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09-11-2006
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You may think I'm kidding, but...
I would be very much in favor in bringing Billy Cundiff back. I know that he cost us last season, but let's be fair. He tore a hamstring in training camp, and then came back (as you would expect) really rusty. Why no one remembers that he was a pretty darned good kicker for us the few years before last season, I don't understand. I didn't get the reason for cutting him last year, other than frustration, and I don't get why we wouldn't bring him in now.
Suisham, while an outstanding kickoff man, is not a good field-goal kicker at all. And Vanderjagt, well, everyone knows about Vanderjagt. Cundiff was pretty good at kicking off (consistently inside the five), and was a 78% field-goal kicker. I remember articles by Spagnola mentioning that Billy didn't have to improve much to meet Parcells' 80% standard for kickers. And then, the injury in training camp happened & the rest is history.
I know that Cundiff lost the competition in Green Bay. But you never know what's involved in that. All I know is what I've seen. And from what I've seen, for three years or so, was that Billy Cundiff was a pretty good kicker for us. I mean, remember the overtime Giants game in Parcells' first year? He tied a record with 5 or 6 field-goals that night, including one really clutch kick from about 55+ yards to send us to overtime (where we eventually won).
I don't know. I have absolutely no good feelings about Vandejagt at all. None. And I didn't even when we signed him. Regardless his records, he was my very last choice for a free agent kicker. And now, we're reaping what we sewed; losing a player or two with some potential (Pettiti, "Pepper" Johnson) and still have no answer at kicker.
The fact that it costs us someone else's valuable spot on gameday, as well, frustrates me to no end. It's either that we choose a guy who gives us the best field-position, but can't reliably put 3 points on the board --or-- we select a guy who might have a better chance at the 3 points, but can't kick off past the 12. It seriously svcks.
And so, my solution?
We bring back the guy that everyone... in my mind, prematurely... ran off, is still available, is familiar with the Dallas scene and HAS been a pretty good kicker for us until an injury derailed a single season.
Parcells acted too quickly dismissing Billy Cundiff. It was rash. So was signing Vanderjagt.
Both of those mistakes could be rectified now, with one fell swoop...
Peace and Love
- PoetTree -
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09-11-2006
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I'm don't think there's much dropoff from Cundiff to Suisham. Keep in mind he's a 75% career field goal kicker in a freaking dome! It's Vandy or bust. 
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09-11-2006
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Right Kind of Guy
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Oh lord, I just want to throw up.
I hate freaking kickers.
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09-11-2006
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No ... just no.
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09-11-2006
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In Tebow I Trust
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I dont think you are kidding, I think you are drunk
"We believe, we believe in each other that we can do it."~~Tony Romo
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09-11-2006
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#6
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kickers costing seasons,,, i want to throw up too billy cundiff you suck $$$
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09-11-2006
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THE BIG DOG
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If we could bring Hoffman back this idea would only sound half crazy.
This is a team who is battling several major injuries to
key players including Pro Bowl talents like Lee, Austin, Jenkins, Murray,
Carter and Ratliff. Other key starters missing include Costa, Smith, Church and
Coleman. That is 11 key players - that's half the starting lineup. Yet we still went 8-8.
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09-11-2006
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Run-loving Dino
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I've seen it all now....
Ivy League
Jason Garrett offense rank minus Tony Sparano: 18, 14, 7, 15, 15
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09-11-2006
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Senior Member
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09-11-2006
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Originally Posted by Big Dakota
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I see stupid people, I see them all the time, they don't even know their stupid.........
"Since I was a kid, all I ever wanted to be was a Cowboy" - Morgan Freeman from An Unfinished Life
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09-11-2006
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#11
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Bring him back to kick Vandy in the crotch
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09-11-2006
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#12
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If we Were gonna bring some one back I would say bring back Chris Boniol
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09-11-2006
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god i wish we would have signed vinietari instead!
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09-11-2006
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09-12-2006
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#15
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Stay Thirsty, My Friends
Joined: | Feb 2006 |
Location: | El Paso, Texas |
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Originally Posted by PoetTree
I would be very much in favor in bringing Billy Cundiff back. I know that he cost us last season, but let's be fair. He tore a hamstring in training camp, and then came back (as you would expect) really rusty. Why no one remembers that he was a pretty darned good kicker for us the few years before last season, I don't understand. I didn't get the reason for cutting him last year, other than frustration, and I don't get why we wouldn't bring him in now.
Suisham, while an outstanding kickoff man, is not a good field-goal kicker at all. And Vanderjagt, well, everyone knows about Vanderjagt. Cundiff was pretty good at kicking off (consistently inside the five), and was a 78% field-goal kicker. I remember articles by Spagnola mentioning that Billy didn't have to improve much to meet Parcells' 80% standard for kickers. And then, the injury in training camp happened & the rest is history.
[View Full Quote]I know that Cundiff lost the competition in Green Bay. But you never know what's involved in that. All I know is what I've seen. And from what I've seen, for three years or so, was that Billy Cundiff was a pretty good kicker for us. I mean, remember the overtime Giants game in Parcells' first year? He tied a record with 5 or 6 field-goals that night, including one really clutch kick from about 55+ yards to send us to overtime (where we eventually won).
I don't know. I have absolutely no good feelings about Vandejagt at all. None. And I didn't even when we signed him. Regardless his records, he was my very last choice for a free agent kicker. And now, we're reaping what we sewed; losing a player or two with some potential (Pettiti, "Pepper" Johnson) and still have no answer at kicker.
The fact that it costs us someone else's valuable spot on gameday, as well, frustrates me to no end. It's either that we choose a guy who gives us the best field-position, but can't reliably put 3 points on the board --or-- we select a guy who might have a better chance at the 3 points, but can't kick off past the 12. It seriously svcks.
And so, my solution?
We bring back the guy that everyone... in my mind, prematurely... ran off, is still available, is familiar with the Dallas scene and HAS been a pretty good kicker for us until an injury derailed a single season.
Parcells acted too quickly dismissing Billy Cundiff. It was rash. So was signing Vanderjagt.
Both of those mistakes could be rectified now, with one fell swoop...

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I actually agree with you. I had high hopes for Cundiff.
It'd be better than the current situation of Vanderjerk.

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