Future Free Agent Moves??-- Offensive Line - Dallas Cowboys Forum

silverbear · 03-24-2006

Even with the addition of Fabini and Kosier, even with the likelihood of bringing in a high draft pick this year, and even with the probable healthy return of Flozell Adams and Marco Rivera, I'm still uneasy about the line situation... I'd like to see one more top free agent brought in, and I believe the Boys have the cap room to get that done... failing that, I'd like to see a solid backup brought in... to that end, I'll propose a few players who fit both job descriptions...

Stephen Neal, OG, Pats... the best guard left on the board, a former wrestling champion who understands all about leverage... he could plug in to Larry Allen's old slot at LG, leaving Kosier free to back up at every position except center... he's 6-4, 306 pounds, will be 30 when the regular season starts... couldn't find a 40 time for him...

Damion McIntosh, OT, Dolphins... the 2nd best tackle left on the board, behind Jon Runyan, who's just too old for my taste... if the Boys added him, their top 3 tackles would be Flozell Adams, Jason Fabini and McIntosh, with Rob Petitti likely factoring into the equation... that would be a solid and deep group of tackles... McIntosh is 6-4, 325 pounds, will be 29 on opening day, runs the 40 in 5.2 seconds...

Kendyl Jacox, C/OG, Saints... the backup to LeCharles Bentley, he's not too shabby in his own right... he could certainly compete for the starting job at center in Dallas... he's 6-2, 325 pounds, will be 31 years old when the regular season rolls around, and runs the 40 in 5.3 seconds...

The Boys might also look at OT Matt Stinchcomb (Bucs) or OT Rex Tucker (Rams), but I'm not sure either player represents an upgrade...

For potential backups (who should be somewhat cheaper), we have:

Grey Ruegamer, C/OG, Packers... 6-4, 306 pounds... will be 30 at the start of the regular season... has started 16 of 76 games... runs a 5.25 second 40...

Jonathan Goodwin, C/OG, Panthers... 6-3, 316 pounds... will be 27 on opening day... has started 13 of 29 games... 5.1 second 40, which is terrific speed for an interior lineman... the Skins had him in for a visit this past Tuesday, but chose instead to sign Tyson Walter and Mike Pucillo (why, God only knows, though I suspect Goodwin's contract demands took them out of the picture...

At tackle, the Boys might also take a look at Chad Slaughter, who's simply huge (6-8, 340 pounds)... he runs a 5.35 second 40, not bad for a guy that size... has only started one game in his career, so you know he won't be looking for starter's money...

Bottom line, there are still a number of NICE offensive linemen out there, and I think the Boys ought to look at signing one more... they have to cap room to do so... then, they should still draft an offensive lineman on the first day of the draft... it's time, IMO, to radically overhaul the offensive line...

EastDallasCowboy · 03-24-2006

I'm 6' 300lbs. And played OL in high school.

If the Cowboys will give me a lfietime supply of Miller Lite I'll keep my weight up and come play for the minimum. I'm sure Jerry can swing it with the Miller folks.

Clove · 03-24-2006

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Originally Posted by silverbear

Even with the addition of Fabini and Kosier, even with the likelihood of bringing in a high draft pick this year, and even with the probable healthy return of Flozell Adams and Marco Rivera, I'm still uneasy about the line situation... I'd like to see one more top free agent brought in, and I believe the Boys have the cap room to get that done... failing that, I'd like to see a solid backup brought in... to that end, I'll propose a few players who fit both job descriptions...

Stephen Neal, OG, Pats... the best guard left on the board, a former wrestling champion who understands all about leverage... he could plug in to Larry Allen's old slot at LG, leaving Kosier free to back up at every position except center... he's 6-4, 306 pounds, will be 30 when the regular season starts... couldn't find a 40 time for him...

[View Full Quote]Damion McIntosh, OT, Dolphins... the 2nd best tackle left on the board, behind Jon Runyan, who's just too old for my taste... if the Boys added him, their top 3 tackles would be Flozell Adams, Jason Fabini and McIntosh, with Rob Petitti likely factoring into the equation... that would be a solid and deep group of tackles... McIntosh is 6-4, 325 pounds, will be 29 on opening day, runs the 40 in 5.2 seconds...

Kendyl Jacox, C/OG, Saints... the backup to LeCharles Bentley, he's not too shabby in his own right... he could certainly compete for the starting job at center in Dallas... he's 6-2, 325 pounds, will be 31 years old when the regular season rolls around, and runs the 40 in 5.3 seconds...

The Boys might also look at OT Matt Stinchcomb (Bucs) or OT Rex Tucker (Rams), but I'm not sure either player represents an upgrade...

For potential backups (who should be somewhat cheaper), we have:

Grey Ruegamer, C/OG, Packers... 6-4, 306 pounds... will be 30 at the start of the regular season... has started 16 of 76 games... runs a 5.25 second 40...

Jonathan Goodwin, C/OG, Panthers... 6-3, 316 pounds... will be 27 on opening day... has started 13 of 29 games... 5.1 second 40, which is terrific speed for an interior lineman... the Skins had him in for a visit this past Tuesday, but chose instead to sign Tyson Walter and Mike Pucillo (why, God only knows, though I suspect Goodwin's contract demands took them out of the picture...

At tackle, the Boys might also take a look at Chad Slaughter, who's simply huge (6-8, 340 pounds)... he runs a 5.35 second 40, not bad for a guy that size... has only started one game in his career, so you know he won't be looking for starter's money...

Bottom line, there are still a number of NICE offensive linemen out there, and I think the Boys ought to look at signing one more... they have to cap room to do so... then, they should still draft an offensive lineman on the first day of the draft... it's time, IMO, to radically overhaul the offensive line...

