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04-27-2006
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K9NME
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Originally Posted by InmanRoshi
That rookie going through growing pains and learning the job was still the best pure pass rusher we've seen in a Cowboy uniform in 10 years.
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No **** it was obvious. Just look at all the attention he was getting, if Ellis or anyone could have stepped up our defense would have been considerably better in generating pressure.
“Hit them in the mouth, bloody their nose, throw them to the ground and step on their throat!”--Brooking, Pregame Huddle 2009
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04-27-2006
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Original Zone Member
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A pick of Wimbley or Lawson will turn Roy and company into the best pass coverage secondary in the NFL.
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04-27-2006
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#18
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Senior Member
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Originally Posted by InmanRoshi
Bob Sturm was just on KTCK, and he said he talked to a Cowboys Scout and he said Parcells wants an up the field pass rusher from the LB spot. He doesn’t want a “complement” to Ware, he wants as many Demarcus Wares as he can get his hands on. He wants to relentlessly attack opposing QB’s.
He went on to say that Carpenter doesn't really seem to be that type in his opinion. He gets the feeling they like Lawson alot.
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Yes....Lawson be there!
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04-27-2006
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Senior Member
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Originally Posted by adbutcher
No **** it was obvious. Just look at all the attention he was getting, if Ellis or anyone could have stepped up our defense would have been considerably better in generating pressure.
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exactly, it got to a point last year some plays were schemed to take Ware out of the play...with another Ware type player on the other side, its pick your poison.
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04-27-2006
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Originally Posted by dmq
With Zimmer's wuss defense? 
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hmm lets see we ranked 11th in sacks. top 10 defense and ranked 10th or higher in many categories, that with three rookies starting, 3 injured starters and a new defense.
I beg to defer. and we ranked right behind washington in many of those categories, and they have the genius called Williams!!
so if not zimmer, then whom?
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04-27-2006
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Zimmer with a bogus defense which lacked a true pass rusher, and had only 1 legitamte corner ( a rookie at that), managed to squeek out a #1 D. Now I know it probably wasn't the best defense in the league, being ranked #1 still says something about it. The guy with the most yards rushing might not be THE best running back in the league, but you can't disregard the numbers entirely. Let's see what Zimmer does with the defense next year.
But I know how it is around here, if the D plays well, if we are aggressive, it was Parcells, but if we ever **** up, it was Zimmer. You can't have it both ways. Parcells knows defense, and the fact that he retained Zimmer, and still has kept him around speaks a great deal about ZImmer, I think.
See Dis! I got boalls! Fahgettaboutit!
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04-27-2006
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Originally Posted by Billy Bullocks
Zimmer with a bogus defense which lacked a true pass rusher, and had only 1 legitamte corner ( a rookie at that), managed to squeek out a #1 D. Now I know it probably wasn't the best defense in the league, being ranked #1 still says something about it. The guy with the most yards rushing might not be THE best running back in the league, but you can't disregard the numbers entirely. Let's see what Zimmer does with the defense next year.
But I know how it is around here, if the D plays well, if we are aggressive, it was Parcells, but if we ever **** up, it was Zimmer. You can't have it both ways. Parcells knows defense, and the fact that he retained Zimmer, and still has kept him around speaks a great deal about ZImmer, I think.
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Try not to make so much sense in the future, OK?
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04-27-2006
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#23
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Senior Member
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Originally Posted by CIWhitefish
Try not to make so much sense in the future, OK?
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Ill do my best LOL
See Dis! I got boalls! Fahgettaboutit!
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04-27-2006
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Former NFL Towel Boy John Clayton
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Originally Posted by CowboysFaninDC
hmm lets see we ranked 11th in sacks. top 10 defense and ranked 10th or higher in many categories, that with three rookies starting, 3 injured starters and a new defense.
I beg to defer. and we ranked right behind washington in many of those categories, and they have the genius called Williams!!
so if not zimmer, then whom?
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I am only kidding, I like Zimmer.
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04-27-2006
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#25
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Originally Posted by dmq
I am only kidding, I like Zimmer.
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I think Im going to hotkey my response about Zimmer. Im sure I'll need it again.
See Dis! I got boalls! Fahgettaboutit!
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04-27-2006
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Good stuff Inman. Very good, insightful information!
I still say if Lawson or Wimbley aren't available a good pick in the 2nd or 3rd round would be [FONT="Arial Black"]Parys Haralson [/FONT]out of Tennessee. He would make a great, big, physical attacking LBer. I've seen him play for 4 years and he is an animal!! Check out his scouting report...
[FONT="System"]HERE HE IS GETTING AFTER NEXT YEAR'S #1 PICK!![/FONT]
SCOUTING REPORT:
Parys Haralson
Height: 6-0
Weight: 248
40 Speed: 4.80 E
Position: Defensive End
College: Tennessee
Final Grade: J 6.2 Rush-LB
GM JR Scouting LLC
SUMMARY
Haralson is a very good athlete who can defeat offensive tackle pass blocks consistently with his variety of pass-rush moves, closes quickly on the quarterback and makes hard hits on the quarterback. He is a very active and competitive defensive end who consistently goes all out on every snap and has the playing speed to chase down running plays in pursuit. Despite his lack of size, he is stronger than expected and if he bulks up by adding 10-15 additional pounds, he will be very strong at the point of attack. Overall, Haralson is no doubt going to need to bulk up and become more consistent in his get-off at the snap, but weight can be added and he will become a good all-around defensive end for a team that plays a 4-3 defense. As a rookie, he will be a backup who will contribute mostly as a pass rusher and on special teams, but in his second or third season, he will become a good starting defensive end. [FONT="Arial Black"]Additionally, if Haralson goes to a team that plays the 3-4 defense, he will make an immediate impact rushing the quarterback and will become a dangerous starting rush linebacker within a season. [/FONT]
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04-27-2006
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#27
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Run-loving Dino
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Originally Posted by InmanRoshi
He doesn’t want a “complement” to Ware, he wants as many Demarcus Wares as he can get his hands on.
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Makes total sense to me... A 6-4, 260lb guy who can beat tackles and chase down running backs? I'd take four of those for my 34 LBs.
I get what you're saying, but the question is, is there another Ware in this draft... Or if Lawson is that guy, will he be available when we pick. I doubt it.
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04-27-2006
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Surrealist
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Some people have been saying this for awhile now, but still some seem to think we need a 4-3 SLB at our 3-4 LOLB position.
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04-27-2006
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K9NME
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Originally Posted by Chocolate Lab
Makes total sense to me... A 6-4, 260lb guy who can beat tackles and chase down running backs? I'd take four of those for my 34 LBs.
I get what you're saying, but the question is, is there another Ware in this draft... Or if Lawson is that guy, will he be available when we pick. I doubt it.
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Don't jinx us!
“Hit them in the mouth, bloody their nose, throw them to the ground and step on their throat!”--Brooking, Pregame Huddle 2009
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04-27-2006
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#30
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Senior Member
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Originally Posted by InmanRoshi
Parcells said over and over again in press conferences that the team doesn't put consistant enough pressure on the QB to be called a great defense. A lot of fans still cling to 4-3 concepts, and they don't apply. If he really wanted a "complement" to Ware, wouldn't they have put more effort into resigning Fujita?
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Why would you re-sign a guy who bit on any movement, ran himself out of the play, could not fend off the blockers after putting himself in that hole?
That's not a complement, that's an insult.
The argument isn't which can rush the passer better, it is which is more ready to step in now. We are in win it now mode, and Carpenter is the more complete LB from day one.
Lawson has more upside, but greater bust potential too.
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