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Eddie · 04-30-2006

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Originally Posted by MichaelWinicki

Hey, do I think Fabinin is all-world?

Nah.

But he's probably going to be the best RT we've had there in many season-- think about that.

All I know is we found Erik Williams in the 4th round. At least we could try again.

Taking a punt returner in the 4th kills me!!!

johnnyd · 04-30-2006

no i would like read a thread without you complaining all the time. and who cares what jet fans have to say? i work with plenty of them also and i laugh at them every day . that's why it hurts to take their scraps .. i lose my leverage ..

zrinkill · 04-30-2006

Jet fans are great talent evaluators ......

Eddie · 04-30-2006

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Originally Posted by johnnyd

no i would like read a thread without you complaining all the time. and who cares what jet fans have to say? i work with plenty of them also and i laugh at them every day . that's why it hurts to take their scraps .. i lose my leverage ..

Unfortunately, if Jet fans are laughing at us, then we have a problem.

It's like Lion fans laughing at us ... argh!!! They actually are as well.

Pretty sad if you ask me.

Let's draft some more punt returners.

Eddie · 04-30-2006

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Originally Posted by zrinkill

Jet fans are great talent evaluators ......

You're right ... and when we're taking their garbage, then we have a problem.

Unfortunately, BP is not the magician he led us to believe ... and he cannot turn another man's scraps into a feast.

**MichaelWinicki** · 04-30-2006

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Originally Posted by Eddie

All I know is we found Erik Williams in the 4th round. At least we could try again.

Taking a punt returner in the 4th kills me!!!

Actually Erik Williams was a 3rd rounder.

I understand your point.

NickZepp · 04-30-2006

Randal El is a good comparason. Maybe not as fast but just as quick. And he is more experienced as a reciever. We have 3 solid WRs that can all go deep. He's a guy who can make plays on short passes that will be opened. Or he can get reverses and make plays. But he'll make his biggest impact in the return game.

J-DOG · 04-30-2006

Skyler Green reminds me of when Jimmy Johnson drafted Kevin Williams from Miami in the 90's.
They have similar skill sets and both were dynamic punt returners.

AsthmaField · 04-30-2006

Fabini played LT for the Jets... I think he's much better at RT, and so will be a better player for us.

Personally, I think Green is a heck of a pick. He could turn out to be a difference maker at PR. Frankly, I'm glad to come out of the second day with a player that is so exciting.

What's gotten into you Eddie? You're normally no so universally negative.

This is a heck of a draft.

zrinkill · 04-30-2006

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Originally Posted by AsthmaField

What's gotten into you Eddie? You're normally no so universally negative.
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T.O.

LaTunaNostra · 04-30-2006

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Originally Posted by Eddie

Mike, don't count on Fabini. I work with tons of Jets fans and they're laughing at us. The word from them is, "You guys are happy now, but wait until he has 4 false starts in the first quarter of the first game ..."

Eddie, Fabini was no Orlando Pace. But he was more than servicable...he was not, over his career, the penalty machine your buddies are making him out to be.

He never excelled with terrific agility or enormous strength, but he held his own. Luckily, a player like Fabini doesn't lose it overnight, because his game was built on tenacity and common sense. At this stage of his career, he is what every team needs..a reliable swing tackle.

I sure understand your fears, and even share them. All the impact in the world won't matter if the line is a sieve again...if 'immobile' Bledsoe can't be bought time, and JJ/Marion sans holes. Even TO is not going to make a difference if dumb penalties and inconsistency once again define the line play. In fact, there is a fairly substantial blocking game downgrade in TO over Key, and any 2nd te over Dan.

I also think our draft MIGHT be a bit affected by recently being bitten by those 'finesse' tackle and brute-but-no-technique guard picks. Just as Millen lacked the stones to take Leinart, the Jacobs, and to some extent Peterman pick could be scare-off factors.

But even more deadly than being scared off is a mass attack of over-reaching.

As long as we stay consistent to what reasonably looks like adherence to a value board, I suppose the FO merits the benefit of the doubt..that they felt the line could best be upgraded this year via free agency.

Frankly, the biggest line issue we have, imo, may be the coaching of it. I am more worried about Sparano's fair haired status with Bill and ability to develop players than whether we stack the draft with lineman. Parcells, btw, has saturated drafts in the past with one position...could be the FO just didn't see the value in this particular draft class.

Anyway, Flo coming back, Rivera a full year off his back injury, a more seasoned Al/Dre/Rob, and the presence of "False Start"

is at least minor consolation.

Eddie · 04-30-2006

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Originally Posted by AsthmaField

Fabini played LT for the Jets... I think he's much better at RT, and so will be a better player for us.

Personally, I think Green is a heck of a pick. He could turn out to be a difference maker at PR. Frankly, I'm glad to come out of the second day with a player that is so exciting.

What's gotten into you Eddie? You're normally no so universally negative.

This is a heck of a draft.

Heck, I'll take the draft ... I just don't like the Green pick. We could use 7th rounders on ST and punt returners.

Maybe I envisioned a draft of the trenches ... big linemen filling up the boat. OT, OG, NT. Speedy and big WR to take over Terry's spot in a year. So far ... nada.

Disappointed.

neosapien23 · 04-30-2006

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Originally Posted by Eddie

Heck, I'll take the draft ... I just don't like the Green pick. We could use 7th rounders on ST and punt returners.

Maybe I envisioned a draft of the trenches ... big linemen filling up the boat. OT, OG, NT. Speedy and big WR to take over Terry's spot in a year. So far ... nada.

Disappointed.

Really. I don't like the Hatcher pick.

Eddie · 04-30-2006

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Originally Posted by LaTunaNostra

Anyway, Flo coming back, Rivera a full year off his back injury, a more seasoned Al/Dre/Rob, and the presence of "False Start"

is at least minor consolation.

LTN, let's hope you're right. I think the OT's should be secure, but I have bad visions and nightmares of 2005 ... 7-3, on the brink of a playoff birth, only to see our season disappear with the injury of one single player along the OL.

LaTunaNostra · 04-30-2006

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Originally Posted by Eddie

LTN, let's hope you're right. I think the OT's should be secure, but I have bad visions and nightmares of 2005 ... 7-3, on the brink of a playoff birth, only to see our season disappear with the injury of one single player along the OL.

I know. I know Eddie. I have nightmares too.

And I admit I am enjoying your annual draft weekend takes.