Where are you finding all of these 40 times?

silverbear · 03-24-2006

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Originally Posted by Cowboy_love_4ever

Where are you finding all of these 40 times?

Got Mel Kiper's annual book, and Ourlads', going back to 1990... I stopped buying either in 2004, once I realized most of that info could be found online... so, I just find out what year the player joined the league, and look up his profile in both books...

SkinsandTerps · 03-24-2006

Now this is the post, I should have looked at initially.

As I stated in the other post. The OL seems to still be questionable.

We all know that it generally takes some time for an OL to mesh.

Some good players you have listed there silverbear. I expect at least 2 OL draft picks from the Cowboys.

Clove · 03-24-2006

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Originally Posted by silverbear

Got Mel Kiper's annual book, and Ourlads', going back to 1990... I stopped buying either in 2004, once I realized most of that info could be found online... so, I just find out what year the player joined the league, and look up his profile in both books...

What can you find on T.O.s 40 time?

silverbear · 03-24-2006

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Originally Posted by Cowboy_love_4ever

What can you find on T.O.s 40 time?

I'll look it up for you when I get home in the morning (I'm at work now)...

Kobal · 03-24-2006

Patriots | Team agrees to terms with S. Neal
Thu, 23 Mar 2006 22:13:27 -0800
Tom E. Curran, of the Providence Journal, reports sources said the New England Patriots have agreed to terms with one of their own free agents, OL Stephen Neal (Patriots), on an undisclosed contract

silverbear · 03-24-2006

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Originally Posted by Kobal

Patriots | Team agrees to terms with S. Neal
Thu, 23 Mar 2006 22:13:27 -0800
Tom E. Curran, of the Providence Journal, reports sources said the New England Patriots have agreed to terms with one of their own free agents, OL Stephen Neal (Patriots), on an undisclosed contract

Aw, dayum...

silverbear · 03-24-2006

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Originally Posted by silverbear

I'll look it up for you when I get home in the morning (I'm at work now)...

OK, I checked... Kiper lists Owens at 4.55, then goes on to say he ran a 4.63 at the combine... back then, they had a track that was notoriously slow, so it may be legit for Mel to knock a few hundredths off... Ourlads had him at 4.61...

I'd call him a 4.55 40, after reading all that...

DWAREZ · 03-24-2006

Pats resigned Neal, down goes another

vicjagger · 03-24-2006

Here's another O-linemen that appears to be moving...

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/fo...p-340853c.html

Mavs Man · 03-24-2006

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Originally Posted by silverbear

Bottom line, there are still a number of NICE offensive linemen out there, and I think the Boys ought to look at signing one more... they have to cap room to do so... then, they should still draft an offensive lineman on the first day of the draft... it's time, IMO, to radically overhaul the offensive line...

Sadly, this just illustrates the failure of our first day draft picks to develop into solid OL over the past several years (Rogers, Peterman, Johnson, Gurode, Page, etc.). Otherwise, this wouldn't be a problem area.

RealCowboyfan · 03-24-2006

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Originally Posted by silverbear

Even with the addition of Fabini and Kosier, even with the likelihood of bringing in a high draft pick this year, and even with the probable healthy return of Flozell Adams and Marco Rivera, I'm still uneasy about the line situation... I'd like to see one more top free agent brought in, and I believe the Boys have the cap room to get that done... failing that, I'd like to see a solid backup brought in... to that end, I'll propose a few players who fit both job descriptions...

Stephen Neal, OG, Pats... the best guard left on the board, a former wrestling champion who understands all about leverage... he could plug in to Larry Allen's old slot at LG, leaving Kosier free to back up at every position except center... he's 6-4, 306 pounds, will be 30 when the regular season starts... couldn't find a 40 time for him...

[View Full Quote]Damion McIntosh, OT, Dolphins... the 2nd best tackle left on the board, behind Jon Runyan, who's just too old for my taste... if the Boys added him, their top 3 tackles would be Flozell Adams, Jason Fabini and McIntosh, with Rob Petitti likely factoring into the equation... that would be a solid and deep group of tackles... McIntosh is 6-4, 325 pounds, will be 29 on opening day, runs the 40 in 5.2 seconds...

Kendyl Jacox, C/OG, Saints... the backup to LeCharles Bentley, he's not too shabby in his own right... he could certainly compete for the starting job at center in Dallas... he's 6-2, 325 pounds, will be 31 years old when the regular season rolls around, and runs the 40 in 5.3 seconds...

The Boys might also look at OT Matt Stinchcomb (Bucs) or OT Rex Tucker (Rams), but I'm not sure either player represents an upgrade...

For potential backups (who should be somewhat cheaper), we have:

Grey Ruegamer, C/OG, Packers... 6-4, 306 pounds... will be 30 at the start of the regular season... has started 16 of 76 games... runs a 5.25 second 40...

Jonathan Goodwin, C/OG, Panthers... 6-3, 316 pounds... will be 27 on opening day... has started 13 of 29 games... 5.1 second 40, which is terrific speed for an interior lineman... the Skins had him in for a visit this past Tuesday, but chose instead to sign Tyson Walter and Mike Pucillo (why, God only knows, though I suspect Goodwin's contract demands took them out of the picture...

At tackle, the Boys might also take a look at Chad Slaughter, who's simply huge (6-8, 340 pounds)... he runs a 5.35 second 40, not bad for a guy that size... has only started one game in his career, so you know he won't be looking for starter's money...

Bottom line, there are still a number of NICE offensive linemen out there, and I think the Boys ought to look at signing one more... they have to cap room to do so... then, they should still draft an offensive lineman on the first day of the draft... it's time, IMO, to radically overhaul the offensive line...

I agree with you fully...but I would like to sign Lavar Arrington first before we make any other moves...

Charles · 03-24-2006

Great post Silverbear