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Consider Yourself Sucked
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Vela: The Tuna Top 40
The Tuna Top 40
By Rafael Vela
Let’s begin the countdown…
Bill Parcells uses his early camp to locate his best 40 players, 20 on offense and 20 on defense. He adds his specialists, usually a kicker, punter and snapper and then apportions his last 10 spots for special teams aces, developing young players or both.
The top 40 system makes sense when you consider teams can only dress 45 players on game days plus a third QB. With this template in mind, let’s see if we can whittle the team down to the top 44 or 45 and venture some guesses on the final ten. Remember, these are the guys you would dress if this Saturday’s game was for keeps.
Top 20 offense- QBs (2) — Drew Bledsoe and Tony Romo;
- RBs (2) — Julius Jones and Marion Barber;
- TEs/F-backs (4) — Jason Witten, Anthony Fasano, Ryan Hannam, Lousaka Polite;
- WRs (4) — Terrell Owens, Terry Glenn, Patrick Crayton, one of Terrance Copper, Jamaica Rector or Sam Hurd;
- OTs (3) — Flozell Adams, Rob Petitti, Marc Columbo or Jason Fabini;
- Cs (2) — Andre Gurode, Al Johnson;
- Gs (3) — Kyle Kosier, Marco Rivera, Corey Proctor;
That’s 20 players. Eighteen are firm. The only spots in that top 20 up for grabs, in my opinion, are the backup RT, where Colombo and Fabini are duking it out and the fourth receiver spot. You might also carry a third running back, but he would have to show skills as a kick returner to dress on game day.
Top 20 Defense- DE (4) — Marcus Spears, Jay Ratliff, Chris Canty and Jason Hatcher;
- NT (2) — Jason Ferguson and perhaps Thomas Johnson or Montavious Stanley;
- OLB (4) — Greg Ellis, Al Singleton, Demarcus Ware, Kevin Burnett;
- ILB (4) — Bradie James, Akin Ayodele, Bobby Carpenter, Rocky Boiman;
- CB (4) — Terence Newman, Anthony Henry, Aaron Glenn, Jacques Reeves;
- S (2) — Roy Williams, Keith Davis;
I’m thin at safety. I may add Willie Pile here for depth and move Boiman to my specialist list.
Backup nose tackle is by far the most uncertain position. Thomas Johnson shows flashes but plays better as a rusher than a run plugger. Stanley looks lost; he was run over in the morning drills and seems the draftee most likely to wind up on the practice squad. If Johnson doesn’t cut it, you’ll see Dallas scanning the waiver wires for a backup NT or perhaps trying to swap a surplus LB to get one.
If I’m greedy and give the defense the third safety, I’m up to 41. I’ve got my kicker, snapper, punter and Drew Henson as my emergency QB. Voila! That’s 45. Your third QB doesn’t count against your offical 45, so you’ve still got a spot open. Do you keep a kickoff specialist? Mike Vanderjagt has yet to kick off during a camp drill.
And who will the last eight be? - Some rookies are easy — Pat McQuistan, Pat Watkins and Skyler Green make the cut. That’s 48.
- Dallas will keep a third RB, either Tyson Thompson or Keylon Kincade. Special teams skills will tell. That’s 49;
- Dallas will likely keep a fourth TE, either Tony Curtis or Sean Ryan. That’s 50;
- Dallas might keep another corner. Nate Jones, IMO, is the best option. That’s 51;
The last two are tricky. If Dallas keeps a second kicker, they’ve got one spot let. Does a special teams/nickel LB like Ryan Fowler stick? Is this player on another NFL team’s roster at the moment?
Lots of questions, and we haven’t factored injuries into the equation. In any case, it appears there are only three spots up for grabs in the top 40. Nine days into camp, that’s amazing.
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08-08-2006
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Old Fashioned
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dont forget special teams, thats 4 players there.
fg kicker, mike v
long snapper, forgot his name
KO specialist, dunno if mike v can do this.
punter, Mcbriar
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08-08-2006
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No Shanle or either of the Colemans. Two of those three make the team.
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08-08-2006
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Watkins makes the top 40. Even if he doesn't start he's going to play quite a bit.
I'm also not sure Columbo is battling to be a backup.
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08-08-2006
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Where is Shanle ? I thought he was the 2nd coming ? And if he does take a roster spot is he so big he takes 2 spots ?!
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08-08-2006
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What's it going to be then, eh?
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Backup nose tackle is by far the most uncertain position. Thomas Johnson shows flashes but plays better as a rusher than a run plugger. Stanley looks lost; he was run over in the morning drills and seems the draftee most likely to wind up on the practice squad. If Johnson doesn’t cut it, you’ll see Dallas scanning the waiver wires for a backup NT or perhaps trying to swap a surplus LB to get one.
