days, 15 hours, 8 mins to be exact.

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01-27-2006
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#22
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Originally Posted by Hostile
91 days, 15 hours, 8 mins to be exact.

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can't happen fast enough. better than Christmas day.....
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01-27-2006
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#23
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Originally Posted by StanleySpadowski
If you want to see something humorous, search the draft zone archives for some of Nors' previous thoughts on Kiwi, especially last year when it looked like he was coming out.
Did he grow into that 3-4 DE like you thought???
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Please post the actual links. Don't make it up post it SS. You won't be able to..... I've said all along Kiwi was not strong enough to come out last draft and said all along he was too small to be a 3-4 DE. His only potential in NFL is as a 4-3 DE. Probably situational pass rusher which is a role he could grow into over time.
http://dallascowboyszone.com/forums/...highlight=kiwi
http://dallascowboyszone.com/forums/...highlight=kiwi
Nors in thread on 1-6-2005 said!
"Kiwi is a 4-3 DE prospect. Won't fit in 3-4. Pollack is a 4-3, 3-4 fit. Hybrid. Will be telling to see how we draft D this year...........and FA."
Read my actual posts buddy in the thread - Its pretty clear where I stood/stand on Kiwi.....
Stop making it up as you go - lets talk football? eh?
Last edited by Nors : 01-27-2006 at 07:36 PM.
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01-27-2006
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#24
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Originally Posted by Nors
Please post the actual links. Don't make it up post it SS. You won't be able to..... I've said all along Kiwi was not strong enough to come out last draft and said all along he was too small to be a 3-4 DE. His only potential in NFL is as a 4-3 DE. Probably situational pass rusher which is a role he could grow into over time.
http://dallascowboyszone.com/forums/...highlight=kiwi
http://dallascowboyszone.com/forums/...highlight=kiwi
Nors in thread on 1-6-2005 said!
"Kiwi is a 4-3 DE prospect. Won't fit in 3-4. Pollack is a 4-3, 3-4 fit. Hybrid. Will be telling to see how we draft D this year...........and FA."
[View Full Quote]Read my actual posts buddy in the thread - Its pretty clear where I stood/stand on Kiwi.....
Stop making it up as you go - lets talk football? eh?
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Guess who said "The BC DE at 6-8 can be a 3-4 DE".
Three guesses and the first two don't count.
You wanna talk making things up as you go or do you want to admit that you talk out of both sides of you mouth.
I don't expect an answer but then again I'm still waiting for William Green to become a "HOF player".
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01-27-2006
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#25
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Originally Posted by StanleySpadowski
Guess who said "The BC DE at 6-8 can be a 3-4 DE".
Three guesses and the first two don't count.
You wanna talk making things up as you go or do you want to admit that you talk out of both sides of you mouth.
I don't expect an answer but then again I'm still waiting for William Green to become a "HOF player".
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I brought the factual posts and links. He's only 6-5 and I've NEVER advocated Kiwi as a 3-4 DE. As predicted you bring nothing factual to table. Just making it up....
Green has some issues - same player as Larry Johnson who i WAS LONG ON TOO  - right place right time. KC or Cleveland ????? - LOL NOBODY could run behind those dreadfull Brown lines OF YEARS PAST.
You have to attempt off topic crap cuz you slung BS and I called you on it.
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01-28-2006
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#26
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I've got moxie
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Originally Posted by Nors
You have to attempt off topic crap cuz you slung BS and I called you on it.
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Pot meet kettle.
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01-28-2006
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#27
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Shrinkage
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Let's stay focused guys...... 
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01-28-2006
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#28
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Originally Posted by Cowboy_love_4ever
Let's stay focused guys...... 
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SS made a baseless accusation. I referenced and called him out. He has no retort. Its over.
I'll be updating top 120 for Senior Bowl week.
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01-28-2006
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#29
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Originally Posted by Cowboy_love_4ever
I can't believe Gilles is that high after his performance. I used to like him, but now I'm on the fence.
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I stand by my high evaluation on Gilles!!!!!!! 
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01-29-2006
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#30
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Senior Member
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Originally Posted by Nors
I brought the factual posts and links. He's only 6-5 and I've NEVER advocated Kiwi as a 3-4 DE. As predicted you bring nothing factual to table. Just making it up....
Green has some issues - same player as Larry Johnson who i WAS LONG ON TOO  - right place right time. KC or Cleveland ????? - LOL NOBODY could run behind those dreadfull Brown lines OF YEARS PAST.
You have to attempt off topic crap cuz you slung BS and I called you on it.
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dallascowboyszone.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12786&highlight=kiwi
Yep, you never said it and I have no facts.
Care to now or do you enjoy being made the fool?
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