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04-25-2006
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O-Line heavy draft?
I can't even count the number of times in the last few years that I've been watching a game and said, until we get this O-Line fixed, we simply won't win! no matter who we have every where else. It just seems our O-Line has been holding us hostage.
That being said, maybe it's time to do to the O-Line what we did to the D-Line last year, and dig deep and come up heavy. If the best player available is at a couple positions including O-Line, we could make a serious investment, and solidify the O-line for now, and the future.
What if we traded down a little to add a first day pick (2/3) and did something like this?
pick one (trade down).. Eric Winston/Marcus Mcneil
pick two....David Joseph
Pick three..Charles Spencer
With the extra pick we could add the best DB available to address our other achilies heel, like Watkins/Griffin
I'll admit I would love to add a guy like Carpenter or Cromarte, but It just seems that if we had a dominating O-line that our Offense and Defense as it is could be dominant IMO, while the O-Line has just kept us from winning for to long.
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04-25-2006
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God know this is a good thing for us.......our weak spot1
Mr. Jones and CrazyCowboy--Training Camp 2004
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04-25-2006
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I would not mind seeing OT Jonathan Scott at our 2nd pick
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04-25-2006
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Originally Posted by Tristan
I can't even count the number of times in the last few years that I've been watching a game and said, until we get this O-Line fixed, we simply won't win! no matter who we have every where else. It just seems our O-Line has been holding us hostage.
That being said, maybe it's time to do to the O-Line what we did to the D-Line last year, and dig deep and come up heavy. If the best player available is at a couple positions including O-Line, we could make a serious investment, and solidify the O-line for now, and the future.
What if we traded down a little to add a first day pick (2/3) and did something like this?
pick one (trade down).. Eric Winston/Marcus Mcneil
pick two....David Joseph
Pick three..Charles Spencer
With the extra pick we could add the best DB available to address our other achilies heel, like Watkins/Griffin
[View Full Quote]I'll admit I would love to add a guy like Carpenter or Cromarte, but It just seems that if we had a dominating O-line that our Offense and Defense as it is could be dominant IMO, while the O-Line has just kept us from winning for to long.
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It will never happen because it isn't flashy enough. I like your thoughts on it though, and agree that the OLine play this next year will, IMO, be the determining factor as to whether the Cowboys can make it to the SB.
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04-25-2006
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Years Donated 2006, 2007, 2009
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Originally Posted by Tristan
It just seems our O-Line has been holding us hostage.
That being said, maybe it's time to do to the O-Line what we did to the D-Line last year, and dig deep and come up heavy. If the best player available is at a couple positions including O-Line, we could make a serious investment, and solidify the O-line for now, and the future.
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Hey, can we get that kid, Jacob Rogers, from SC? He has the size and has played in a pro style offense. The voices are saying that he is a sure thing.
What did I do with that medication?
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04-25-2006
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Originally Posted by Tristan
I can't even count the number of times in the last few years that I've been watching a game and said, until we get this O-Line fixed, we simply won't win! no matter who we have every where else. It just seems our O-Line has been holding us hostage.
That being said, maybe it's time to do to the O-Line what we did to the D-Line last year, and dig deep and come up heavy. If the best player available is at a couple positions including O-Line, we could make a serious investment, and solidify the O-line for now, and the future.
What if we traded down a little to add a first day pick (2/3) and did something like this?
pick one (trade down).. Eric Winston/Marcus Mcneil
pick two....David Joseph
Pick three..Charles Spencer
With the extra pick we could add the best DB available to address our other achilies heel, like Watkins/Griffin
[View Full Quote]I'll admit I would love to add a guy like Carpenter or Cromarte, but It just seems that if we had a dominating O-line that our Offense and Defense as it is could be dominant IMO, while the O-Line has just kept us from winning for to long.
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If you daft 3 OL which OL are you going to release? We have only so many spots for OL.
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04-25-2006
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Originally Posted by david_jackson
If you daft 3 OL which OL are you going to release? We have only so many spots for OL.
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That is a dilemma I'm more than willing to face, given the poor showing by the line of the last few years.
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04-25-2006
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We don't have room on the roster for three new OL guys. Probably one. We will only have roster room for 10 guys max (9 is even possible if we keep 2 kickers) on the OL and only 8 of those will dress.
