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04-28-2006
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Originally Posted by Da Hammer
No against any team because a great receiver like Johnson or Moulds only need a extra second or 2 to get open when they are initially covered and Young will be able to with his mobility get that extra time
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USC did play horrendously on defense in that game.
Will he be a good NFL QB? Time will tell, however he wont come in like Big Ben and be great early.
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04-28-2006
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#32
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The Great Communicator
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Originally Posted by HeavyHitta31
They tried, no one offered
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Where did you get this? Got a link?
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04-28-2006
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#33
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They(Houston) should just re-draft Hakeem Olajuwan. Leave MJ and Bowie on the board again.
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04-28-2006
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#34
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Originally Posted by JackMagist
Where did you get this? Got a link?
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It was reported by John Clayton on the draft special and PFT weeks ago. Keep up
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04-28-2006
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The Natural
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Originally Posted by HeavyHitta31
USC did play horrendously on defense in that game.
Will he be a good NFL QB? Time will tell, however he wont come in like Big Ben and be great early.
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I do agree that it will probably take a year or 2 for Vince to be ready to play but in regards to Big Ben, he was very lucky to come into a situation where he had a fantastic run game and only had to pass 12-18 times a game. Pitt made it very easy for him and most rookie QBs aren't so lucky so it takes them much longer to adjust to the NFL
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04-28-2006
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#36
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K9NME
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Originally Posted by gbrittain
I crack up everytime I hear about how Vince Young will not be able to run away from people like he did in college...well somewhat true, but irrelevant.
Bottom line to be an NFL QB you have to be able to read defenses and pass really well. Now lets make the assumption that Vince makes that transition just fine.
Now unless it is 3rd and 20 or third and 30, Vince Young will be able to pick the D apart with his arm, move around behind the line of scrimmage buying time and hit someone wide open downfield or take off and get 5-10 yards easily for the first down.
It is NOT about running for 100 yards in a game, it is about buying time with your mobility or taking off on third down to get the nail in the coffin first down.
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Where some people come up with this stuff is amazing.
Great post GB!
“Hit them in the mouth, bloody their nose, throw them to the ground and step on their throat!”--Brooking, Pregame Huddle 2009
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04-28-2006
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#37
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Originally Posted by HeavyHitta31
I agree, thus Vince Young will have a very hard time playing QB in the NFL, at least for the first few years.
He has less accuracy than both McNabb and Culpepper did, and even Vick had comprable accuracy. He has to work on his mechanics.
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Time will tell. I am not sold one way or the other, but I can see how a team would take a chance on him.
If he busts, a bust is a bust is a bust. It happens. As a matter of fact happens every year in the top 10 multiple times.
If Vince Young hits then watch out, the upside on him is IMO bigger than that of any player in this draft.
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04-28-2006
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#38
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The Great Communicator
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Originally Posted by HeavyHitta31
It was reported by John Clayton on the draft special and PFT weeks ago. Keep up
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John  Clayton
Ok now I'm convinced 
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04-28-2006
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#39
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Originally Posted by EveryoneElse
They(Houston) should just re-draft Hakeem Olajuwan. Leave MJ and Bowie on the board again.
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The question is who will the Texans draft with the first pick of the draft next year? They gave away picks to draft for 3-4 last year, hire Kubiak to fix the offense and then change to 4-3 and draft a defensive end with the first pick. Hard to believe the Texans could figure out the only way to get Kubiak boo'ed in his first game and do it.
Maybe they will trade Mario to the Jets and then take DBrickshaw Ferguson which is who they should pick if not Bush/Young.
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04-28-2006
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#40
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Originally Posted by JackMagist
John  Clayton
Ok now I'm convinced 
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Not to mention the Houston Chronicle bashing them for trying to trade it 
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04-28-2006
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THE BIG DOG
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Originally Posted by JackMagist
John  Clayton
Ok now I'm convinced 
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Hey don't laugh he isn't the worst........oh wait.......maybe he is.
This is a team who is battling several major injuries to
key players including Pro Bowl talents like Lee, Austin, Jenkins, Murray,
Carter and Ratliff. Other key starters missing include Costa, Smith, Church and
Coleman. That is 11 key players - that's half the starting lineup. Yet we still went 8-8.
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04-28-2006
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#42
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Banned
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Originally Posted by big dog cowboy
Hey don't laugh he isn't the worst........oh wait.......maybe he is.
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Two words:
Trev Alberts
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04-28-2006
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#43
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[quote=HeavyHitta31]I agree, thus Vince Young will have a very hard time playing QB in the NFL, at least for the first few years.
He has less accuracy than both McNabb and Culpepper did, and even Vick had comprable accuracy. He has to work on his mechanics.
I'll disagree on this one. His mechanics aren't that bad or he would not have lead the nation in passing effeciency. He is without a doubt a better talent than McChunky or Culpantless were coming out of college.
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04-28-2006
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#44
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Surrealist
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Newsflash: Vince Young is an accurate passer.
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04-28-2006
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#45
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[quote=hendog]
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Originally Posted by HeavyHitta31
I agree, thus Vince Young will have a very hard time playing QB in the NFL, at least for the first few years.
He has less accuracy than both McNabb and Culpepper did, and even Vick had comprable accuracy. He has to work on his mechanics.
I'll disagree on this one. His mechanics aren't that bad or he would not have lead the nation in passing effeciency. He is without a doubt a better talent than McChunky or Culpantless were coming out of college.
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He led the nation is passing efficiency because something like 64% of his passes were to the TE and RBs
Texas ran an offense that allowed him to be successful using his athletic ability, not his passing ability. He threw about 2 passes of 25 yards or more per game this season, not very many
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