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This is a very good observation. Stanley apparently is getting murdered against the run. I believe we play him quite a bit in preseason to evaluate him. And that was also very good about Johnson, I never saw him as a true NT-type. He is more like Glover than anything else, a much better penetrator than lane clogger.
We do have a surplus at LBer, provided the thumb injury for Boiman doesn't become something that keeps him from making it. We could move Fowler or Shanle for some aid at the nose, because if Stanley doesn't make it, we will need it. Ferguson just cannot be depended on to go every down, all season.
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08-08-2006
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Originally Posted by Alexander
This is a very good observation. Stanley apparently is getting murdered against the run. I believe we play him quite a bit in preseason to evaluate him. And that was also very good about Johnson, I never saw him as a true NT-type. He is more like Glover than anything else, a much better penetrator than lane clogger.
We do have a surplus at LBer, provided the thumb injury for Boiman doesn't become something that keeps him from making it. We could move Fowler or Shanle for some aid at the nose, because if Stanley doesn't make it, we will need it. Ferguson just cannot be depended on to go every down, all season.
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that's why we may keep both of the young NTs
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08-08-2006
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What's it going to be then, eh?
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Originally Posted by summerisfunner
that's why we may keep both of the young NTs
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I think Johnson makes the team. If Stanley doesn't do better, why keep him on the roster? Get someone else who can function against the run, unless this Taulealea fellow is an answer. I have actually heard more in the reports about him than Stanley.
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08-08-2006
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Originally Posted by Alexander
I think Johnson makes the team. If Stanley doesn't do better, why keep him on the roster? Get someone else who can function against the run, unless this Taulealea fellow is an answer. I have actually heard more in the reports about him than Stanley.
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I wish Parcells would get his Jersey boys, come break Stanley's legs, so we could stash him on IR...
btw, isn't it amazing how quick people were to write off Pepper?
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08-08-2006
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Originally Posted by PullMyFinger
dont forget special teams, thats 4 players there.
fg kicker, mike v
long snapper, forgot his name
KO specialist, dunno if mike v can do this.
punter, Mcbriar
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he didn't
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I’ve got my kicker, snapper, punter and Drew Henson as my emergency QB. Voila! That’s 45
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"I could've done a $2 billion takeover (in another industry) with the capital I put in the Dallas Cowboys," he says. "I really could see (myself as) the idiot who had something real good, who blew it all to coach the Cowboys. I just knew that was going to be my legacy." Jerry Jones 9/14/2012
http://www.usatoday.com/sports/nfl/c...ore/57780004/1
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08-08-2006
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dont think Corey Proctor is a lock to make the roster. Gurode fills in at Guard. Neither is Hannam, with the emergence of Tony Curtis.
"I could've done a $2 billion takeover (in another industry) with the capital I put in the Dallas Cowboys," he says. "I really could see (myself as) the idiot who had something real good, who blew it all to coach the Cowboys. I just knew that was going to be my legacy." Jerry Jones 9/14/2012
http://www.usatoday.com/sports/nfl/c...ore/57780004/1
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08-08-2006
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What's it going to be then, eh?
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Originally Posted by silver
dont think Corey Proctor is a lock to make the roster. Gurode fills in at Guard.
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So we go with the starters and our potential starting center as a backup? I don't know about that. I think if Proctor makes it, it is by default. We will probably be looking for someone better at the final cuts regardless. You have to think we will keep at least three guards, one of which could backup the starters.
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Neither is Hannam, with the emergence of Tony Curtis.
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If Curtis can play well in the exhibitions, that will be the true test. Hannam is more experienced. He can also can play special teams fairly well, which is another built-in advantage.
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08-08-2006
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Originally Posted by silver
dont think Corey Proctor is a lock to make the roster. Gurode fills in at Guard.
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It's either Procter or Peterman and right now I think Procter is clearly in the lead from what we're reading. You don't go with 3 guards, particularly if Gurode ends up starting.
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08-08-2006
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Insulin Beware
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Originally Posted by Alexander
I think Johnson makes the team. If Stanley doesn't do better, why keep him on the roster? Get someone else who can function against the run, unless this Taulealea fellow is an answer. I have actually heard more in the reports about him than Stanley.
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I understand the financial standpoint of getting rid of Glover, but I don't think you make yourself significantly weaker at a position to save scratch, especially when you can afford it.
I know he wasn't perfect for the job, but he would still provide a fantastic presence in the middle.
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08-08-2006
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Depending on Boimans thumb, he could go on the PUP list for 6 weeks I believe - that would help save one roster spot. By week 6 someone is bound to be injured for him to fill the spot with.
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