OT
Adams
Fabini
Petitti
OG
Kozier
Rivera
C
Johnson
Gurode
Likely to be kept: Peterman, Columbo (or one of them)
That's nine. Ideally we snag Joseph or Spencer or maybe Colledge- guys that could compete for a starting job or at worst give us depth at both guard and tackle.
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04-25-2006
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#9
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Peterman and Columbo are quite possibly both busts. Only Bill knows. He was quoted once as learning from Laundry that if you don't see something within 3 years, cut ties, because the football life is too short.
If they cut both, then you have 7 and 3 draft picks that could all possibly become starters puts you where they should be. They can run short at another position than OL, like TE or FB if they need a place for the extra K.
Not saying they will, but saying that the possibility is still there because no one has been happy with the OLine for a few years. 2 of the three draft picks might be taking the place of Fabini and Rivera next year (due to age), and for Flozell in the next 3-4 years (due to age). I'm not sold on Kozier (yet), but they gave him too much of a bonus to cut this year.
I am of the opinion that 2 drafted OL would be perfect, but I can see where 3 might possibly make the team.
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04-25-2006
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Years Donated 2004, 2009, 2010
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Originally Posted by DLCassidy
We don't have room on the roster for three new OL guys. Probably one. We will only have roster room for 10 guys max (9 is even possible if we keep 2 kickers) on the OL and only 8 of those will dress.
OT
Adams
Fabini
Petitti
OG
Kozier
Rivera
C
Johnson
Gurode
Likely to be kept: Peterman, Columbo (or one of them)
That's nine. Ideally we snag Joseph or Spencer or maybe Colledge- guys that could compete for a starting job or at worst give us depth at both guard and tackle.
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I've said it in another post, but I'll say it again . . . . I wish we had more concrete information on Colombo's health - other than he's playing racquetball.
Maybe letting Tucker go was a sign of Colombo's knee improving?
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04-25-2006
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I think that letting Tucker go was BP figuring that Columbo was going to be able to compete for a roster slot. That would give us 4 tackles and BP ain't going to keep any more. Now we really only have 3 guards since Gurode is penciled in as either competing for center or the backup. Considering Peterman is a real quesion mark about even making the roster, I think an OG is a given in this draft. that would still only give us 4- which is the limit I think for BP. Now on game days one tackle and one guard will be left inactive. Since Kosier can play 4 positions and Gurode can play both guard and center they are probably there along with Adams, Fabini, RIvera and Johnson. That is if Kosier is not the starter. If he is, then probably they have iether Petitti or Columbo as the backup tackle. Bp would LOVE to only have to dress 7 O linemen- that would allow him to add DL and LB to the active list.
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04-25-2006
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Originally Posted by Woods
I've said it in another post, but I'll say it again . . . . I wish we had more concrete information on Colombo's health - other than he's playing racquetball.
Maybe letting Tucker go was a sign of Colombo's knee improving?
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More likely it's evidence somebody watched the game film from the 2nd skins game before burning it.
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04-25-2006
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The Grand Poobah
Years Donated 2005, 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009
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Originally Posted by DLCassidy
More likely it's evidence somebody watched the game film from the 2nd skins game before burning it.
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I think that's a very good assumption. 
Cowboy Fan since 1960.......You young-uns stay outta my yard.
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04-25-2006
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#14
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Formerly joshjwc9
Joined: | Apr 2004 |
Location: | Palm Harbor, FL |
Posts: | 1,499 |
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Originally Posted by fortdick
Hey, can we get that kid, Jacob Rogers, from SC? He has the size and has played in a pro style offense. The voices are saying that he is a sure thing.
What did I do with that medication?
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Only posters here thought it was a sure thing. Rogers had always been injured and we knew it when we drafted him. Shoulder injuries to Olineman spells trouble like in Tony Boselli's case.
I really would like to see us draft two Olineman on the first day but at least I know we will get one. Now a draft with McNeil, Joseph and Spencer/FS/OLB and I will be crying tears of joy. Nothing wrong with drafting Olineman in my book.
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04-25-2006
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#15
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Junior Member
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doesnt Mcneil have some back problems?
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